The 2017 UK General Election Thread - Voting open today from 7am - 10pm

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Who will you be voting for?

Conservatives
14
11%
Labour
64
50%
UK Independence Party
0
No votes
Liberal Democrats (inc. Alliance)
33
26%
Scottish Nationalists
9
7%
Green Party (inc. Scotland, Northern Ireland)
6
5%
Democratic Unionists
0
No votes
Sinn Féin
0
No votes
Plaid Cymru
0
No votes
Ulster Unionists
0
No votes
Social Democrats
1
1%
Traditional Unionist Voice
0
No votes
People Before Profit Alliance
1
1%
 
Total votes: 128
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PostRe: The 2017 UK General Election Thread - Snap Election for 8th June
by Denster » Sun Apr 23, 2017 10:51 am

Yes.

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PostRe: The 2017 UK General Election Thread - Snap Election for 8th June
by Moggy » Sun Apr 23, 2017 10:52 am

Grumpy David wrote:Even if it didn't increase the total amount of days off work, the nice thing about bank holidays is most employed people with some exceptions (NHS, police, fire services, retail) tend to be off work at the same time rather than everyone taking annual leave at different times of the year.


That's the worst thing about bank holidays, how can I feel all smug and superior if everyone else has the same day off? :x

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PostRe: The 2017 UK General Election Thread - Snap Election for 8th June
by Tafdolphin » Sun Apr 23, 2017 11:06 am

Fries. Wedges. Crisps? wrote:Denster, are you a party member?


Denster wrote:Yes.


Since Brexit, this govenment has:

    - Abolished the Department for Energy and Climate Change. One of Theresa May's very first acts as prime minister was to scrap the government department responsible for managing one of the greatest threats humanity has ever faced. The move was condemned by climate campaigners, including Greenpeace and Friends of the Earth, who warned that green issues were being downgraded within Whitehall. Ed Miliband, who once headed up the department, described the decision as "plain stupid".

    - Fought a legal battle against reforms to Personal Independence Payments which would extend disability benefit to 160,000 people with conditions such as dementia.

    - Reduced the benefits cap. Charities warned the reduced cap would affect more than 116,000 of the poorest families in the UK and put domestic abuse refuges at risk of closure.

    - Appointed Boris Johnson, a man who has offended almost every nation on Earth, as foreign secretary, prompting incredulous reactions from governments around the world.

    - Continued selling arms to Saudi Arabia, despite evidence that the Arab state has committed war crimes in Yemen.

    - Slashed funding for pharmacies by more than £200 million over 18 months, putting up to 1,000 pharmacies at risk of closure.

    - Spent £1.9 million building the "Great Wall of Calais" in an attempt to stop migrants entering the UK. Yes, the British government literally "built a wall". Impressively, the project managed to anger both human rights organisations and right-wing politicians in France. Aid organisation Doctors of the World said the decision to build a wall was "as outrageous as it is ludicrous", while Natacha Bouchart, the Calais mayor who recently banned volunteers giving food to refugees, filed an injunction in an unsuccessful attempt to stop construction of the 13ft-high barrier.

    - Backed a pilot scheme forcing pregnant women to show their passports when arriving at hospital in an attempt to clamp down on "health tourism".

    - Declined to mention a Trident missile malfunction just weeks before a Commons vote on whether to replace four nuclear submarines at a cost of £40 billion.

    - Backtracked on plans to allow unaccompanied child refugees into the UK. The government claimed there was no more room, then refused to consult with councils on capacity.

    - Announced plans to bring back grammar schools, which select pupils based on ability. Critics say grammars increase inequality and have a negative impact on comprehensive schools.

    - Ploughed ahead with plans to reform business rates. Experts have warned a rise in property taxes will kill off thousands of independent businesses.

    - Proposed jail sentences of up to 14 years for whistleblowers, and the prosecution of journalists who receive leaked documents. Critics of a planned overhaul of the Official Secrets Act have warned that the changes would make it a criminal offence to receive or handle leaked documents. Jim Killock, chief executive of free speech organisation Open Rights Group, said the plans were a "full fronted attack on journalism", while leading human rights barrister John Cooper QC said they "would potentially undermine some of the most important principles of an open democracy".

    - Overseen an ongoing crisis in prisons which has seen officers walk out over concerns about safety and incidents of suicide and self-harm hit record highs.

    - Scrapped housing benefit for 18 to 21-year-olds. Charities have warned the policy will lead to thousands of young people becoming homeless.

    - Announced a local government spending freeze, prompting a warning from councils that they will need to cut back a range of essential services.

    - Offered a state visit to Donald Trump just a week into his presidency, an honour that was only extended to Barack Obama after more than two years.

