Brexit

PostRe: Brexit by **Moggy** » Sun May 07, 2017 11:23 am

If the official Labour stance was the same as Corbyn's view then the party would have torn itself apart even more than it already has. Most Labour MPs are pro EU.

PostRe: Brexit by KK » Sun May 07, 2017 11:41 am

Well when it comes to the Euro, the UK (and in particular Gordon Brown) history proved us to be on the right side of it, when it comes to unemployment in the EU outside of Germany and the UK, Jeremy Corbyn and others were again proved correct. Only time itself will now prove whether we were on the right side once more when it comes to leaving it completely.

It's been a constant, Macron being the most recent, to state the 'EU has to reform, it has to change' and year in and year out it never does.

PostRe: Brexit by **Squinty** » Sun May 07, 2017 1:29 pm

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/may/07/the-great-british-brexit-robbery-hijacked-democracy?CMP=twt_a-technology_b-gdntech

A bit long winded, but an interesting article.

PostRe: Brexit by **Denster** » Sun May 07, 2017 10:53 pm

Meep wrote:It is pointless. Any PM acting in the national interest fallowing in the wake of the referendum result would be desperately attempting to reconcile people to the Norway option, it's the only thing realistically achievable with the EU in the limited timespan allowed that protects our existing trading arrangements. Unfortunately, May is a Conservative and to be a Conservative is to spend one's life wrestling for control within the party with an endless line of pretenders and back stabbers whilst trying to appease a braying mob of ideological zealots who would massively damage the electability of the entire party if they ever got into power (if May wants a reminder of what that might look like she need only to look to the opposite benches). So, instead of acting in the national interest she is game playing to keep the tories in power by appeasing the hard right (which previously manifested in UKIP).

It may look like the Conservatives are going full steam ahead at the moment but they are only heading for a train crash. I would ordinarily rejoice at this prospect as they are a mean spirited, small minded party that delights in trading the welfare of citizens and social cohesion for the paltry rewards of a few tax cuts but in this instance we are all along for the ride and will share in any disaster they bring.

Enough dancing around - tell us what you really think about the Tories.

PostRe: Brexit by **massimo** » Mon May 08, 2017 2:15 am

Squinty wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/may/07/the-great-british-brexit-robbery-hijacked-democracy?CMP=twt_a-technology_b-gdntech

A bit long winded, but an interesting article.

The more I read the more my stomach was churning. Horrifying reading.

PostRe: Brexit by **Rightey** » Mon May 08, 2017 9:34 pm

Squinty wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/may/07/the-great-british-brexit-robbery-hijacked-democracy?CMP=twt_a-technology_b-gdntech

A bit long winded, but an interesting article.

That was a great article, thanks for sharing!

Pretty terrifying what's going on with these private intel companies that are now able to give such small actors such immense power. :dread:

PostRe: Brexit by **massimo** » Tue May 09, 2017 6:58 pm

Rightey wrote:
Squinty wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/may/07/the-great-british-brexit-robbery-hijacked-democracy?CMP=twt_a-technology_b-gdntech

A bit long winded, but an interesting article.

That was a great article, thanks for sharing!

Pretty terrifying what's going on with these private intel companies that are now able to give such small actors such immense power.

I've since deleted my barely used Facebook account and am going to create a new more anonymous twitter account. Pass me the tinfoil.

PostRe: Brexit by **Meep** » Tue May 09, 2017 7:10 pm

Welcome to the club. IMO, my view on Facebook and other such sites could be reduced to: "Would you be okay with informing the government every time you make a new friend?" If the answer is no, don't use Facebook. I recently started using a VPN and anti-tracking measures because I noticed advertisements having an uncanny ability to present things relevant to my recent activities; which freaked me out a little.

PostRe: Brexit by **Rightey** » Tue May 09, 2017 9:22 pm

Just to let you know, some VPN's retain logs of everything their users do...

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/ ... ond-hacker

Also, if someone truly wanted to find out what you were doing it could still do so even if you were using a VPN, and they didn't have access to the logs...

https://security.stackexchange.com/ques ... in-traffic

Sadly, the internet is not really the place for privacy. There are definitely steps you can take to protect yourself to some degree but nothing will be perfect.

PostRe: Brexit by **Moggy** » Wed May 10, 2017 6:15 pm

It's now time to completely stop free movement.

http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/st ... ing-london

PostRe: Brexit by **Lagamorph** » Wed May 10, 2017 7:01 pm

Moggy wrote:It's now time to completely stop free movement.

http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/st ... ing-london

Wow, he even wants limits on people already in the UK moving to London. He wants the M25 turning into a literal border. :lol:

PostRe: Brexit by **That** » Wed May 10, 2017 7:05 pm

You didn't read the whole article, did you?

PostRe: Brexit by **Lagamorph** » Wed May 10, 2017 7:16 pm

I don't have the time for that. There's games to play and articles can only be as long as the next loading screen.

PostRe: Brexit by **Moggy** » Wed May 10, 2017 7:34 pm

Laga

PostRe: Brexit by **Lagamorph** » Wed May 10, 2017 8:39 pm

There are probably people who'd be all for the idea anyway.

PostRe: Brexit by KK » Sun May 14, 2017 7:46 pm

Is Paul Dacre the most dangerous man in Britain?

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2017/ ... daily-mail

15 hour days... :dread:

PostRe: Brexit by **Lex-Man** » Sun May 14, 2017 7:55 pm

Lagamorph wrote:There are probably people who'd be all for the idea anyway.

I'm up for that. Keep all you weridos outside the M25. We can re-brand London as one giant liberal elite safe space.

PostRe: Brexit by **Return_of_the_STAR** » Sun May 14, 2017 8:58 pm

KK wrote:Is Paul Dacre the most dangerous man in Britain?

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2017/ ... daily-mail

15 hour days...

Whenever I read articles about the mails influence they always seem to miss out the most important part, the DM website and app. It's one of the world's most visited media outlets. 8th I believe in the entire world which is pretty amazing as a country of only 60 million people.

PostRe: Brexit by **Oblomov Boblomov** » Mon May 15, 2017 8:35 am

Return_of_the_STAR wrote:
KK wrote:Is Paul Dacre the most dangerous man in Britain?

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2017/ ... daily-mail

15 hour days...

Whenever I read articles about the mails influence they always seem to miss out the most important part, the DM website and app. It's one of the world's most visited media outlets. 8th I believe in the entire world which is pretty amazing as a country of only 60 million people.

Though the Mail’s website, with its sidebar of celebrity shame, is the most visited news site in the world

From that article

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PostRe: Brexit by **Return_of_the_STAR** » Mon May 15, 2017 8:38 am

Oblomov Boblomov wrote:
Return_of_the_STAR wrote:
KK wrote:Is Paul Dacre the most dangerous man in Britain?

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2017/ ... daily-mail

15 hour days...

Whenever I read articles about the mails influence they always seem to miss out the most important part, the DM website and app. It's one of the world's most visited media outlets. 8th I believe in the entire world which is pretty amazing as a country of only 60 million people.

Though the Mail’s website, with its sidebar of celebrity shame, is the most visited news site in the world

From that article .

Too be honest the article was so bloody long I scan read a lot of it. Usually though it gets no mention. I think it's far more of an influence than the paper now. A lot of people use it for the sports and celeb gossip but end up reading the 'news' (propaganda) stories.

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