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Re: The Work Thread

Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2018 10:15 am
by Tragic Magic
Cheers guys. Some people have asked about the two issues separately but I know I've been the one to mention my old job first a couple of times.

Re: The Work Thread

Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2018 10:16 am
by Errkal
yeah if it comes up go with what Moggy said, but don't bring i up yourself if they don't ask they don't need to know.

Re: The Work Thread

Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2018 1:55 pm
by Qikz
I got told off at work again for something I haven't even been doing. The other boss pulled me into the meeting room and accused me of trying to spread negativity and wanted to ensure I wasn't trying to harm the business. I don't get how they can accuse me of that when I've been working so hard. If I wasn't doing my work I could understand, but I'm trying really hard to not get I to trouble and just do my work. Wtf.

Re: The Work Thread

Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2018 2:30 pm
by Moggy
Qikz wrote:I got told off at work again for something I haven't even been doing. The other boss pulled me into the meeting room and accused me of trying to spread negativity and wanted to ensure I wasn't trying to harm the business. I don't get how they can accuse me of that when I've been working so hard. If I wasn't doing my work I could understand, but I'm trying really hard to not get I to trouble and just do my work. Wtf.


That sucks and is very unfair.

Are you looking for another job? If not I would start looking, you don’t deserve to be treated like gooseberry fool.

Re: The Work Thread

Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2018 2:32 pm
by That
Have you said anything to anyone at work about feeling down/annoyed? If so, they may have gone and told a boss about it.

It does sound like you're being lined up to be dismissed at this point. Seek a job elsewhere ASAP.

Re: The Work Thread

Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2018 2:35 pm
by K
Sounds like you're in a similar situation to me. My boss was being pretty awful to me - My contract is a lot worse than my coworkers and I get paid a lot less to do a lot more work, and they've basically used it as carte blanche to treat me like dirt. She also pulled me up a few months ago and spent 40 minutes laying into me about every mistake I've ever made at the company, most of which either weren't my fault or things that I had flagged up as issues that I needed support with. I took it up with HR and threatened to quit and they basically did nothing (other than telling my boss that I threw her under the bus). Thankfully my contract expires at the end of next week, so I'm out of here 10 days from now. Annoyingly, I live in Japan, wherein which I need to be in stable employment to maintain a visa. My modelling agency are supposedly gonna cover me when I do leave my company, but I'm not sure how financially or career viable that is.

Re: The Work Thread

Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2018 2:46 pm
by Moggy
One thing I would do is make a note of everything that is going on. Dates/times, what was said, who said it etc. Mark down also the things you have done, what improvements you think you have made, work you have done on top of your general duties, if you stayed later etc.

You might never have to use it, but if all of this comes to a head one day, then having detailed notes on all of this will be much more helpful than relying on your memory. Don’t let them just walk over you, if it all goes tits up and it isn’t your fault, then damn well threaten them with a constructive dismissal tribunal.

Re: The Work Thread

Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2018 2:53 pm
by jawafour
Moggy wrote:One thing I would do is make a note of everything that is going on. Dates/times, what was said, who said it etc. Mark down also the things you have done, what improvements you think you have made, work you have done on top of your general duties, if you stayed later etc...

I'd support this approach, too. I was in a similar situation at one time and it was helpful to have accurate records of exactly what happened and when. It sounds a bit paranoid but, unfortunately, sometimes this approach becomes necessary.

Re: The Work Thread

Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2018 2:57 pm
by Moggy
jawafour wrote:
Moggy wrote:One thing I would do is make a note of everything that is going on. Dates/times, what was said, who said it etc. Mark down also the things you have done, what improvements you think you have made, work you have done on top of your general duties, if you stayed later etc...

I'd support this approach, too. I was in a similar situation at one time and it was helpful to have accurate records of exactly what happened and when. It sounds a bit paranoid but, unfortunately, sometimes this approach becomes necessary.


Yeah I have been there before as well. The notes I had made really helped me feel like I was taking a bit of control over the situation. Ultimately a useless HR department meant that it was all for nothing, but I would certainly have battered my nob of an ex-boss if it had ever gone outside of the company.

Re: The Work Thread

Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2018 3:00 pm
by Jenuall
Qikz wrote:I got told off at work again for something I haven't even been doing. The other boss pulled me into the meeting room and accused me of trying to spread negativity and wanted to ensure I wasn't trying to harm the business. I don't get how they can accuse me of that when I've been working so hard. If I wasn't doing my work I could understand, but I'm trying really hard to not get I to trouble and just do my work. Wtf.


