The 2017 UK General Election Thread - Voting open today from 7am - 10pm

[Moggy]

Anyone thinking of voting Labour/Corbyn needs to remember that Corbyn wants a Hard Brexit just as badly as Theresa May, if not moreso.

A vote for Labour is just as much a vote for a Hard Brexit as a vote for the Conservatives.

It's rare that me and Laga agree on politics but I agree there.

I like my current Labour MP, but I will probably flip back to Lib Dem due to Brexit.

[That]

Interesting times. This could potentially be remembered as a short-sighted move. Sure, it will marginally increase Tory power until 2022 -- but they were always going to win the next election whenever it were held, so I thought made sense for them to string this Parliament out. Do I have it wrong?

[Drumstick]

Genuinely surprised she's done this before boundaries have been reformed. We still don't know legally if article 50 can be withdrawn after declaring the notice period.

UKIP and Labour collapse whilst no one gives a strawberry float about Lib Dems or Greens should mean a comfortable win for Tories. 45% in polls versus 24% for Labour.

Bye jeremy.

GD, I meant to ask this before but what is this boundary thing you've​ previously mentioned?

Very grim.

[Rocsteady]

Least it'll get rid of Corbyn.

Doesn't matter who I vote for as the SNP will get in, will probably go Lib Dem though. Please vote tactically if you're in a marginal.

[Lagamorph]

Interesting times. This could potentially be remembered as a short-sighted move. Sure, it will marginally increase Tory power until 2022 -- but they were always going to win the next election whenever it were held, so I thought made sense for them to string this Parliament out. Do I have it wrong?

Theresa May wants the ability to say that the public voted for a Hard Brexit.

[Moggy]

Anyone thinking of voting Labour/Corbyn needs to remember that Corbyn wants a Hard Brexit just as badly as Theresa May, if not moreso.

A vote for Labour is just as much a vote for a Hard Brexit as a vote for the Conservatives.

He can only go in to no 10 with a coalition with the Lib Dems and the SNP. A hard Brexit from Corbyn is not realistic mate.

The Lib Dems and SNP will not go into coalition with Corbyn for two reasons.

1. He supports Brexit, they are opposed
2. Corbyn will not get enough votes to even be able to offer a coalition

[KK]

Corbyn's military stance will sink him alone.

[That]

GD, I meant to ask this before but what is this boundary thing you've​ previously mentioned?

The next Tory government is going to try its hand at gerrymandering, making it even more difficult for a Labour government to form. Grumpy David is very excited about this.

[Blue Eyes]

Maybe the chumps who didn't bother voting in the referendum will turn out in force to try to get in The Lib Dems but I doubt it. Country's strawberry floated.

[Rex Kramer]

Does anyone think it likely that Corbyn would enforce the whip to try stop the 2/3rd majority? He surely can't believe he'll win.

[Drumstick]

GD, I meant to ask this before but what is this boundary thing you've​ previously mentioned?

The next Tory government is going to try its hand at gerrymandering, making it even more difficult for a Labour government to form. Grumpy David is very excited about this.

Urgh. I saw that on John Oliver last week. I thoroughly disapprove.

[KK]

I'm not calling an election.
I'm definitely not calling an election.
I'm definitely, 100% not calling an election.
I'm calling an election.

[captain red dog]

Anyone thinking of voting Labour/Corbyn needs to remember that Corbyn wants a Hard Brexit just as badly as Theresa May, if not moreso.

A vote for Labour is just as much a vote for a Hard Brexit as a vote for the Conservatives.

He can only go in to no 10 with a coalition with the Lib Dems and the SNP. A hard Brexit from Corbyn is not realistic mate.

The Lib Dems and SNP will not go into coalition with Corbyn for two reasons.

1. He supports Brexit, they are opposed
2. Corbyn will not get enough votes to even be able to offer a coalition

If they really want to stop Brexit they will have no choice. I don't know where you are getting this 'Corbyn supports hard brexit' idea from. He has said he respects the referendum result but in no way has he endorsed a hard Brexit.

But sure if you want a hard Brexit then shoot yourself in the foot. You'll get rid of Corbyn so it will all be worth it I'm sure!

[Lagamorph]

Anyone thinking of voting Labour/Corbyn needs to remember that Corbyn wants a Hard Brexit just as badly as Theresa May, if not moreso.

A vote for Labour is just as much a vote for a Hard Brexit as a vote for the Conservatives.

He can only go in to no 10 with a coalition with the Lib Dems and the SNP. A hard Brexit from Corbyn is not realistic mate.

The Lib Dems and SNP will not go into coalition with Corbyn for two reasons.

1. He supports Brexit, they are opposed
2. Corbyn will not get enough votes to even be able to offer a coalition

If they really want to stop Brexit they will have no choice. I don't know where you are getting this 'Corbyn supports hard brexit' idea from. He has said he respects the referendum result but in no way has he endorsed a hard Brexit.

