The BBC Sports Personality of the Year Awards 2015

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PostRe: The BBC Sports Personality of the Year Awards 2015
by captain red dog » Tue Dec 08, 2015 6:46 pm

17 Dan.s until Christmas! wrote:
captain red dog wrote:If they ban him from SPOTY then they have to ban Songs of Praise in my opinion since its based on the same shite that Fury gets his views from.


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Last time I checked being racist was illegal but saying that you think homosexuality is a sin is not (no matter how much I disagree with that sentiment).

Banning Fury from SPOTY for repeating views from the Bible whilst having a major show praising the same book of shite is double standards.

Far too often these days people are no platformed for simply having an opinion that people don't agree with. He is perfectly entitled to say that gays are sinners (what he actually said wasn't particularly inflammatory) , I think that an absolutely dopey as strawberry float opinion but if he wants to think that then that's up to him.

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PostRe: The BBC Sports Personality of the Year Awards 2015
by Moggy » Tue Dec 08, 2015 6:51 pm

captain red dog wrote:
17 Dan.s until Christmas! wrote:
captain red dog wrote:If they ban him from SPOTY then they have to ban Songs of Praise in my opinion since its based on the same shite that Fury gets his views from.


:| :fp:

Last time I checked being racist was illegal but saying that you think homosexuality is a sin is not (no matter how much I disagree with that sentiment).

Banning Fury from SPOTY for repeating views from the Bible whilst having a major show praising the same book of shite is double standards.

Far too often these days people are no platformed for simply having an opinion that people don't agree with. He is perfectly entitled to say that gays are sinners (what he actually said wasn't particularly inflammatory) , I think that an absolutely dopey as strawberry float opinion but if he wants to think that then that's up to him.


And on the same basis people are entitled to think that he should be ruled ineligible. If Fury is allowed to say homosexuality is a sin, then people are entitled to say that he should be thrown out of the SPotY shortlist.

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PostRe: The BBC Sports Personality of the Year Awards 2015
by Skippy » Tue Dec 08, 2015 6:56 pm

captain red dog wrote:Banning Fury from SPOTY for repeating views from the Bible whilst having a major show praising the same book of shite is double standards.


Didn't he also liken homosexuality to paedophilia?

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PostRe: The BBC Sports Personality of the Year Awards 2015
by Irene Demova » Tue Dec 08, 2015 7:04 pm

Skippy wrote:
captain red dog wrote:Banning Fury from SPOTY for repeating views from the Bible whilst having a major show praising the same book of shite is double standards.


Didn't he also liken homosexuality to paedophilia?

Yeah and he promised to honour kill his sister

There's no reason to kick him out but I can understand them being worried that he might win

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PostRe: The BBC Sports Personality of the Year Awards 2015
by captain red dog » Tue Dec 08, 2015 7:24 pm

Moggy wrote:
captain red dog wrote:
17 Dan.s until Christmas! wrote:
captain red dog wrote:If they ban him from SPOTY then they have to ban Songs of Praise in my opinion since its based on the same shite that Fury gets his views from.


:| :fp:

Last time I checked being racist was illegal but saying that you think homosexuality is a sin is not (no matter how much I disagree with that sentiment).

Banning Fury from SPOTY for repeating views from the Bible whilst having a major show praising the same book of shite is double standards.

Far too often these days people are no platformed for simply having an opinion that people don't agree with. He is perfectly entitled to say that gays are sinners (what he actually said wasn't particularly inflammatory) , I think that an absolutely dopey as strawberry float opinion but if he wants to think that then that's up to him.


And on the same basis people are entitled to think that he should be ruled ineligible. If Fury is allowed to say homosexuality is a sin, then people are entitled to say that he should be thrown out of the SPotY shortlist.

But on what grounds could you rule him ineligible. He hasn't broken the law and this investigation on him isn't going to lead anywhere because no law has been broken.

