The 2017 UK General Election Thread - Voting open today from 7am - 10pm

Fed up talking videogames? Why?

Who will you be voting for?

Conservatives
14
11%
Labour
64
50%
UK Independence Party
0
No votes
Liberal Democrats (inc. Alliance)
33
26%
Scottish Nationalists
9
7%
Green Party (inc. Scotland, Northern Ireland)
6
5%
Democratic Unionists
0
No votes
Sinn Féin
0
No votes
Plaid Cymru
0
No votes
Ulster Unionists
0
No votes
Social Democrats
1
1%
Traditional Unionist Voice
0
No votes
People Before Profit Alliance
1
1%
 
Total votes: 128
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PostThe 2017 UK General Election Thread - Voting open today from 7am - 10pm
by Monkey Man » Tue Apr 18, 2017 11:05 am








Will May call an early election? - Five reason why she might

Here are some reasons why she might.

Five reasons why she might call an early election

1 - The polls, obviously.


This was YouGov yesterday.



And these figures may be even more important than the state of the party polling.



And ComRes found an identical lead for the Tories over the weekend.



2 - If May is going to call a surprise election, during the Brexit negotiations, now would be a good time to do it. May would be able to get the election out of way within about six weeks, which would not really interfere with the negotiations. The big advantage in having an election now is that during the negotiations she is almost certainly going to have to make compromises that will be unpalatable to hardline pro-leave voters and Tory MPs. If the election is in 2020, as it is meant to be, she may have to go to the polls explaining why the UK is still paying money to the EU, accepting European court of justice rulings etc. If she could win a majority now, she would be safe for another five years.

3 - Labour has said it would vote for an early election, meaning that May would have the two-thirds majority needed to bypass the Fixed-term Parliaments Act.

4 - The Crown Prosecution Service is due to make a decision quite soon about whether to charge Tories in relation to alleged over-spending at the general election in South Thanet and in other constituencies. An election now would eliminate the risk of prosecutions leading to byelections in these seats.

5 - May would have shown that she has learnt the lesson from Gordon Brown’s “election that never was” in 2007. He dithered over calling an election at a time when it would have suited him, but called it off at the last moment, having let public speculation get out of hand. May until now has firmly ruled out an election, meaning that if she called one now, it would come as a complete surprise.
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by KK » Tue Apr 18, 2017 11:08 am

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PostRe: The 2017 UK General Election Thread - Snap Election for 8th June
by Tineash » Tue Apr 18, 2017 11:09 am

Bye jeremy.
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PostRe: The 2017 UK General Election Thread - Snap Election for 8th June
by Preezy » Tue Apr 18, 2017 11:09 am

Does this mean each party has to release a mandate manifesto?

Need to educate myself better about who to vote for and why.
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PostRe: The 2017 UK General Election Thread - Snap Election for 8th June
by Tineash » Tue Apr 18, 2017 11:10 am

I also look forward to Ed Miliband being confirmed as the most popular Labour leader post-Blair.
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PostRe: The 2017 UK General Election Thread - Snap Election for 8th June
by Ad7 » Tue Apr 18, 2017 11:10 am

What's the point in a snap election then?
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PostRe: The 2017 UK General Election Thread - Snap Election for 8th June
by Dual » Tue Apr 18, 2017 11:11 am

Page 1 of a 300 page thread yeah
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PostRe: The 2017 UK General Election Thread - Snap Election for 8th June
by Preezy » Tue Apr 18, 2017 11:12 am

Ad7 wrote:What's the point in a snap election then?

Massive opportunity for the Tories to consolidate power, I suppose.
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PostRe: The 2017 UK General Election Thread - Snap Election for 8th June
by Moggy » Tue Apr 18, 2017 11:13 am

Ad7 wrote:What's the point in a snap election then?


5 more years of power with increased Tory dominance.

An end to "she's unelected!" bullshit.

Gets rid of Corbyn.
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PostRe: The 2017 UK General Election Thread - Snap Election for 8th June
by Death's Head » Tue Apr 18, 2017 11:13 am

Isn't this kind of short notice?
Yes?
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PostRe: The 2017 UK General Election Thread - Snap Election for 8th June
by Grumpy David » Tue Apr 18, 2017 11:16 am

Genuinely surprised she's done this before boundaries have been reformed. We still don't know legally if article 50 can be withdrawn after declaring the notice period.

