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by Kezzer » Tue Sep 26, 2017 9:29 am

Turned down the Belfast job. :dread:

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by Rocksleddy » Tue Sep 26, 2017 4:00 pm

For the love of god, that job I was complaining about having done four interviews for got back to me today... and want me to do another interview. Said they have two final candidates and want to talk to me one last time before deciding.

Just make a decision Jesus strawberry floating Christ

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by Green Gecko » Tue Sep 26, 2017 4:44 pm

Surely there is virtually zero risk offering the job to either at this point? Just flip a coin lol

I dunno, e-mail them saying, "I REALLY want this job and I LOVE your company pls thx", that works.

You should get back pay for these interviews.

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by Rocksleddy » Tue Sep 26, 2017 6:59 pm

I strawberry floating should, the amount of hours I've spent prepping and on their interviews and tests probably constitutes a full week of work.

It's driving me a bit crazy, I've given them an ultimatum of early next week to tell me either way if I have the job or not as i can't keep postponing signing a contract for the other place. Haven't gotten back to me yet since i sent it earlier.

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by Green Gecko » Tue Sep 26, 2017 8:23 pm

Generally speaking from a sales perspective people would rather have what they think they can't have or won't get if they don't get their gooseberry fool together.

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by Rocksleddy » Tue Sep 26, 2017 10:36 pm

Yeah they’ve emailed me back now apologising for taking so long and informing me that they’ll get back to me by the end of Friday with an answer one way or the other.

Got the interview set for Friday afternoon, apparently it’s just a quick 15-30 minute chat with a couple more questions for me. God knows what they’ve still to ask me but at least it’ll be over soon enough.

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by Green Gecko » Wed Sep 27, 2017 12:15 am

You're working from heights. Other than a ladder, what do you need?

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by Qikzen » Wed Sep 27, 2017 12:17 am

I am so glad I got my job after 1 interview. Jesus I couldn't have done what you're doing.

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by Rocksleddy » Wed Sep 27, 2017 12:19 am

A pair of balls? Confidence? A helmet? A partner? I give up. All of the above.

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by Green Gecko » Wed Sep 27, 2017 12:25 am

Rocsteady wrote:A pair of balls? Confidence? A helmet? A partner? I give up. All of the above.

Lol, my answer was for real a risk assessment, spatial awareness, steel cap boots and ditto a hard hat.

Think I got it "wrong" though, asked twice just harder the 2nd time followed by an awkward silence like a trick question. I didn't get that job.

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by Rocksleddy » Wed Sep 27, 2017 12:26 am

You gotta fight

For your right

To be an ultimately insignificant part of a giant corporate machine

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by Kezzer » Wed Sep 27, 2017 7:58 am

:toot:

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by Green Gecko » Wed Sep 27, 2017 6:48 pm

Client liaison question.. Do you prefer to be informed at the source by the expert or only passed the most essential details?

I.e. do you prefer to make an informed decision, or simply be told what to do?

Asking for clients that don't like longer emails (200 words or so) versus those with just a single sentence or essentially, "You're mistaken, this is the right information".

How do you compete other than on price alone if you're not giving your customer the impression you know what you're talking about, and am honest? And how do you avoid being curt on the opposite end of the scale?

It's weird because I get plenty of feedback saying thanks for being so informative etc.

I'm trying to break down my info into links to knowledge base articles (does anyone actually click those) and brochures (does anyone actually download and look at the PDF?)

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by Kezzer » Wed Sep 27, 2017 8:40 pm

Green Gecko wrote:Client liaison question.. Do you prefer to be informed at the source by the expert or only passed the most essential details?

I.e. do you prefer to make an informed decision, or simply be told what to do?

Asking for clients that don't like longer emails (200 words or so) versus those with just a single sentence or essentially, "You're mistaken, this is the right information".

How do you compete other than on price alone if you're not giving your customer the impression you know what you're talking about, and am honest? And how do you avoid being curt on the opposite end of the scale?

It's weird because I get plenty of feedback saying thanks for being so informative etc.

I'm trying to break down my info into links to knowledge base articles (does anyone actually click those) and brochures (does anyone actually download and look at the PDF?)


Tricky question! I think it depends, usually if I am doing the digging I prefer to have the information at the source from the expert. However, I often appreciate receiving only the essentials so long as they satisfy the question!

