Brexit

_/\_YUNGSTAR_/\_ wrote:

Benzin wrote:

Blue Eyes wrote:Now May is saying she wants a "deep and special relationship with the EU". Er...

And people wonder why Remainers are so pissed off about all this

That relationship will be under our rules though. Not the EU.

But..... #Remoanersgottaremoan

Moggy wrote:

Rex Kramer wrote:Tariff free access into the single market has to be the line in sand. Anything else would be disastrous to the country, particularly to SMEs with any volume of business in the EU. If it doesn't happen then you can kiss goodbye to Scotland and I think you may also see London making similar noises (unless they swing a special deal for the financial sector).

But the EU will not allow that without freedom of movement. Which Leavers will see as a betrayal and as such May will probably be too scared to agree to.

So we are strawberry floated.

Grumpy David wrote:

Moggy wrote:

Grumpy David wrote:

Qikz wrote:

UKIP's Deputy Chair Suzanne Evans has told BBC Radio 5 live's Emma Barnett that "skilled up" British citizens could replace migrant workers.

The UKIP politician said: “Seventy percent of people in this country want immigration to fall. What about training people in our own country? Let's be more optimistic and just skill up our own.”

Wait... what? Where did that figure come from? Stop pulling figures out of your arse.

Why are we even giving this party air time anymore? They have no MPs in Parliament.

But you know.... ££££Brexiteersgottafuckeverythingupforeveryoneelse

I believe it's from this research from a few months ago:

http://natcen.ac.uk/news-media/press-releases/2016/november/voters-want-uk-to-stay-in-the-eu-single-market-but-be-able-to-control-immigration/

NatCen wrote:Voters want UK to stay in the EU single market but be able to control immigration


Despite their differences many Remain and Leave voters agree on what Brexit should mean

Almost everyone (90%) supports remaining part of the European single market, regardless of how they voted in the EU Referendum, according to a new report published today by NatCen Social Research.

But at the same time as many as seven in ten (70%) think the UK should be able to limit the number of people from the EU who come here to live and work. Indeed, almost three-quarters (74%) believe that potential EU migrants should have to apply to come here in the same way non-EU migrants have to do.

Today’s paper, the most comprehensive study yet undertaken of public attitudes towards the shape that Brexit should take and published as part of the ESRC-funded What UK Thinks: EU project, shows that Leave voters (90% in favour) are almost as keen as Remain voters (94%) on staying in the single market.

Meanwhile, although less than the figure for Leave voters (85%), over half (55%) of Remain supporters are in favour of the UK being able to limit EU immigration.

The results, which come from NatCen’s new methodologically rigorous panel survey, show widespread support both for measures that are often labelled a ‘soft’ Brexit and for those that are widely considered to form part of a ‘hard’ Brexit.

If they are holding up one of those facts as the truth, then they really ought to take another look at the other one.

We could easily spin that as "90% want to remain in the single market according to a UKIP supported poll"!

UKIP.

British public are pro-having cake and pro-eating cake!

It's not an impossible request since it physically could be done, but it's just highly unlikely to be one or the other. Single market tariff free access combined with UK opting out of the free movement of people alongside freedom to make free trade deals with non EU countries and not being a net contributor to the EU budget. Best of both worlds.

Inconvenient facts and convenient facts for UKIP.

_/\_YUNGSTAR_/\_ wrote:

Benzin wrote:

Blue Eyes wrote:Now May is saying she wants a "deep and special relationship with the EU". Er...

And people wonder why Remainers are so pissed off about all this

That relationship will be under our rules though. Not the EU.

But..... #Remoanersgottaremoan

Rex Kramer wrote:

Moggy wrote:

Rex Kramer wrote:Tariff free access into the single market has to be the line in sand. Anything else would be disastrous to the country, particularly to SMEs with any volume of business in the EU. If it doesn't happen then you can kiss goodbye to Scotland and I think you may also see London making similar noises (unless they swing a special deal for the financial sector).

But the EU will not allow that without freedom of movement. Which Leavers will see as a betrayal and as such May will probably be too scared to agree to.

So we are strawberry floated.

Does the Canadian deal require freedom of movement?

_/\_YUNGSTAR_/\_ wrote:

Moggy wrote:

Blue Eyes wrote:I'm sick of Theresa May telling the country to unite and embrace Brexit.

It's astonishing to me that we keep hearing these calls to unify, to "ensure Brexit works!" and "get behind Britain!".

What like the strawberry floating Eurosceptic Tories and UKIP unified with everyone over the last 40 years? Like how Farage tried his best to make EU membership work?

Get strawberry floated you utter cretinous banana splits.

Spoken like a true leftist liberal. When will the
#remoanersgottaremoan stop. YOU lost, get over it.

DML wrote:Who will you vote for now UKIP are irrelevant and unlikely to get another MP?

Grumpy David wrote:

DML wrote:Who will you vote for now UKIP are irrelevant and unlikely to get another MP?

Probably Labour.

_/\_YUNGSTAR_/\_ wrote:

Moggy wrote:

_/\_YUNGSTAR_/\_ wrote:
Democracy is not having to have the same vote over and over until YOU get the result YOU want.

Better cancel any future general elections then. They keep making us vote every 5 years all hoping we make the decision that THEY want. The bastards.

But trolls gotta troll.

Actually, I'd not call you a troll. Just stupid perhaps. But if you have to troll.... carry on.


But..... Remoaners gotta remoan.

Lucien wrote:

Moggy wrote:

Rex Kramer wrote:

Moggy wrote:

Rex Kramer wrote:Tariff free access into the single market has to be the line in sand. Anything else would be disastrous to the country, particularly to SMEs with any volume of business in the EU. If it doesn't happen then you can kiss goodbye to Scotland and I think you may also see London making similar noises (unless they swing a special deal for the financial sector).

But the EU will not allow that without freedom of movement. Which Leavers will see as a betrayal and as such May will probably be too scared to agree to.

So we are strawberry floated.

Does the Canadian deal require freedom of movement?

Does the Canadian deal remove all tariffs and give the same single market access as member states of the EU enjoy?

It removed 98% of tariffs. So yeah, that's a much better deal than ours with forced freedom of movement designed to absorb your country into a political bloc.

Return_of_the_STAR wrote:I would accept the a deal the same as the Canadian one but I doubt that can be ironed out in two years.

more heat than light wrote:So, if remoaners gotta remoan, what do leavers have to do?

Rex Kramer wrote:

Return_of_the_STAR wrote:I would accept the a deal the same as the Canadian one but I doubt that can be ironed out in two years.

Almost certainly not. That's my issue, we're in for at least 3-4 years of utter mayhem if leave without a deal in 2 years time. And in my experience, that's business you won't be getting back easily (if at all).

_/\_YUNGSTAR_/\_ wrote:Oh my. A board warñing for the above.

The liberal leftist are strong in these parts.

Well if you want to live in a world that is one sided. So be it.

But.... #Remoanersgottaremoan.

more heat than light wrote:So, if remoaners gotta remoan, what do leavers have to do?

Moggy wrote:

more heat than light wrote:So, if remoaners gotta remoan, what do leavers have to do?

It looks like they gotta bitch, moan and cry about everything even though they are getting everything they want.

Basically they are toddlers.