From some of the other posts you've made on here it does sound like you've found yourself in an environment that is not great generally - sorry to hear that.

I would say though that in terms of this post specifically - "getting your job done / working hard" and "spreading negativity" are not necessarily mutually exclusive. For example you could be doing a great job whilst also saying unhelpful things about the business or the team. I'm not saying you are, just that doing a good job at the core of your role doesn't necessarily give people a free pass on other areas where they may need a helpful nudge!

Re: The Work Thread

Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2018 4:01 pm
by Cheeky Devlin
Is there a chance, even a small one, that someone at your work knows about GRcade and has seen your posts in this thread?

I don't think you've said anything bad, but if they say you've been moaning about the company/your work situation online it could come across like that, even if your employer isn't identifiable at all.

Re: The Work Thread

Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2018 4:40 pm
by Death's Head
Worryingly, I agree. If you genuinely feel you've done nothing wrong then it doesn't look good. Is it possible you have a Mr Robot alter ego who strawberry floats things up whilst you think you are working? Is your name Elliot?

Re: The Work Thread

Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2018 5:05 pm
by Drumstick
Qikz, you need to ask them for examples and/or evidence of you "spreading negativity" and whatever other nonsense they are peddling. If they've got nothing, advise them in a professional manner that you will be left with no alternative but to report them to HR if there is another instance of these unsubstantiated accusations which could potentially have a great detriment to your reputation within the company (and therefore diminish your chances at gaining further employment).

You might not care enough to do so, but it should at least get them off your back.

Re: The Work Thread

Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2018 5:15 pm
by Qikz
Drumstick wrote:Qikz, you need to ask them for examples and/or evidence of you "spreading negativity" and whatever other nonsense they are peddling. If they've got nothing, advise them in a professional manner that you will be left with no alternative but to report them to HR if there is another instance of these unsubstantiated accusations which could potentially have a great detriment to your reputation within the company (and therefore diminish your chances at gaining further employment).

You might not care enough to do so, but it should at least get them off your back.


This is the owner of the company saying it to me.

We're a small company.

Re: The Work Thread

Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2018 5:32 pm
by Blue Eyes
Qikz wrote:
Drumstick wrote:Qikz, you need to ask them for examples and/or evidence of you "spreading negativity" and whatever other nonsense they are peddling. If they've got nothing, advise them in a professional manner that you will be left with no alternative but to report them to HR if there is another instance of these unsubstantiated accusations which could potentially have a great detriment to your reputation within the company (and therefore diminish your chances at gaining further employment).

You might not care enough to do so, but it should at least get them off your back.


This is the owner of the company saying it to me.

We're a small company.

You should accuse them of constructive dismissal, the way they're behaving. What a nasty bunch of banana splits you work for.

Re: The Work Thread

Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2018 5:34 pm
by Errkal
Leave as soon as you can, if you aren't looking at leaving you should be, strawberry float them.

Re: The Work Thread

Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2018 6:21 pm
by Qikz
I just don't know what to do. They're the owners of the company and I've always given my absolute all to the company to try and do the best job I possibly can and it seems no matter what I do I can't do anything right. I've got nowhere to turn to and it just makes me feel like gooseberry fool since I can't do anything about it.

I don't understand how they can see how hard I'm working and still think I'm trying to damage the company. I'd be doing everything deliberately wrong if I wanted to do that. It's not easy to look elsewhere in my field either. Jobs are either too far away and/or don't pay enough. I don't want to leave. I really don't.

Re: The Work Thread

Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2018 6:24 pm
by Victor Mildew
Genuine question - do any of them know about this place? Someone might be relaying what you're saying here.

Re: The Work Thread

Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2018 6:35 pm
by smurphy
God help you if they find out about your toilet spycam. :shock:

Re: The Work Thread

Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2018 6:38 pm
by Errkal
Qikz wrote:I just don't know what to do. They're the owners of the company and I've always given my absolute all to the company to try and do the best job I possibly can and it seems no matter what I do I can't do anything right. I've got nowhere to turn to and it just makes me feel like gooseberry fool since I can't do anything about it.

I don't understand how they can see how hard I'm working and still think I'm trying to damage the company. I'd be doing everything deliberately wrong if I wanted to do that. It's not easy to look elsewhere in my field either. Jobs are either too far away and/or don't pay enough. I don't want to leave. I really don't.


They are being banana splits, you should leave if you can, also don't look for the same as you do now, look for a step up, you have experience now as well as some management experience you should be able to make a decent jump with this move.