The 2017 UK General Election Thread - Voting open today from 7am - 10pm

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Who will you be voting for?

Conservatives
14
11%
Labour
64
50%
UK Independence Party
0
No votes
Liberal Democrats (inc. Alliance)
33
26%
Scottish Nationalists
9
7%
Green Party (inc. Scotland, Northern Ireland)
6
5%
Democratic Unionists
0
No votes
Sinn Féin
0
No votes
Plaid Cymru
0
No votes
Ulster Unionists
0
No votes
Social Democrats
1
1%
Traditional Unionist Voice
0
No votes
People Before Profit Alliance
1
1%
 
Total votes: 128
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PostRe: The 2017 UK General Election Thread - 8th June
by Lagamorph » Wed Jun 07, 2017 11:12 pm

It still boggles my mind that there could be multiple Tory MPs in the North East on Friday.

Tory MPs. In the North East. That was virtually unthinkable before the referendum.

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PostRe: The 2017 UK General Election Thread - 8th June
by Snowcannon » Wed Jun 07, 2017 11:18 pm

My Tory-voting manager has convinced me to vote Lib Dem

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PostRe: The 2017 UK General Election Thread - 8th June
by satriales » Wed Jun 07, 2017 11:23 pm

Snowcannon wrote:My Tory-voting manager has convinced me to vote Lib Dem


Mine was trying to explain how we pay too much for the NHS and that all non-lifesaving treatments should be scrapped. He knows I had three hospital appointments in the last week, and his other employee relies on the NHS to cope with a mild form of parkinsons (plus they saved him when he had cancer as a teenager). Anyway we both explained that we pay less for our health service than other countries and made other arguments but none of it got through.

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PostRe: The 2017 UK General Election Thread - 8th June
by Alvin Flummux » Wed Jun 07, 2017 11:27 pm

So... are British people getting thicker? Is that it?

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PostRe: The 2017 UK General Election Thread - 8th June
by Lagamorph » Wed Jun 07, 2017 11:30 pm

Alvin Flummux wrote:So... are British people getting thicker? Is that it?

A combination of thicker and more gullible.

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PostRe: The 2017 UK General Election Thread - 8th June
by satriales » Wed Jun 07, 2017 11:31 pm


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PostRe: The 2017 UK General Election Thread - 8th June
by KK » Wed Jun 07, 2017 11:32 pm

Tomorrow's Sun front page in full:

THE SUN SAYS Don’t chuck Britain in the Cor-bin – vote Tory unless you want a friend of terrorists who’s ready to open our borders and hike up taxes as your next PM

Only a vote for the Conservatives — not Ukip, or any other — will help keep Corbyn and his sinister Marxist gang away from power.

TODAY you can rescue Britain from the catastrophe of a takeover by Labour’s hard-left extremists.

Jeremy Corbyn would not just reverse seven years of job-creation and growth under the Tories.

He would chuck our country’s spectacular progress and prosperity over the last 35 YEARS in the bin.

Only a vote for the Conservatives — not Ukip, or any other — will help keep Corbyn and his sinister Marxist gang away from power.

If enough people vote Labour, Britain faces a nightmare beyond anyone’s experience.

In the recent past socialism has reduced one successful country after another to abject poverty.

This would be our fate too if Corbyn is made Prime Minister.

His manifesto made alluring promises of freebies for all. Pay rises, more holidays, more public spending, free higher education, free this, free that.

Many have been taken in, especially politically naive young folk keen to have their debts paid off by other people’s taxes — and led on social media to believe Labour is “good” and the Tories “bad”.

All of this is a mirage, a fraud.

Labour does not have the moral high ground. It could not fund a fraction of its promises without huge tax hikes for all.

The result would be economic collapse and soaring unemployment, inflation, interest rates and home repossessions.

Labour would declare war on businesses, seeing them — as the hard-left does — as predators feasting on workers’ misery. Investors would flee. Your job could go with it.

This is only what the manifesto pledges would bring. That’s just the start of the Marxist revolution.

This man who could become PM poses as a nice, peace-loving old bloke — but he was a proud supporter of the IRA and then a rabble-rouser for Islamist extremists.

He would betray Brexit voters by compromising it to meaninglessness or even scrapping it at the behest of EU-loving parties he would need deals with.

He would never control immigration because it’s “racist”.