UKIP and Labour collapse whilst no one gives a strawberry float about Lib Dems or Greens should mean a comfortable win for Tories. 45% in polls versus 24% for Labour.

Tineash wrote:Bye jeremy.


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PostRe: The 2017 UK General Election Thread - Snap Election for 8th June
by lex-man » Tue Apr 18, 2017 11:16 am

Well, I'll probably vote Lib Dem but I'm guessing that Tories will get a huge majority.
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PostRe: The 2017 UK General Election Thread - Snap Election for 8th June
by captain red dog » Tue Apr 18, 2017 11:19 am

Remainers need to be smart here. You might not want Corbyn but surely that is preferable to 5 years of a very strong Tory Govt. If you want a soft Brexit you need Corbyn to win. So you should be voting Labour or Lib Dems in constituencies where they have a chance.

I'm voting Labour. Lib Dems are nowhere in my constituency even if I could stomach voting for them. The biggest disaster for the working class would be a strong Tory govt right now.
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PostRe: The 2017 UK General Election Thread - Snap Election for 8th June
by Lagamorph » Tue Apr 18, 2017 11:19 am

Wait what? Well that came out of nowhere. I thought she'd been quite vocally opposed to a General Election at the moment.
Unless it's a tactic to distract the news from Brexit for a while, then afterwards she really can say "The British people voted for a Hard Brexit" when the Tories win....

Will be voting Lib Dem for this most definitely. My constituency is usually between Lib Dem and Labour.
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PostRe: The 2017 UK General Election Thread - Snap Election for 8th June
by TigaSefi » Tue Apr 18, 2017 11:19 am

8th June... D-Day for the corbynite party to rise up and be counted.

I'm on holiday so will need to do a postal vote!
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PostRe: The 2017 UK General Election Thread - Snap Election for 8th June
by Rex Kramer » Tue Apr 18, 2017 11:19 am

I wonder how many Labour MPs are currently phoning Tim Farron?
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PostRe: The 2017 UK General Election Thread - Snap Election for 8th June
by DML » Tue Apr 18, 2017 11:20 am

Depressing.

Voting Lib Dem.
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PostRe: The 2017 UK General Election Thread - Snap Election for 8th June
by Lagamorph » Tue Apr 18, 2017 11:20 am

Anyone thinking of voting Labour/Corbyn needs to remember that Corbyn wants a Hard Brexit just as badly as Theresa May, if not moreso.

A vote for Labour is just as much a vote for a Hard Brexit as a vote for the Conservatives.
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PostRe: The 2017 UK General Election Thread - Snap Election for 8th June
by Moggy » Tue Apr 18, 2017 11:22 am

captain red dog wrote:Remainers need to be smart here. You might not want Corbyn but surely that is preferable to 5 years of a very strong Tory Govt. If you want a soft Brexit you need Corbyn to win. So you should be voting Labour or Lib Dems in constituencies where they have a chance.

I'm voting Labour. Lib Dems are nowhere in my constituency even if I could stomach voting for them. The biggest disaster for the working class would be a strong Tory govt right now.


Corbyn doesn't support remaining and so it's kind of irrelevant to us (on that issue) whether it's May or Corbyn in charge.

Corbyn will not win. He is going to be annihilated. That's just the simple facts. It doesn't matter if you or I think he's better, worse or the same as May, he will not win.
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PostRe: The 2017 UK General Election Thread - Snap Election for 8th June
by captain red dog » Tue Apr 18, 2017 11:22 am

Lagamorph wrote:Anyone thinking of voting Labour/Corbyn needs to remember that Corbyn wants a Hard Brexit just as badly as Theresa May, if not moreso.

A vote for Labour is just as much a vote for a Hard Brexit as a vote for the Conservatives.

He can only go in to no 10 with a coalition with the Lib Dems and the SNP. A hard Brexit from Corbyn is not realistic mate.

Edit: Moggy that kind of responds to your point too. In terms of realism, I don't judge on the polls as the polls have been wrong for the past couple of years now. My point is, don't vote with your heart on this one as the priority is to prevent a Tory strong government. That is the one way to guarantee the absolute worst possible Brexit deal.
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