Re: The all new No Context thread.
Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2022 2:53 pm
kazanova_Frankenstein wrote:I have a brilliant one here and now I don't feel I can post it.
kazanova_Frankenstein wrote:I have a brilliant one here and now I don't feel I can post it.
rinks wrote:I just read the reasoning for the old thread being closed. What an absolute barrel of cuntery this situation is.
Qikz wrote:There's a lot of history in the archive which would be a huge shame to lose if it was gone - same problem I had with gamesradar. There's so many good things that were posted back then that losing it would suck.
Requiring a login though is a great idea. Might drive more people to sign up too.
RetroCora wrote:Qikz wrote:There's a lot of history in the archive which would be a huge shame to lose if it was gone - same problem I had with gamesradar. There's so many good things that were posted back then that losing it would suck.
Requiring a login though is a great idea. Might drive more people to sign up too.
There are also a lot of wildly inappropriate things posted by people too young to realise any different(I’m very guilty of this). It’s a hard balance to strike between keeping the good content and getting rid of some of the nasty stuff.
RetroCora wrote:Qikz wrote:There's a lot of history in the archive which would be a huge shame to lose if it was gone - same problem I had with gamesradar. There's so many good things that were posted back then that losing it would suck.
Requiring a login though is a great idea. Might drive more people to sign up too.
There are also a lot of wildly inappropriate things posted by people too young to realise any different(I’m very guilty of this). It’s a hard balance to strike between keeping the good content and getting rid of some of the nasty stuff.
Qikz wrote:RetroCora wrote:Qikz wrote:There's a lot of history in the archive which would be a huge shame to lose if it was gone - same problem I had with gamesradar. There's so many good things that were posted back then that losing it would suck.
Requiring a login though is a great idea. Might drive more people to sign up too.
There are also a lot of wildly inappropriate things posted by people too young to realise any different(I’m very guilty of this). It’s a hard balance to strike between keeping the good content and getting rid of some of the nasty stuff.
The good and bad sadly is all our history. Maybe the best way forward is to start afresh, keep this forum as a member only archive and move forward with new accounts on discourse. That way we get away from phpbb, the archive stays member only and only we can get to it and we don't lose anything.
Moggy wrote:I don't know if anybody here uses their real name, but looking at the post history of most of us, the no context thread is the least of our problems if employers link our forum posts to our real identities.
Moggy wrote:RetroCora wrote:Qikz wrote:There's a lot of history in the archive which would be a huge shame to lose if it was gone - same problem I had with gamesradar. There's so many good things that were posted back then that losing it would suck.
Requiring a login though is a great idea. Might drive more people to sign up too.
There are also a lot of wildly inappropriate things posted by people too young to realise any different(I’m very guilty of this). It’s a hard balance to strike between keeping the good content and getting rid of some of the nasty stuff.
First the no context thread and now a vast amount of GR history? All over some paranoia that somehow in the future somebody will be linked to their username here and their posts from 2008 might be discovered?
We might as well just close the forum.
Moggy wrote:Qikz wrote:The good and bad sadly is all our history. Maybe the best way forward is to start afresh, keep this forum as a member only archive and move forward with new accounts on discourse. That way we get away from phpbb, the archive stays member only and only we can get to it and we don't lose anything.
You'll lose the majority of the (already low) userbase.
OrangeRKN wrote:I'm genuinely interested why you think that would be a problem or drive people away
Oblomov Boblomov wrote:OrangeRKN wrote:I'm genuinely interested why you think that would be a problem or drive people away
You underestimate how lazy we are.
OrangeRKN wrote:Moggy wrote:Qikz wrote:The good and bad sadly is all our history. Maybe the best way forward is to start afresh, keep this forum as a member only archive and move forward with new accounts on discourse. That way we get away from phpbb, the archive stays member only and only we can get to it and we don't lose anything.
You'll lose the majority of the (already low) userbase.
Why do you think that would be a problem for the userbase?
The current forum software is increasingly falling over. The database is already beyond the point where we can migrate it into our preferred modern forum software (discourse). In all likelihood we need to migrate to new forum software sooner rather than later. I think starting with a fresh install, with the phpbb forum available as an archive on some subdomain, is probably the only practical way forward. We would keep all of the history, ensure old links redirect correctly, and gain all of the advantages of modern forum software. I'm genuinely interested why you think that would be a problem or drive people away (which is the last thing we want to do!)
OrangeRKN wrote:Oblomov Boblomov wrote:OrangeRKN wrote:I'm genuinely interested why you think that would be a problem or drive people away
You underestimate how lazy we are.
What are you imagining as the effort involved for a regular user?
Ideally we can import the user list so people won't even have to recreate their account.
There will be a certain amount of getting used to the new forum software and its differences to phpbb. We did a trial a while ago now and asked people to sign up for feedback, from that we found the biggest points of friction and how to configure discourse to mitigate them, and overall opinion seemed positive (and I say this as probably one of the people who made the most complaints - well meaning but I regret now as it may have contributed to losing momentum at the time).
I'd also add that many forums require registration to view the archives, it wouldn't be an odd situation. I think it is a good idea, but that's a separate point of discussion to having forum history as an archive (public or not).