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Drumstick wrote:What if someone breaks a leg or has a serious accident meaning that they are unable to work or even attend work for a longer period of time (i.e. 2 months)?

They may not have a job to come back to, depending on whether they can get FMLA or something else.

Alvin Flummux wrote:

Drumstick wrote:What if someone breaks a leg or has a serious accident meaning that they are unable to work or even attend work for a longer period of time (i.e. 2 months)?

They may not have a job to come back to, depending on whether they can get FMLA or something else.

*Googles*

"FMLA" refers to the Family and Medical Leave Act, which is a federal law that guarantees certain employees up to 12 workweeks of unpaid leave each year with no threat of job loss. FMLA also requires that employers covered by the law maintain the health benefits for eligible workers just as if they were working.

Holy strawberry float. How can it be legal there to sack someone for say, falling off their bicycle? So much wrong.

It's like the employee should be grateful that the employer keeps their job open despite it being unpaid leave.

I don't have an amazing job, nor do I work for an amazing company, but if I had a serious injury my employer would continue to pay me full-time salary for at least 4 months.

America is such a backwards gooseberry fool heap.

How about you snowflakes stop getting hurt?

At the moment I have one months sick pay. It's taken 5 years to get here. You get squat for the first two years service.

I agree America is backwards, and agree about sick leave.

However. It is a huge pain in the ass, especially when you need to find replacements. Rip labour budgets (yes it is budgeted for, but there is usually some BS reason why you need to find savings).
Then during the end of the year you get pressure to save on labour, which mean you have to be a dick as not approving Annual Leave over xmas, or asking questions like "Did you really love him that much, to warrant bereavement?"

Also budgets are just BS. You start to understand why you see some senior business people act like pricks. It's like you spend all year trying to climb Everest, only to collapse a few meters from the top, you get back to the base, only to be told to climb back up, but since you were close to the top they are going to move it up 5 kms.

Oblomov Boblomov wrote:

Drumstick wrote:It's going around our place too. I had the worst of it on Saturday so hopefully I'm in the clear... After all, I wouldn't want OB cautioning me for excessive sickness.

Feeling so economically unviable right now .

Turns out I was wrong. Emailed in sick a little earlier.

Work is still adding work to my pile thinking it's going to get done. I have 8 working days left and probably a month of full time projects

They really don't get it.

People being sick is inconvenient but the important thing is that they are given adequate time to recover and return to work. It's morally wrong to have this unspoken threat of job loss over someone's head, potentially forcing them into returning to work earlier than they should which could end up resulting in them going off sick again.

Drumstick wrote:People being sick is inconvenient but the important thing is that they are given adequate time to recover and return to work. It's morally wrong to have this unspoken threat of job loss over someone's head, potentially forcing them into returning to work earlier than they should which could end up resulting in them going off sick again.

All of that plus the risk they will spread it around the rest of the employees and you’ll end up losing a few more people.

My wife gets a lot of gooseberry fool if she needs to take a sick day for herself or to look after our daughter, she gets grilled over what she has, if anyone else can mind the child, when will she be back and she has to phone in that evening to say whether or not she will need a second day. Theres then 40 questions when she does come back into work, disguised as concern, "Is everything ok?", "Are you all better?", "What did you have?". Its all done to make it as hard as possible for someone to ring in sick and pressure them into not taking sick days.

When I need to take a day I email my manager and I get an "OK" in repsonse, seeing this she has realised her employers are a bunch of banana splits so shes started to push back on this kind of stuff, just rings, says she wont be in and hangs up the phone. Its worked out much better now and she doesnt get half as much gooseberry fool from them.

At my work you put a message on the work Slack saying "feeling rough won't be in today" then that's it. I'm not sure how/if it even gets properly recorded. I still can't believe I work somewhere where people are trusted to not take the piss with that sort of thing. Completely night and day compared to my old job where you sometimes had to get permission to take a dump.

I just started a new job on Monday (yay!) and the sickness policy is super stringent. Gotta call an independent monitoring service for a phone based consultation (in case you dont recognise your symptoms or are bullshitting) and tracking of your sickness activity, and any more than 8 days sickness or 3 or more incidents of being off in a year gets flagged. Compared to my last place where I barely had to tell anyone its a lot more of an inconvenience. I dont really take sick days though so I'm not too bothered by it and everything else about working there seems to be a huge improvement.

Also 8 minute drive to work and home by 4:15 every day = win.

If I feel ill I don't walk into the office or workshop. Simple.

We have to go through a list of questions if we ring in. Then a list of questions once we return to work. It's a bit annoying.

We just call in and say that we don't feel well and that we won't be in.

As long as you don't take the piss they're fine with that.

I've been asked to show various people how to use things like the large format printer before I leave. One person in particular has been singled out by my boss as being 'capable of picking up some of my smaller jobs and editing things'. Upon describing the procedure said person said, "you make your stuff in Photoshop right?"

"....no, that's just for photo editing, I use InDesign mostly"

"What's that?"



They said they'd make their own bit of art to print and test.

They made a poster. IN POWERPOINT.



I leave in 7 days.

wow

To be fair unless you work in graphics I don't really blame the person for using PPT. The issue is with the bosses thinking such a person could be the replacement.

Oh absolutely. The funny bit is how I've been told about this standby assistance, when spending 5 mins talking has shown it's anything but.