But sure if you want a hard Brexit then shoot yourself in the foot. You'll get rid of Corbyn so it will all be worth it I'm sure!

Corbyn has literally spent decades campaigning for Brexit.
He was on national Television the morning after the referendum demanding that Article 50 be triggered immediately with no thought to planning or negotiations.

[That]

Does anyone think it likely that Corbyn would enforce the whip to try stop the 2/3rd majority? He surely can't believe he'll win.

He would have to enforce the whip on that vote and then immediately resign, because "Coward Jeremy Corbyn Runs Scared From General Election" would be the headline of every single newspaper the next day.

[Rex Kramer]

Does anyone think it likely that Corbyn would enforce the whip to try stop the 2/3rd majority? He surely can't believe he'll win.

He would have to enforce the whip on that vote and then immediately resign, because "Coward Jeremy Corbyn Runs Scared From General Election" would be the headline of every single newspaper the next day.

Almost certainly but it's also the only way of Labour holding the Tories to account over the next 3 years.

[captain red dog]

Anyone thinking of voting Labour/Corbyn needs to remember that Corbyn wants a Hard Brexit just as badly as Theresa May, if not moreso.

A vote for Labour is just as much a vote for a Hard Brexit as a vote for the Conservatives.

He can only go in to no 10 with a coalition with the Lib Dems and the SNP. A hard Brexit from Corbyn is not realistic mate.

The Lib Dems and SNP will not go into coalition with Corbyn for two reasons.

1. He supports Brexit, they are opposed
2. Corbyn will not get enough votes to even be able to offer a coalition

If they really want to stop Brexit they will have no choice. I don't know where you are getting this 'Corbyn supports hard brexit' idea from. He has said he respects the referendum result but in no way has he endorsed a hard Brexit.

But sure if you want a hard Brexit then shoot yourself in the foot. You'll get rid of Corbyn so it will all be worth it I'm sure!

Corbyn has literally spent decades campaigning for Brexit.

Campaigning to leave the EU is not the same as a hard Tory Brexit mate. Benn and Corbyn had a different vision to what you will see under May.

[Moggy]

Anyone thinking of voting Labour/Corbyn needs to remember that Corbyn wants a Hard Brexit just as badly as Theresa May, if not moreso.

A vote for Labour is just as much a vote for a Hard Brexit as a vote for the Conservatives.

He can only go in to no 10 with a coalition with the Lib Dems and the SNP. A hard Brexit from Corbyn is not realistic mate.

The Lib Dems and SNP will not go into coalition with Corbyn for two reasons.

1. He supports Brexit, they are opposed
2. Corbyn will not get enough votes to even be able to offer a coalition

If they really want to stop Brexit they will have no choice. I don't know where you are getting this 'Corbyn supports hard brexit' idea from. He has said he respects the referendum result but in no way has he endorsed a hard Brexit.

But sure if you want a hard Brexit then shoot yourself in the foot. You'll get rid of Corbyn so it will all be worth it I'm sure!

I didn't say hard Brexit, you did.

Corbyn supports Brexit. Corbyn cannot win the election. Corbyn cannot get the support of the Lib Dems/SNP. Those are all facts and so I won't be shooting myself in the foot, the outcome is already known.

Even if it was likely to be a close race (and it won't) then I wouldn't be shooting myself in the foot by voting Lib Dem, you already stated Corbyn would need a coalition.

[Grumpy David]

Wonder how much the "Corbyn supports the IRA" type messages will be rolled out.

Interesting times. This could potentially be remembered as a short-sighted move. Sure, it will marginally increase Tory power until 2022 -- but they were always going to win the next election whenever it were held, so I thought made sense for them to string this Parliament out. Do I have it wrong?

I agree with this logic. It seems shortsighted to me. Certainly before boundary reforms.

The only way it makes sense is if you assume Labour will get someone equally incompetent in to replace Corbyn because their voting system thanks to Ed Miliband allows the nutty people to win.

Or May is fearing Tories will be blamed for a messy Brexit.

GD, I meant to ask this before but what is this boundary thing you've​ previously mentioned?

The next Tory government is going to try its hand at gerrymandering, making it even more difficult for a Labour government to form. Grumpy David is very excited about this.

Classic KP.

It's due to the population shifts that naturally happen over time. Some MPs have very low populations within the boundaries whilst others have huge populations. The current system favours Labour. They need a smaller share of the vote to win a majority in Parliament.

The change is to try and equalise it so every MP represents approximately 60,000 people.

It hasn't been updated in ages and was blocked by Lib Dems in previous Parliament because they wanted to make it more likely that the Tories would be forced into coalition again.

[Pancake]

Ugh, I can't stand Theresa May but she will definitely win. I'd much rather have Corbyn and that's saying something.

I now live in an area with a strong Lib Dem presence, so I should probably vote for them.