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PostRe: The BBC Sports Personality of the Year Awards 2015
by romeo G. Detlev Jr. » Tue Dec 08, 2015 7:41 pm

captain red dog wrote:
Moggy wrote:
captain red dog wrote:
17 Dan.s until Christmas! wrote:
captain red dog wrote:If they ban him from SPOTY then they have to ban Songs of Praise in my opinion since its based on the same shite that Fury gets his views from.


:| :fp:

Last time I checked being racist was illegal but saying that you think homosexuality is a sin is not (no matter how much I disagree with that sentiment).

Banning Fury from SPOTY for repeating views from the Bible whilst having a major show praising the same book of shite is double standards.

Far too often these days people are no platformed for simply having an opinion that people don't agree with. He is perfectly entitled to say that gays are sinners (what he actually said wasn't particularly inflammatory) , I think that an absolutely dopey as strawberry float opinion but if he wants to think that then that's up to him.


And on the same basis people are entitled to think that he should be ruled ineligible. If Fury is allowed to say homosexuality is a sin, then people are entitled to say that he should be thrown out of the SPotY shortlist.

But on what grounds could you rule him ineligible. He hasn't broken the law and this investigation on him isn't going to lead anywhere because no law has been broken.


Er... the BBC make the rules about SPOTY. Whether he's broken a law or not isn't the question at hand here.

The question is, is Tyson Fury a bigot, to which the answer is yes

Now a television company would normally have the right to select whomever they desire for feature or promotion

However the BBC is paid for by those who (have to) pay the license fee i.e. the taxpayer

As many of those who contributed (financially) to this broadcast will be the people Fury has likened to paedophiles (not even considering his backwards view on women), I would say that the BBC is failing in its remit to spend its taxpayers' contributions responsibly, and to maintain an even tone (because like it or not, nominating Fury for an award where entry is not merit-based but judgement based is not even - they have actively decided he is an acceptable participant, meaning they do not object to giving him a platform)

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PostRe: The BBC Sports Personality of the Year Awards 2015
by Moggy » Tue Dec 08, 2015 8:01 pm

captain red dog wrote:
Moggy wrote:
captain red dog wrote:
17 Dan.s until Christmas! wrote:
captain red dog wrote:If they ban him from SPOTY then they have to ban Songs of Praise in my opinion since its based on the same shite that Fury gets his views from.


:| :fp:

Last time I checked being racist was illegal but saying that you think homosexuality is a sin is not (no matter how much I disagree with that sentiment).

Banning Fury from SPOTY for repeating views from the Bible whilst having a major show praising the same book of shite is double standards.

Far too often these days people are no platformed for simply having an opinion that people don't agree with. He is perfectly entitled to say that gays are sinners (what he actually said wasn't particularly inflammatory) , I think that an absolutely dopey as strawberry float opinion but if he wants to think that then that's up to him.


And on the same basis people are entitled to think that he should be ruled ineligible. If Fury is allowed to say homosexuality is a sin, then people are entitled to say that he should be thrown out of the SPotY shortlist.

But on what grounds could you rule him ineligible. He hasn't broken the law and this investigation on him isn't going to lead anywhere because no law has been broken.


I wouldn't rule him out of anything, I don't make the rules. That's up to the BBC. Any complaints about "no platforming" are irrelevant unless the BBC decide to remove Fury from consideration.

As I said if Fury has the right to compare homosexuality to paedophilia then people definitely have the right to protest about his inclusion on the state broadcasters award show.

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PostRe: The BBC Sports Personality of the Year Awards 2015
by Memento Mori » Tue Dec 08, 2015 8:44 pm




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PostRe: The BBC Sports Personality of the Year Awards 2015
by captain red dog » Wed Dec 09, 2015 7:36 pm

I'd rather people protest his actual opinion than try to get him banned just because they disagree with him. Let him take part and protest outside the venue.

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PostRe: The BBC Sports Personality of the Year Awards 2015
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