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Should the United Kingdom remain a member of the European Union or leave the European Union?

Remain a member of the European Union
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80%
Leave the European Union
57
20%
 
Total votes: 279
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PostRe: The EU Referendum: The UK votes Leave
by Squinty » Thu Feb 02, 2017 7:31 am

White papers get released today. We should have had these a few days ago but that wasn't to be.

I'm guessing ordinary, Joe Blogg's types won't be able to understand it, so I hope there's some quick analysis articles up.

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PostRe: The EU Referendum: The UK votes Leave
by Errkal » Thu Feb 02, 2017 7:31 am

What a strawberry floating Cop out, I don't want to vote for it or defy my beautiful Corbin so I'll be a worthless waster and suddenly develop a cough that prevents me walking through a strawberry floating doorway.

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PostRe: The EU Referendum: The UK votes Leave
by Squinty » Thu Feb 02, 2017 7:39 am

May's Brexit Irish border plan is 'nice words' - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-i ... s-38829372

I shouldn't have posted this cause we don't listen to experts anymore.

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PostRe: The EU Referendum: The UK votes Leave
by Hexx » Thu Feb 02, 2017 8:29 am

Errkal wrote:What a strawberry floating Cop out, I don't want to vote for it or defy my beautiful Corbin so I'll be a worthless waster and suddenly develop a cough that prevents me walking through a strawberry floating doorway.


Her constituancy was something like 90% remain vote as well :slol: :fp: :evil:

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PostRe: The EU Referendum: The UK votes Leave
by Moggy » Thu Feb 02, 2017 8:38 am

Hexx wrote:
Errkal wrote:What a strawberry floating Cop out, I don't want to vote for it or defy my beautiful Corbin so I'll be a worthless waster and suddenly develop a cough that prevents me walking through a strawberry floating doorway.


Her constituancy was something like 90% remain vote as well :slol: :fp: :evil:


Yeah but Corbyn's cock once went 92% inside her and so she had to abstain.

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PostRe: The EU Referendum: The UK votes Leave
by Garth » Thu Feb 02, 2017 9:13 am

Adobe CC Photography price is changing from £8.57 to £10.10 per month on the 6th of March because of the weak pound apparently.

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PostRe: The EU Referendum: The UK votes Leave
by Garth » Thu Feb 02, 2017 9:17 am

Squinty wrote:May's Brexit Irish border plan is 'nice words' - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-i ... s-38829372

I shouldn't have posted this cause we don't listen to experts anymore.


That really is going to be unenforceable. What a mess!

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PostRe: The EU Referendum: The UK votes Leave
by Rocsteady » Thu Feb 02, 2017 9:20 am

Moggy wrote:
Rocsteady wrote:
Rhubarb wrote:
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Rex Kramer wrote:Apologies for being facetious. Regarding your flat, do you live on your own? If so, maybe start looking around for a flat/house share? I had my own flat years ago and got into quite a bit of debt due to the high cost of living alone.


Due to a situation out of my control I was moved from Essex to where I am now and forced to live in a house I hated. The only people I know around here and like enough to ever think about house sharing with are already married. I can't and will not ever choose to live with random people, because I need my own space. I know if I get forced to it I'm strawberry floated either way, but honestly the pricing of house sharing where I live (which is the only area I can really live due to work) is just as bad as living on my own.

I know I've got myself in this situation, but living on my own has made me the happiest I've been in 4 years. The other day I was just sat down with my cat and I felt like smiling, smiling for no reason at all other than the fact I felt happy where I am. I've spent nearly the past 2 years leading up to this point feeling pretty miserable.


Brexit is a spectacular strawberry float up of an own goal, and some goods are going to cost more (or already are), but I would be extremely surprised if it got to the stage where your rent went up to such a significant degree that you couldn't afford it - unless you're literally running on £0 remaining after rent/bills/commute.

Yeah, this. If anything, Brexit will push down the cost of housing.


Maybe. If inflation ramps up and wages continue to stagnate then even if the rent costs slightly less you could still be in a situation where you can't afford the rent anymore.