He would renationalise industries and give unions new powers way beyond those with which they routinely brought the country to a standstill in the 1970s.

Corbyn has opposed anti-terror laws for 35 years and would render our nuclear deterrent useless by refusing to use it even under attack.

Yet he somehow claims we would be safer under him.

This man’s divisive politics have encouraged his most fervent followers to make this election the most vicious we can recall.

They bombard social media with appalling abuse to intimidate or silence anyone considering voting Tory — including, shamefully, older generations who wisely saw through the hard-Left decades ago.

Even Labour’s high-profile supporters are at it. Consider the idiotic writer Caitlin Moran . . . so blinkered, so cocooned in her left-wing bubble, so convinced of her moral superiority that she thinks it’s OK to call anyone with a different view a “banana split”.

Tory election posters have been routinely torn down or spray-painted with swastikas. Funny, isn’t it, how you never see Labour posters vandalised?

But then this once-great party has never been nastier than it is under Corbyn. Imagine what this mob would do in power.

Shadow Chancellor John McDonnell openly glorifies violence by left-wing thugs. That should terrify us all.

If Theresa May is re-elected, Britain can breathe a sigh of relief.

We will have stuck with a Tory Party that seven years ago pulled us back from the brink after Labour’s ruinous reign.

Even hamstrung by those monstrous debts it managed to help create record numbers of jobs, cut unemployment to historic lows and slash the deficit by two-thirds.

How? By cutting taxes, especially for the poorest, by slashing regulation, by reforming welfare and propelling dole claimants into jobs.

Thanks partly to low corporation tax, job-creating firms sprang up and piled in from abroad.

Corbyn wants to put the tax back up where it was. Instead we need MORE of these soundly Tory ideas: low tax, less big State, fewer regulations.

And, let’s not forget, this is a Tory Party that has stuck to its promise to hold a Brexit referendum and carry through the result in full.

Of course, only a fool would pretend everything in the garden is rosy. Wages are too low. The NHS, schools and police need more money. But their struggles are the result of having to balance the books and wipe out Labour’s deficit.

It’s a slow, tricky, painful process which Corbyn would slam into reverse, causing far more hardship.

Sensible people not blinded by partisan hate know this is true — and there are millions of them.

We hope you’ll be among them and vote Conservative today.

For Britain’s sake, we must keep Corbyn out.

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PostRe: The 2017 UK General Election Thread - 8th June
by Alvin Flummux » Wed Jun 07, 2017 11:34 pm

Lagamorph wrote:
Alvin Flummux wrote:So... are British people getting thicker? Is that it?

A combination of thicker and more gullible.


:fp: And we had the gall to act all superior when the Americans voted Bush and Trump into office.

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PostRe: The 2017 UK General Election Thread - 8th June
by KK » Wed Jun 07, 2017 11:43 pm

Daily Express comment in full:

VOTE MAY OR WE FACE DISASTER: It's time for patriotic realism NOT socialist indulgence

AFTER weeks of frantic campaigning, the hour of judgement has almost arrived for Britain.

In the hallowed tradition of our democracy, it is now time for the nation to reach its verdict.

The choice in this election could hardly be more stark.

On one side there is the mainstream Conservative Party under Theresa May, determined to regain our independence from foreign rule, protect the public and safeguard the economy.

On the other is Labour’s hard-Left rabble under Jeremy Corbyn, the most extreme figure ever to have become a contender for Downing Street.

Driven by Marxist ideology and contempt for our national interests, a Corbyn premiership would quickly become a nightmare for our country.

It is vital, therefore, that the right decision is reached by the voters.

This is a moment for patriotic realism, not socialist indulgence.

On the outcome of the contest depends the course of our destiny and our very existence as a free nation.

We can either move forward with the Conservatives, restoring our democratic sovereignty and maintaining our economic solvency.

Or we can slide into Labour’s world of bankruptcy, chaos and despair, made all the worse by continued surrender to Brussels.

Tomorrow’s poll is no ordinary one the result of which could easily be reversed later.

On the contrary, it is historic in its capacity to shape the British political landscape for decades to come.

This is because there are three great challenges at the heart of the contest.

The first is how the next Government will implement Brexit in accordance with the wishes of the British people expressed in last year’s referendum.

