Brexit

PostRe: The EU Referendum: The UK votes Leave by KK » Mon Jan 30, 2017 10:09 pm

An interesting change of heart in tomorrow's business section of The Times:

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Rocsteady wrote:
Grumpy David wrote:
Qikz wrote:Trump Debate today.

Tory MP Philip Davies says Donald Trump is "a democratically elected president of our closest ally and our single biggest trading partner" who is fulfilling his election promises.

Single biggest trade partner, yeah, after the EU you stupid banana split.

The EU is made up of many different countries, not one single country.

He didn't mention a country, he mentioned a trading partner. The EU is a single trading bloc.

I think the words "Single Partner" is referring to individual countries not trading blocs. When a sentence isn't obviously clear, I prefer to assume the interpretation which best fits the point being made.

Grumpy David wrote:
Rocsteady wrote:
Grumpy David wrote:
Qikz wrote:Trump Debate today.

Tory MP Philip Davies says Donald Trump is "a democratically elected president of our closest ally and our single biggest trading partner" who is fulfilling his election promises.

Single biggest trade partner, yeah, after the EU you stupid banana split.

The EU is made up of many different countries, not one single country.

He didn't mention a country, he mentioned a trading partner. The EU is a single trading bloc.

I think the words "Single Partner" is referring to individual countries not trading blocs. When a sentence isn't obviously clear, I prefer to assume the interpretation which best fits the point being made.

No, you assume the interpretation which best fits your agenda.

We'll be dealing with the EU as a single trading entity - thus it will be our largest trading partner.

Grumpy David wrote:
Rocsteady wrote:
Grumpy David wrote:
Qikz wrote:Trump Debate today.

Tory MP Philip Davies says Donald Trump is "a democratically elected president of our closest ally and our single biggest trading partner" who is fulfilling his election promises.

Single biggest trade partner, yeah, after the EU you stupid banana split.

The EU is made up of many different countries, not one single country.

He didn't mention a country, he mentioned a trading partner. The EU is a single trading bloc.

I think the words "Single Partner" is referring to individual countries not trading blocs. When a sentence isn't obviously clear, I prefer to assume the interpretation which best fits the point being made.

Except single partner is not what it says unless you remove words and stuff.

It says single biggest trading partner, meaning the biggest of your trading partners which would be the eu that trade a bloc and are thus a single trading partner.

So today is meant to be the debate about the triggering of Article 50, but they're filibustering it by talking about the stupid Trump visit (although maybe that was scheduled for this morning and it overran). It's been brought up once by David Davis who said "DO YOU NOT TRUST THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE?"

strawberry float off with that Buzzphrase you banana split.

You'd have thought the situation across the pond would make politicians wary of going down the populist route a the moment.

Qikz wrote: It's been brought up once by David Davis who said "DO YOU NOT TRUST THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE?"

Looking at the state of the UK and the US at the moment? No David, I don't really trust the will of the people, especially when it comes down to a minority of the people voting for populist bullshit.

He concludes: "I commend this bill to the house - trust the people".

He's a strawberry floating parrot. He literally isn't answering any questions, but keeps going back to trust the people. :lol:

This is going to pass isn't it. strawberry floating hell.

Qikz wrote:
This is going to pass isn't it. strawberry floating hell.

We have known it would pass ever since the Supreme Court made its judgement.

The Tories are behind it, indeed I think the only Tory that says he will vote against it is Ken Clarke. That alone means it will pass, before you even take into account Corbyn insisting that Labour MPs vote for it as well.

Things might get interesting when it heads to the House of Lords, but don’t hold your breath, they are very unlikely to reject it and even if they did the government will just force it through without them.

Never know the Lords may save us like they have a few times in the last year, if anything they seem more in touch with the world than anyone else!

He attacks the EU Leave campaign's "false promise of £350m a week for the NHS" but says that the referendum result must be respected.

He attacks the EU Leave campaign's "false promise of £350m a week for the NHS" but says that the referendum result must be respected.

Ken, that alone is the reason why it should not be respected. The referendum was won on strawberry floating lies.

Errkal wrote:Never know the Lords may save us like they have a few times in the last year, if anything they seem more in touch with the world than anyone else!

General convention is to not vote down what was included in the manifesto so whilst Tories don't have a majority in the Lords, it's still likely to sail through.

Lucien wrote:I kind of hope the lords don't let it pass, because then there'll be an appetite to get rid of them too.

strawberry float me, me and Lucien agree on something in this thread. :shock:

Sir Keir Starmer says Labour amendments to the bill will seek to "ensure full tariff- and impediment-free access to the single market" and regular consultation with Parliament on the Brexit process.

The shadow exiting the EU secretary adds that MPs have had "EU nationals in tears" at constituency surgeries, unsure of their future status in the UK.

The government should "act unilaterally" to reassure them, he tells the House.

Sir Keir also says Labour wants all existing workers' rights and environmental protection to be respected.

And he says the PM has no authority to "rip up our economic and social model and turn the UK into a tax haven economy"

Finally, Labour said something good for once.

Qikz wrote:
Sir Keir Starmer says Labour amendments to the bill will seek to "ensure full tariff- and impediment-free access to the single market" and regular consultation with Parliament on the Brexit process.

The shadow exiting the EU secretary adds that MPs have had "EU nationals in tears" at constituency surgeries, unsure of their future status in the UK.

The government should "act unilaterally" to reassure them, he tells the House.

Sir Keir also says Labour wants all existing workers' rights and environmental protection to be respected.

And he says the PM has no authority to "rip up our economic and social model and turn the UK into a tax haven economy"

Finally, Labour said something good for once.

But Labour have said they'll vote it through regardless so they can shoot out whatever rhetoric they want, it's completely pointless.

Conservative MP and staunch pro-European Kenneth Clarke is up next.

He says it will not surprise fellow MPs that "I intend to vote against the second reading of this bill". He will also support the SNP's amendment.

Reflecting that his political career ran parallel with UK membership of the EU, he argues that the UK joined what was then the European Economic Community because "our economy was becoming a laughing stock" and other European countries seemed to have a better way of doing things.

Membership "restored to us our national self-confidence" and gave the UK "a role in the world", he insists.

He also claims that the UK has "benefitted more from the single market than any other EU state".

The veteran MP and former minister says the plan to leave the EU is "simply baffling every friend" of the UK throughout the world.

strawberry floating hell. A Tory even speaking sense.

PostRe: The EU Referendum: The UK votes Leave by KK » Tue Jan 31, 2017 1:57 pm

I presume everyone has already noticed supermarket prices rising quite considerably these last few weeks. Spent £1 extra on just 4 items in Sainsbury's this morning (doughnuts 10p added, TTD fish fingers 30p, eggs 10p, and Wensleydale cheese 50p!). Weetabix have also said they'll be raising the price a few pence later in the year.

It doesn't seem to matter if it's a completely UK-made product either, they're just slapping rises on everything.

You stick £3 extra or so on a weekly shop & you're looking at £156 extra a year. That makes a lot of difference.

Taking back control! :datass:

He's not wrong either.
The UK has by far gotten a better deal out of the EU than anyone with the possible exception of French farmers. Other countries would have loved the power and vetos we wielded and the arrangements we had.

Ken Clarke sat down to applause after his speech just there. Maybe we're not as doomed as we think.

Yup, stuff was cheap because we were part of it, now the quality of life people have enjoyed is going to drastically suffer but dont worry the general mouthy gobsheit idiot will put it all down to the EU picking us and not letting us be "great" as well as it being the fault of all foreign people which I presume will be the next thing the Mail blames everything on and gets people against.

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