Brexit

Don't forget the cost for all of the airships that will be patrolling the Irish sea.

Errkal wrote:

Squinty wrote:

lex-man wrote:Apperently, we're going to need a shed load more tax inspectors if we go full brexit.

https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk/ec ... ould-need-£450m-and-5000-extra-staff-case-‘no-deal’-brexit

I would be interested to know exactly how much this is going to cost. Not just the exit bill, whatever it may be, but infrastructure changes. I'd imagine a lot of money would be needed besides that.

Not just the money but the time to building infrastructure at borders like Dover where it already mega cramped and airports etc as well as finding physical space for such things.

I imagine with planning, design, build etc it would take friggin ages before we have a chance of actually controlling anything coming through.

Question is, are we going to leave all these changes to 2019 or are we going to start now?

I don't fully understand the idea behind 'we won't have a transition deal if we don't get a trade deal'. It's such a monumentally stupid statement and provides no clarity for the very people who need it.

People thinking we are heading to a bump in the road need to get their head out of the sand.

Not saying it will happen but we could very conceivably become Greece.

DML wrote:Not saying it will happen but we could very conceivably become Greece.

We are going to get hot weather, 5 drinks for the price of 1, beautiful beaches and a Parthenon?

Sign me up.

DML wrote:People thinking we are heading to a bump in the road need to get their head out of the sand.

Not saying it will happen but we could very conceivably become Greece.

If things are handled extremely poorly, I would say this is a possibility.

I can't see it doing anything other than increasing the deficit. But it's worth it to get rid of dem Muslims and immigruntz.

Hexx wrote:

ENEMIES OF THE PEOPLE!

Damn kids wanting a bright future, why back in my day you worked in a mine and lived in a box, and you were happy about it! - Old Mike, Canvey Island

That headline maybe worse than Crush The Saboteurs. That headline is simple fascism. Disgusting.

Benzin wrote:Damn kids wanting a bright future, why back in my day you worked in a mine and lived in a box, and you were happy about it! - Old Mike, Canvey Island

I just laughed in front of everyone in the office. Thanks

STOP HAVING FREEDOM OF SPEECH YOU BASTARDS.

Educated people speaking out about Brexit. Who would have thought.

I always did prefer What Happened When Keith Met Marianne to Romeo and Juliet.

Hexx wrote:

Poor baby student feeling intimidated for voting leave

Moggy wrote:Don't forget the cost for all of the airships that will be patrolling the Irish sea.

At least the border won't be an issue for too long.
http://m.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/brexit-impact-on-northern-ireland-could-sway-border-poll-result-survey-36261684.html

And on the last point it shows that if Northern Ireland was badly affected by the UK's departure from the EU, more people would vote for a united Ireland.

If a border poll was conducted today, a majority would still opt for Northern Ireland staying in the UK with 55% in favour of remaining and 33% against. This is a marginally smaller majority based on previous polling.


However, if Northern Ireland bears the brunt of a tough Brexit, those figures change from 54% in favour and an 11 point rise to 46% saying it should join with the republic.

And in the case of a soft Brexit, which would benefit Northern Ireland, 62% of people would be for Northern Ireland remaining as part of the UK.

For what its worth when the BBC ran a poll about a United Ireland in September 2016 the results were 63% against, 22% for joining the great and glorious Republic of Ireland*. Different polling company this time so that may explain some of the result but it does highlight how silly the DUPs pro-Brexit stance was and just how badly people think the negotiations are going.



*My wording, not the BBCs. Obviously.

I mean I'd be tempted to vote for Reading to become part of Ireland if I had the choice

twitter.com/thehistoryguy/status/923285727856807937

Rex Kramer wrote:Article 50 shouldn't have been invoked until all that planning had been done. The sheer lack of understanding by those in government has amazed me. You would expect those in the civil service to know just how long it takes to actually get stuff done.

It shouldn’t have even been put to a referendum without some kind of basic research into the short, medium and long term costs, infrastructure requirements etc.

It’s like DO YOU WANT TO BUY A HOUSE YES/NO? Except you’re not allowed to look at the house, visit the house, ask how much the house costs or where it is or how much money you have saved and also the house might not exist.

Even now, over a year later, the public aren’t even allowed to see the government’s own research.

Gideon wrote:

Rex Kramer wrote:Article 50 shouldn't have been invoked until all that planning had been done. The sheer lack of understanding by those in government has amazed me. You would expect those in the civil service to know just how long it takes to actually get stuff done.

It shouldn’t have even been put to a referendum without some kind of basic research into the short, medium and long term costs, infrastructure requirements etc.

It’s like DO YOU WANT TO BUY A HOUSE YES/NO? Except you’re not allowed to look at the house, visit the house, ask how much the house costs or where it is or how much money you have saved and also the house might not exist.

Even now, over a year later, the public aren’t even allowed to see the government’s own research.

I agree with this. More specifically, because of the NI/ROI border.

Bear posted polls on United Ireland on the previous page which are interesting to me. I'm slightly worried about this as small pockets of NI are still staunchly Protestant and would not like this one bit. I hope it is something that happens, but we need to give it a lot more time. I was raised in a Protestant household and some of my family will never accept it.

I don't think it's hyperbole to suggest that Brexit could destabilise the peace process. And for that reason, it should never have been called. The UK government has a duty to perform in mediating peace, and they are doing things which make that position harder to maintain.

But here we are, over a year on

bear wrote:

Moggy wrote:Don't forget the cost for all of the airships that will be patrolling the Irish sea.

At least the border won't be an issue for too long.
http://m.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/brexit-impact-on-northern-ireland-could-sway-border-poll-result-survey-36261684.html

And on the last point it shows that if Northern Ireland was badly affected by the UK's departure from the EU, more people would vote for a united Ireland.

If a border poll was conducted today, a majority would still opt for Northern Ireland staying in the UK with 55% in favour of remaining and 33% against. This is a marginally smaller majority based on previous polling.


However, if Northern Ireland bears the brunt of a tough Brexit, those figures change from 54% in favour and an 11 point rise to 46% saying it should join with the republic.

And in the case of a soft Brexit, which would benefit Northern Ireland, 62% of people would be for Northern Ireland remaining as part of the UK.

For what its worth when the BBC ran a poll about a United Ireland in September 2016 the results were 63% against, 22% for joining the great and glorious Republic of Ireland*. Different polling company this time so that may explain some of the result but it does highlight how silly the DUPs pro-Brexit stance was and just how badly people think the negotiations are going.



*My wording, not the BBCs. Obviously.

It would be amazing if the Tory party and UKIP went down in history as the people that broke up the UK.

Hexx wrote:

twitter.com/philipjcowley/status/923459067212910593

"How do we win back the youth vote?"

"Tell them they're wrong and we'll put them on a register if they don't agree with us?"

"Brilliant."

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po ... 20566.html

Do you want your Brexit hard or super hard?