The second is the unprecedented threat of jihadism, combined with the fragmentation of our once cohesive society as a consequence of open borders.

And the third is the need to maintain a successful economy in an increasingly globalised world, characterised by ever greater competition and advancing technology.

On all three of these points, Labour’s reckless, dogmatic approach would be catastrophic.

Wallowing in their fantasy land of class war and anti-British agitation, Corbyn’s crew have no convincing answers for the problems of our age.

Their recipe would just mean more borrowing, taxation, immigration and appeasement of Brussels.

By contrast, Theresa May and her party are willing to take the tough decisions for the sake of Britain’s long-term future, whether it be standing up to the EU or curbing state expenditure or confronting Islamic extremism.

As became clear during the campaign, this election is a titanic fight between May’s pragmatic conservatism and Corbyn’s doctrinaire socialism.

Beyond these two vastly different visions of Britain, no other party is in contention as a serious, nationwide electoral force.

The Scottish Nationalists are an embittered regional grouping, though there is a chance that they could form a Left-wing coalition with Labour if the Tories lose their overall majority.

Meanwhile, the Liberal Democrats’ decline continues to gather pace, fuelled by Tim Farron’s hapless leadership and his unhinged undemocratic disdain for Brexit.

On the other hand, a huge debt is owed by Britain to the UK Independence Party for its heroic role in compelling the Europhile political establishment to hold the EU Vote.

But the decision has now been made.

Ukip has honourably served its purpose.

The task now is to implement Brexit, and that can only be done by a Tory government with a strong majority.

That is why anyone who believes in Britain’s liberty from the subjugation of the EU’s empire must vote Conservative tomorrow.

As she revealed in her Lancaster House speech in January, Theresa May has a clear strategy for achieving our withdrawal, including the return of full control over our borders, courts and trade.

Moreover, she has repeatedly emphasised her willingness to walk away from a bad EU deal.

In addition, her negotiating team for the talks will be led by David Davis, the massively experienced and increasingly impressive Brexit Secretary, who mixes toughness with command of detail.

None of this could be remotely said about Labour’s Brexit policy.

On the biggest issue facing our country, Corbyn’s party is clueless.

The talks with Brussels begin just 11 days after the election, yet Labour’s approach is as clear as mud.

Corbyn has not even indicated whether he will fight the most humiliating terms from Brussels, such as the preposterous £100billion so-called “divorce bill”.

Corbyn and his gang are just as absurd on national security.

After the latest terrorist attack in London, Theresa May rightly said that “enough is enough”, adding that “there has been far too much tolerance of extremism in this country”.

But tolerance of extremism has been Corbyn’s speciality throughout his parliamentary career.

He opportunistically tries to pose as the friend of the police but this is a man who has called Islamist groups his “friends”, mourned the death of Osama bin Laden as “a tragedy” and questioned the need for a shoot-to-kill policy against terrorists.

Even now, his kneejerk anti-Western self-loathing leads him to blame Western foreign policy for jihadism.

Compared with May, he is equally weak in other areas.

The Tories have a target by which to reduce immigration.

As a fanatical internationalist, Corbyn does not believe in controls at all.

The Tories have Amber Rudd as Home Secretary, exuding reliability and competence.

But if Corbyn wins tomorrow her place could be taken by his ex-girlfriend Diane Abbott.

It would be truly terrifying if this inept, unpatriotic bungler were to be put in charge of immigration and the fight against terrorism.

Just as alarming is the idea of shadow chancellor John McDonnell, an IRA-supporting Marxist, taking command of the Treasury. T

To fulfil its prodigal plans, Labour will have to hike taxes and borrowing.

Where Labour offers economic lunacy, Theresa May’s Conservatives provide sanity.

Telling the public that a Government has to live within its means is not always popular, as the row over funding for social care has proved, but that is the only long-term way to avoid debt and depression.

The Tories over the past seven years have an impressive record of job creation and business promotion, as a result of which Britain has one of the highest growth rates in the Western world. As a key member of the Cabinet since 2010, Theresa May helped to achieve that.

She is a serious heavyweight politician with a strong sense of responsibility and purpose.

She deserves to be re-elected.

But Corbyn remains a permanent adolescent protester.

His political career has been one, long dreary moan against the British way of life.

He and his fellow revolutionaries should not be allowed near the governance of our country.