    - Signed a £100 million deal which will see Britain sell fighter jets to Turkey – despite the country's dire and worsening human rights record.

    - Stood by as the Red Cross declared a "humanitarian crisis" in the NHS. The charity made its declaration in January after two patients died while waiting for treatment on trolleys in corridors at the Worcestershire Royal hospital. Just a few days later, more than 20 hospitals issued "black alerts", meaning they were unable to guarantee emergency care. Dr Mark Holland, president of the Society for Acute Medicine, said: "For a long time we have been saying that the NHS is on the edge. But people dying after long spells in hospital corridors shows that the NHS is now broken".

    - Abolished the Child Poverty Unit. Set up in 1999, the unit was intended to abolish childhood poverty in 20 years. There is now no target and charities predict a 50 percent increase by 2020.

    - Pledged to crack down on international students, reducing the number of annual visas granted from 300,000 to 170,000 a year.
    - Introduced the "Snoopers Charter", requiring internet and phone companies to store browsing histories for 12 months and giving the government access to the data.

    - Ruled out an inquiry into the Battle of Orgreave, despite previous indications that one would be held, to examine claims that South Yorkshire Police attacked and framed striking miners.

    - Overseen a crisis in social care. Care providers have closed down in more than half of council areas due to lack of funding after six years of government cuts. Local authority leaders across the political spectrum have condemned the crisis, while leading social care experts have warned that the elderly and vulnerable have been put at risk. After months of inaction, the government announced in March it would be spending an extra £2 billion on social care in the next three years (or, more accurately, reversing £2 billion of cuts), but charities have warned this is unlikely to be enough.

    - Taken steps to open up the higher education sector to private firms, prompting warnings of a likely fall in standards and damage to the reputation of British education abroad.

    - Declared the UK has "shared values" with Philippines president Rodrigo Duterte – a man who has publicly encouraged people to kill drug addicts.

    - Weighed into a row between the National Trust and the Church of England over bogus claims that the heritage charity had "airbrushed faith from Easter".

    - Introduced changes to benefit payments which have dramatically reduced the financial support on offer to newly widowed parents.

    - Awarded £250,000 of funding raised by the "tampon tax" to a charity which has described abortion after rape as a "death penalty".

https://www.vice.com/en_uk/article/ever ... referendum

Denster wrote:Yes.


Good stuff.

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PostRe: The 2017 UK General Election Thread - Snap Election for 8th June
by Drumstick » Sun Apr 23, 2017 11:06 am

"Oh hey guys we're offering a small increase to the minimum wage and a couple of extra bank holidays. The Tories won't offer you that!"

Forget about the important stuff, that's me convinced.

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PostRe: The 2017 UK General Election Thread - Snap Election for 8th June
by Denster » Sun Apr 23, 2017 11:12 am

Tafdolphin wrote:
Fries. Wedges. Crisps? wrote:Denster, are you a party member?


Denster wrote:Yes.


Since Brexit, this govenment has:

    - Abolished the Department for Energy and Climate Change. One of Theresa May's very first acts as prime minister was to scrap the government department responsible for managing one of the greatest threats humanity has ever faced. The move was condemned by climate campaigners, including Greenpeace and Friends of the Earth, who warned that green issues were being downgraded within Whitehall. Ed Miliband, who once headed up the department, described the decision as "plain stupid".

    - Fought a legal battle against reforms to Personal Independence Payments which would extend disability benefit to 160,000 people with conditions such as dementia.

    - Reduced the benefits cap. Charities warned the reduced cap would affect more than 116,000 of the poorest families in the UK and put domestic abuse refuges at risk of closure.

    - Appointed Boris Johnson, a man who has offended almost every nation on Earth, as foreign secretary, prompting incredulous reactions from governments around the world.

    - Continued selling arms to Saudi Arabia, despite evidence that the Arab state has committed war crimes in Yemen.

    - Slashed funding for pharmacies by more than £200 million over 18 months, putting up to 1,000 pharmacies at risk of closure.

    - Spent £1.9 million building the "Great Wall of Calais" in an attempt to stop migrants entering the UK. Yes, the British government literally "built a wall". Impressively, the project managed to anger both human rights organisations and right-wing politicians in France. Aid organisation Doctors of the World said the decision to build a wall was "as outrageous as it is ludicrous", while Natacha Bouchart, the Calais mayor who recently banned volunteers giving food to refugees, filed an injunction in an unsuccessful attempt to stop construction of the 13ft-high barrier.

    - Backed a pilot scheme forcing pregnant women to show their passports when arriving at hospital in an attempt to clamp down on "health tourism".