True. With so many real problems inherent in Brexit this one seems an overreaction though. It's such a mindset that leads to extreme conservatism as you try to maintain your, and consequently society's, status quo.


Also, Labour can strawberry float off - 'opposition'. Corbyn's strawberry floated the country as much as anyone else in this debacle.

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PostRe: The EU Referendum: The UK votes Leave
by Moggy » Thu Feb 02, 2017 9:34 am

Rocsteady wrote:True. With so many real problems inherent in Brexit this one seems an overreaction though. It's such a mindset that leads to extreme conservatism as you try to maintain your, and consequently society's, status quo.


Staydead’s reaction was a little OTT, but if he is forced to move back with his dad and evil stepmother then I can see why he posted so passionately.

It is going to be interesting when the price rises start really hitting the poor Brexit supporters. I doubt they will see it as their own fault, it will always be somebody else’s fault, but the anger is going to be pretty explosive.

Also, Labour can strawberry float off - 'opposition'. Corbyn's strawberry floated the country as much as anyone else in this debacle.


Corbyn is an absolute banana split, but for those of us that hate the Tory party and have a “rebel” Labour MP it is going to be a difficult decision in 2020 (if we have to wait that long!). Hopefully Corbyn gets ousted in the next year or so and we can get an effective opposition in place.

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PostRe: The EU Referendum: The UK votes Leave
by Blue Eyes » Thu Feb 02, 2017 9:41 am

I can't believe this is actually happening. It might well be perverse but I can't wait to see these morons who voted for it to suffer. strawberry floating idiots deserve all the misery that's coming to them. :twisted:

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PostRe: The EU Referendum: The UK votes Leave
by OrangeRKN » Thu Feb 02, 2017 9:55 am

OrangeRakoon wrote:I expect 338 MPs to vote to invoke article 50 and 312 to vote against it. Anything else is undemocratic and a clear violation of the will of the British people!


MPs backed the European Union Bill by 498 votes to 114 on Wednesday night


Our democracy is a sham

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PostRe: The EU Referendum: The UK votes Leave
by Moggy » Thu Feb 02, 2017 10:00 am

OrangeRakoon wrote:
OrangeRakoon wrote:I expect 338 MPs to vote to invoke article 50 and 312 to vote against it. Anything else is undemocratic and a clear violation of the will of the British people!


MPs backed the European Union Bill by 498 votes to 114 on Wednesday night


Our democracy is a sham


You don’t get it, THE PEOPLE HAVE SPOKEN, GET OUT NOW! TRAITOR MPS VOTING AGAINST IT!

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PostRe: The EU Referendum: The UK votes Leave
by Hexx » Thu Feb 02, 2017 10:32 am

twitter.com/BBCNormanS/status/827097905483960320



twitter.com/paulwaugh/status/827095193862156288



Her office say it was a tweet scheduled to go out at 6.02pm

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PostRe: The EU Referendum: The UK votes Leave
by OrangeRKN » Thu Feb 02, 2017 10:39 am

I'm in the Reading West constituency, so it annoys me when I look at the brexit vote and see:

BBC wrote:Alok Sharma (Reading West, Con) voted for the bill.

Before the referendum, Alok Sharma wanted the UK to remain in the EU.


Reading as a whole, according to official figures which differentiated by local authority, voted to remain.

Although in fairness, according to this estimate the Reading West vote was narrowly in favour of leave at 53%, and it was Reading East that swung the local authority in favour of remain. That's still a very narrow majority to change a representatives vote on an issue.

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PostRe: The EU Referendum: The UK votes Leave
by Moggy » Thu Feb 02, 2017 11:33 am

OrangeRakoon wrote:I'm in the Reading West constituency, so it annoys me when I look at the brexit vote and see:

BBC wrote:Alok Sharma (Reading West, Con) voted for the bill.

Before the referendum, Alok Sharma wanted the UK to remain in the EU.


Reading as a whole, according to official figures which differentiated by local authority, voted to remain.

Although in fairness, according to this estimate the Reading West vote was narrowly in favour of leave at 53%, and it was Reading East that swung the local authority in favour of remain. That's still a very narrow majority to change a representatives vote on an issue.