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PostRe: The 2017 UK General Election Thread - 8th June
by DML » Wed Jun 07, 2017 11:43 pm

Let's remember no votes have been cast yet. These arent exit polls.

In other news, a lot of people now expecting Labour to get Portsmouth South for the first time. Tory candidates pretty unpopular mind.

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PostRe: The 2017 UK General Election Thread - 8th June
by Grumpy David » Wed Jun 07, 2017 11:52 pm

Which side will get to use these images tomorrow?

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The twitter meltdown as people realise their echo chambers don't reflect as many people as they thought. Or the scenario where Labour voter share as a percentage increases whilst they end up with fewer seats.

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PostRe: The 2017 UK General Election Thread - 8th June
by Qikz » Thu Jun 08, 2017 12:03 am

Dave. Please answer me this one simple question.

What have the Tories ever done that have actually benefitted YOU as an INDIVIDUAL. I really want to know.

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PostRe: The 2017 UK General Election Thread - 8th June
by Lagamorph » Thu Jun 08, 2017 12:09 am

The polls are absolutely all over the place going into voting day,

twitter.com/britainelects/status/872589161328496641



twitter.com/britainelects/status/872586526437330945



twitter.com/britainelects/status/872558922745479168



twitter.com/britainelects/status/872545556727558145




And for Scotland.

twitter.com/britainelects/status/872588416633974785


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PostRe: The 2017 UK General Election Thread - 8th June
by That » Thu Jun 08, 2017 12:11 am

Grumpy David wrote:Which side will get to use these images tomorrow?


No-one on GRcade, because it would clearly violate our rules on trolling. :)

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PostRe: The 2017 UK General Election Thread - 8th June
by DML » Thu Jun 08, 2017 12:15 am

I hope tomorrow people will act like adults as whatever happens the results will be divisive.

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PostRe: The 2017 UK General Election Thread - 8th June
by Grumpy David » Thu Jun 08, 2017 12:23 am

Qikz wrote:Dave. Please answer me this one simple question.

What have the Tories ever done that have actually benefitted YOU as an INDIVIDUAL. I really want to know.


Promised in or out referendum on EU membership

Increased tax allowance.

Increase to ISA limits

Help to buy ISA

Stamp duty reforms from 3 years ago

Local Tory council has lowest council tax in the country with some of the highest rated services

Indirectly, the economy is doing far better than the mess they inherited, loads of private sector jobs have been created, more than covering any public sector losses.

The biggest failing, and one Labour are just as guilty of, is failure to address systemic housing shortages. However I view that as failure on both supply side (lack of building) and demand side (3 million extra people now live in London compared to when I was born).

Fwiw, I've not voted Tory since 2010 with the exception of the London Mayor election which allows a first preference second preference system. And my constituency is Tooting which has been Labour for many decades so is a relatively safe seat.

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PostRe: The 2017 UK General Election Thread - 8th June
by Lagamorph » Thu Jun 08, 2017 12:28 am

The polls now not expecting anything even remotely resembling a Tory landslide now,

twitter.com/britainelects/status/872591111746990080



May has well and truly strawberry floated up this campaign.

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PostRe: The 2017 UK General Election Thread - 8th June
by Grumpy David » Thu Jun 08, 2017 12:36 am

Lagamorph wrote:The polls now not expecting anything even remotely resembling a Tory landslide now,

twitter.com/britainelects/status/872591111746990080



May has well and truly strawberry floated up this campaign.


At this stage, all that proves is polling is all over the place. +13 vs +1. They were much tighter in 2015 but all wrong. +13 would be a landslide whilst +1 would be a huge strawberry float up.

Wish I was going to be able to take Friday off work.

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PostRe: The 2017 UK General Election Thread - 8th June
by Lagamorph » Thu Jun 08, 2017 12:56 am

Just to muddy the polls even further,

Final election polls give Jeremy Corbyn the lead over Theresa May for the first time

The survey puts Labour on 41.3 per cent of the vote and the Conservatives at 38.5 per cent, making the final result too close to call because the difference falls within the 3.2 per cent margin of error.

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PostRe: The 2017 UK General Election Thread - 8th June
by Alvin Flummux » Thu Jun 08, 2017 1:00 am

Almost time to see if British polling has gotten better than the +/- 15 point margin of error it sat at before this election.


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