    - Declined to mention a Trident missile malfunction just weeks before a Commons vote on whether to replace four nuclear submarines at a cost of £40 billion.

    - Backtracked on plans to allow unaccompanied child refugees into the UK. The government claimed there was no more room, then refused to consult with councils on capacity.

    - Announced plans to bring back grammar schools, which select pupils based on ability. Critics say grammars increase inequality and have a negative impact on comprehensive schools.

    - Ploughed ahead with plans to reform business rates. Experts have warned a rise in property taxes will kill off thousands of independent businesses.

    - Proposed jail sentences of up to 14 years for whistleblowers, and the prosecution of journalists who receive leaked documents. Critics of a planned overhaul of the Official Secrets Act have warned that the changes would make it a criminal offence to receive or handle leaked documents. Jim Killock, chief executive of free speech organisation Open Rights Group, said the plans were a "full fronted attack on journalism", while leading human rights barrister John Cooper QC said they "would potentially undermine some of the most important principles of an open democracy".

    - Overseen an ongoing crisis in prisons which has seen officers walk out over concerns about safety and incidents of suicide and self-harm hit record highs.

    - Scrapped housing benefit for 18 to 21-year-olds. Charities have warned the policy will lead to thousands of young people becoming homeless.

    - Announced a local government spending freeze, prompting a warning from councils that they will need to cut back a range of essential services.

    - Offered a state visit to Donald Trump just a week into his presidency, an honour that was only extended to Barack Obama after more than two years.

    - Signed a £100 million deal which will see Britain sell fighter jets to Turkey – despite the country's dire and worsening human rights record.

    - Stood by as the Red Cross declared a "humanitarian crisis" in the NHS. The charity made its declaration in January after two patients died while waiting for treatment on trolleys in corridors at the Worcestershire Royal hospital. Just a few days later, more than 20 hospitals issued "black alerts", meaning they were unable to guarantee emergency care. Dr Mark Holland, president of the Society for Acute Medicine, said: "For a long time we have been saying that the NHS is on the edge. But people dying after long spells in hospital corridors shows that the NHS is now broken".

    - Abolished the Child Poverty Unit. Set up in 1999, the unit was intended to abolish childhood poverty in 20 years. There is now no target and charities predict a 50 percent increase by 2020.

    - Pledged to crack down on international students, reducing the number of annual visas granted from 300,000 to 170,000 a year.
    - Introduced the "Snoopers Charter", requiring internet and phone companies to store browsing histories for 12 months and giving the government access to the data.

    - Ruled out an inquiry into the Battle of Orgreave, despite previous indications that one would be held, to examine claims that South Yorkshire Police attacked and framed striking miners.

    - Overseen a crisis in social care. Care providers have closed down in more than half of council areas due to lack of funding after six years of government cuts. Local authority leaders across the political spectrum have condemned the crisis, while leading social care experts have warned that the elderly and vulnerable have been put at risk. After months of inaction, the government announced in March it would be spending an extra £2 billion on social care in the next three years (or, more accurately, reversing £2 billion of cuts), but charities have warned this is unlikely to be enough.

    - Taken steps to open up the higher education sector to private firms, prompting warnings of a likely fall in standards and damage to the reputation of British education abroad.

    - Declared the UK has "shared values" with Philippines president Rodrigo Duterte – a man who has publicly encouraged people to kill drug addicts.

    - Weighed into a row between the National Trust and the Church of England over bogus claims that the heritage charity had "airbrushed faith from Easter".

    - Introduced changes to benefit payments which have dramatically reduced the financial support on offer to newly widowed parents.

    - Awarded £250,000 of funding raised by the "tampon tax" to a charity which has described abortion after rape as a "death penalty".

https://www.vice.com/en_uk/article/ever ... referendum

Denster wrote:Yes.


Good stuff.


Omelettes and eggs.

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PostRe: The 2017 UK General Election Thread - Snap Election for 8th June
by Cuttooth » Sun Apr 23, 2017 11:16 am

The selfishness of the electorate will be this country's unfortunate, eventual downfall.

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PostRe: The 2017 UK General Election Thread - Snap Election for 8th June
by more heat than light » Sun Apr 23, 2017 11:26 am

Denster wrote:Omelettes and eggs.


This is one rancid strawberry floating omelette though.

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PostRe: The 2017 UK General Election Thread - Snap Election for 8th June
by That » Sun Apr 23, 2017 11:28 am

Denster wrote:Omelettes and eggs.


They've broken a lot of eggs, though, so I'm interested to hear what you think the huge omelette is in your eyes? Is it just Brexit?