Actually, looking at the referendum as a whole, 53% is a massive majority and you are against freedom and democracy if you even dare question it.

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PostRe: The EU Referendum: The UK votes Leave
by Trelliz » Thu Feb 02, 2017 11:40 am

Moggy wrote:
OrangeRakoon wrote:I'm in the Reading West constituency, so it annoys me when I look at the brexit vote and see:

BBC wrote:Alok Sharma (Reading West, Con) voted for the bill.

Before the referendum, Alok Sharma wanted the UK to remain in the EU.


Reading as a whole, according to official figures which differentiated by local authority, voted to remain.

Although in fairness, according to this estimate the Reading West vote was narrowly in favour of leave at 53%, and it was Reading East that swung the local authority in favour of remain. That's still a very narrow majority to change a representatives vote on an issue.


Actually, looking at the referendum as a whole, 53% is a massive majority and you are against freedom and democracy if you even dare question it.


Yeah, the people have spoken, after all. If you don't like it then go back to where you came fr....oh, hang on that doesn't work.

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PostRe: The EU Referendum: The UK votes Leave
by KK » Thu Feb 02, 2017 11:41 am

Garth wrote:Adobe CC Photography price is changing from £8.57 to £10.10 per month on the 6th of March because of the weak pound apparently.

At some point all these increases are going to have an impact. I'm noticing and I can afford it because I have a decent buffer zone. What about those that can't afford it? You put £3 extra a week on food, £3 on Sky, £30 on insurance, £40 on gas etc. & before you know it the year has cost you £1000 more than it did 12 months ago. Your Weetabix have become Basics, your flight seats economy, your Sky terrestrial and your living standards have dropped substantially.

And who are people going to blame for that? Because no matter what government you put in charge you can't then reverse it overnight. Even if Brexit is eventually a success that is not going to be immediate. Some people don't seem to be coming to the realisation that it's going to be difficult for a number of years. Maybe an entire decade.

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PostRe: The EU Referendum: The UK votes Leave
by Moggy » Thu Feb 02, 2017 11:47 am

Trelliz wrote:
Moggy wrote:
OrangeRakoon wrote:I'm in the Reading West constituency, so it annoys me when I look at the brexit vote and see:

BBC wrote:Alok Sharma (Reading West, Con) voted for the bill.

Before the referendum, Alok Sharma wanted the UK to remain in the EU.


Reading as a whole, according to official figures which differentiated by local authority, voted to remain.

Although in fairness, according to this estimate the Reading West vote was narrowly in favour of leave at 53%, and it was Reading East that swung the local authority in favour of remain. That's still a very narrow majority to change a representatives vote on an issue.


Actually, looking at the referendum as a whole, 53% is a massive majority and you are against freedom and democracy if you even dare question it.


Yeah, the people have spoken, after all. If you don't like it then go back to where you came fr....oh, hang on that doesn't work.


It's too harsh a punishment to send people back to Reading. :dread:

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PostRe: The EU Referendum: The UK votes Leave
by Moggy » Thu Feb 02, 2017 11:55 am

KKLEIN wrote:Some people don't seem to be coming to the realisation that it's going to be difficult for a number of years. Maybe an entire decade.


We never really recovered from the credit crunch of 10 years ago. Add in Brexit, the governments plan to turn us into a tax haven and the prospect of a Tory government until at least 2025 and I think even a decade is being optimistic for the average British person. The real poor in society are utterly strawberry floated.

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PostRe: The EU Referendum: The UK votes Leave
by bear » Thu Feb 02, 2017 12:19 pm

Garth wrote:
Squinty wrote:May's Brexit Irish border plan is 'nice words' - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-i ... s-38829372

I shouldn't have posted this cause we don't listen to experts anymore.


That really is going to be unenforceable. What a mess!


It's a game of chicken at this stage. The government's in Dublin and London both know there has to be some form of border controls introduced but don't want to be the ones to admit that as Unionists/Nationalists will try to make hay by blaming the Irish/British for the economic hardship a border will cause.


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