And to be a total hypocrite: I hate crafting long emails! (so much so, I have sent diagrams to get the point across!)

Usually though, with any correspondence I send out I try and do the following:

Recipient: email@address.com
Subject: Grabs recipient’s attention!
Attachments: Things.pdf or overivew.docx


friendly greeting to recipient,

The purpose of the email,

<necessary information>

Short, direct sentences to get the point across and paragraphs with clear, informative topic sentences.
If I have a complicated message that can’t be addressed in a few sentences, I use bullet points and attachments. (why?)

* They’re easy to read
* They help highlight key details
* They prevent your email from looking like a wall of text

</necessary information>

A friendly sign-off.



As longs as the final message is tactful, polite, and effective it will be absolutely fine.

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by Rocksleddy » Wed Sep 27, 2017 9:04 pm

I found when you helped me a little with my website the in-depth information you gave was really useful. I think on a more day to day basis there's a balance to be struck, though, and in your case i would err towards shortening your correspondence.

It's a large part of my job to communicate ideas clearly - if you want you can send me an example email and i'll have a look and shorten/reword it to how i would convey information.

I think Kezzer's example is good, I often use similar tactics.

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by Green Gecko » Wed Sep 27, 2017 10:56 pm

Thanks guys that's really useful. In fact, I may just print that off and force myself to look at it for every email I write until I get the point, lol

Sometimes I use bullet points. I tend to sign off with "next steps: " or "summary" followed by actionable bullets and decisions, for the long emails. But I don't always remember.

The system I use is pretty useful because I can press a button to convert an email into a knowledge base article, and I write such (good I think, I've done blogging before) that I can just make a few edits to make it not specific to the client. Next time, I can just post a link to that information like, "read/forward this when you have a few minutes for a full explanation, any questions just ask".

Other times I think it's good to just read the whole email to extract the 1 thing they want to know. Other time I break it down into quotes and respond to each thing (ugh).

I bring it up because a customer just turned me down because they missed a detail in my email explaining how my solution was better than what they were expecting if I just do this bone thing, needs this simple preparation done that takes 5 minutes, zero cost thing that I do half the time anyway, without which, they (for some reason) thought it was impossible. So it was a bit odd they missed that and wrote off the whole solution. I mentioned it 2 or 3 different places.

For me it works being a bit chattier because I often get into a sales rapport with people who are more conversational. So my best customers tend to be people than businesspeople. Maybe I should save that for after I've secured a sale, so I'm not wasting my time. I've tracked an insane amount of time on emails in the past (hours upon hours per client).

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PostRe: The Work Thread
by Rocksleddy » Fri Sep 29, 2017 3:31 pm

Ohmygod.

Just when I thought the process couldn’t get any more ludicrous, their HR department offered me the job earlier. Then when I queried the fact I was meant to have an interview a bit later in the day they said they weren’t aware - so I’ve now been told the offer was in error and, having done the fifth interview, will have to wait until Monday to hear back if I’ve actually be offered it or not.

Think I strawberry floated the interview a bit today, the questions were basically strawberry floating identical to those asked before so I gave a very similar overview since, y'know, I spoke to the exact same two people last week and already answered all of the questions. strawberry float this gooseberry fool, honestly.

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by Qikzen » Fri Sep 29, 2017 4:53 pm

This entire week has changed the way I view where I work entirely. strawberry float it this is going to sound arrogant but once again I did 30 more tickets than anyone else and I dont think they appreciate just how much effort I put in. Im going to more than subtley ask for an update on my promotion and if they dont give me a clear answer then I think I might have to start looking around if next week is the same.

I feel so stressed out and nobody seems to care. Argh. I want to like working here. I used to love it. Maybe its just the sudden influx of bullshit thats driving me over the edge. Its probably just the monotony of work getting to me so thatll be the same anywhere.

Ill likely get over this but for now im on my way home and I quite frankly dont give a damn. I just want to relax.

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by Tell Karl his brother is dead » Fri Sep 29, 2017 6:30 pm

It sounds like you might be taking on too much and stressing yourself out. There is no point doing 30 more tickets than everyone else if it makes you want to die at the end of the week; you can settle for 5 more tickets, feel better, and still be regarded as a good (the best, by that measure!) performer.

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by Tell Karl his brother is dead » Fri Sep 29, 2017 6:31 pm

...He says, sat in an otherwise empty office at 6.30 on a Friday. :slol: :cry:


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