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PostRe: The 2017 UK General Election Thread - Snap Election for 8th June
by satriales » Sun Apr 23, 2017 11:42 am

Drumstick wrote:"Oh hey guys we're offering a small increase to the minimum wage and a couple of extra bank holidays. The Tories won't offer you that!"

Forget about the important stuff, that's me convinced.

I wouldn't say the minimum wage increase is small, some people at my work would have their pay go from 18k to 25k.

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PostRe: The 2017 UK General Election Thread - Snap Election for 8th June
by Moggy » Sun Apr 23, 2017 11:49 am

Drumstick wrote:"Oh hey guys we're offering a small increase to the minimum wage and a couple of extra bank holidays. The Tories won't offer you that!"

Forget about the important stuff, that's me convinced.


Genuine text I received this morning.

Got to laugh Jeremy corbyn is saying he'll introduce 4 more bank holidays and Dave is now swayed to Labour! Good a reason as any I suppose lol. Staying in today


Dave is a guy that voted Tory last time (because he had placed a bet on a Tory victory) and voted for Brexit ("just fancy a change!").

:slol:

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PostRe: The 2017 UK General Election Thread - Snap Election for 8th June
by Cuttooth » Sun Apr 23, 2017 11:52 am

Classic Dave.

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PostRe: The 2017 UK General Election Thread - Snap Election for 8th June
by Drumstick » Sun Apr 23, 2017 11:52 am

satriales wrote:
Drumstick wrote:"Oh hey guys we're offering a small increase to the minimum wage and a couple of extra bank holidays. The Tories won't offer you that!"

Forget about the important stuff, that's me convinced.

I wouldn't say the minimum wage increase is small, some people at my work would have their pay go from 18k to 25k.

The proposed increase isn't small, the actual increase will be small and staggered.

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PostRe: The 2017 UK General Election Thread - Snap Election for 8th June
by Moggy » Sun Apr 23, 2017 11:53 am

Cuttooth wrote:Classic Dave.


It really is :lol:

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PostRe: The 2017 UK General Election Thread - Snap Election for 8th June
by Grumpy David » Sun Apr 23, 2017 11:59 am

Whilst Lib Dems rule out a progressive alliance, UKIP are planning this:

twitter.com/GoodwinMJ/status/856059519683768320



Preventing the split Brexit vote. UKIP can't afford to run in every seat this time either.

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PostRe: The 2017 UK General Election Thread - Snap Election for 8th June
by Return_of_the_STAR » Sun Apr 23, 2017 11:59 am

The joke is small things like making St Georges day a bank holiday really do sway thousands of people.

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PostRe: The 2017 UK General Election Thread - Snap Election for 8th June
by Herdanos » Sun Apr 23, 2017 12:00 pm

Denster wrote:Yes.


I thought as much, you refer to the Cons as "us" a lot. Makes sense now though.

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PostRe: The 2017 UK General Election Thread - Snap Election for 8th June
by That » Sun Apr 23, 2017 12:02 pm

Moggy wrote:
Cuttooth wrote:Classic Dave.


It really is :lol:


How can you stand being mates with someone like that? The fact that he freely texts you his political views implies you haven't told him to strawberry float off yet, you must have the patience of a saint. :lol:

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PostRe: The 2017 UK General Election Thread - Snap Election for 8th June
by Moggy » Sun Apr 23, 2017 12:03 pm

Karl wrote:
Moggy wrote:
Cuttooth wrote:Classic Dave.


It really is :lol:


How can you stand being mates with someone like that? The fact that he freely texts you his political views implies you haven't told him to strawberry float off yet, you must have the patience of a saint. :lol:


He didn't text me that, his partner did.

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PostRe: The 2017 UK General Election Thread - Snap Election for 8th June
by Oblomov Boblomov » Sun Apr 23, 2017 12:26 pm

Fries. Wedges. Crisps? wrote:
Denster wrote:Yes.


I thought as much, you refer to the Cons as "us" a lot. Makes sense now though.

Seeing as I joined the Lib Dems the other day does that mean I have to start referring to them as 'we' and 'us'?

We're stealing your seats, Denster 8-).

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PostRe: The 2017 UK General Election Thread - Snap Election for 8th June
by Memento Mori » Sun Apr 23, 2017 12:27 pm

Got two political leaflets through the door yesterday.

1. A5 leaflet from the conservatives. One side is entirely a picture of Theresa May and the name of the current conservative MP isn't mentioned anywhere on the leaflet or even the name of this constituency.
2. A3 leaflet from the Lib Dems. The former Lib Dem MP who's running again is in three separate photos and there's a large picture of Theresa May with Trump.

I think the conservatives have already written off this seat. :lol:


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