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Should the United Kingdom remain a member of the European Union or leave the European Union?

Remain a member of the European Union
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80%
Leave the European Union
57
20%
 
Total votes: 279
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Memento Mori
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PostRe: Brexit
by Memento Mori » Sun Nov 26, 2017 8:27 pm


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PostRe: Brexit
by Photek » Mon Nov 27, 2017 9:15 am

Not sure if it's being mentioned but we have something of a mini crisis politically over here at the moment, dubious claims relating to an email 2 years ago (I sh*t you not) might lead to the dissolving of our government and an election in late December. We'll know for certain by tomorrow night. Absolutley mental, I blame Sinn Fein and Fine Fail to be honest.

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PostRe: Brexit
by Moggy » Mon Nov 27, 2017 9:45 am

Apparently Kate Hoey (pro Brexit Labour MP) said on Radio 4 this morning that Ireland will have to pay for the border. :lol:

Oh Kate, did nobody ever tell you not to go full Trump?

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PostRe: Brexit
by Hyperion » Mon Nov 27, 2017 9:57 am

She's not too bright. She went to Switzerland the other week to see how a border could be implemented for Ireland

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PostRe: Brexit
by Lagamorph » Mon Nov 27, 2017 10:08 am

I can see three possible outcomes in December,



1) NI is allowed to stay in the customs union and a hard sea border is established between NI and the rest of the UK. If this happens Scotland, and most likely Gibraltar, will immediately demand the same arrangement and May will have little valid reason to deny it, but she'll do so anyway. May will be accused of giving in to the EU and will also face being remembered as the Prime Minister who commenced the break up of the United Kingdom. Most likely this will cause the hardcore right to accelerate plans to oust May from power.
Even if this scenario comes to pass and Ireland vote to allow trade talks to progress there's a very good chance that other countries in the EU will veto it as they won't want parts of the UK in the customs union while other parts aren't (Everyone seems focused on whether Ireland will use their veto with little attention seemingly being paid to the fact that 26 other countries can also do the same thing). An arrangement like that would allow companies based in England and Wales to just set up cheap, tiny satellite offices in NI/Scotland/Gibraltar to trade through and essentially have tariff free trade via the back door.



2) The entire UK stays in the customs union. Of the 3 possible outcomes this is by far the best one for the country, but also the least likely to occur. The hardcore Brexiters in the Conservatives, along with the right wing press, will fully turn on May and accuse her of giving in to the EU and betraying the will of the people. The hardcore right in the conservatives will accelerate plans to oust May from power asap, even more aggressively than scenario 1.



3) No progress is made and the December deadlines pass with no progress made. This is probably the most likely outcome and likely the one May will be most eager to follow as it allows her to placate the right wing press and the hard right of her party, and so allow her to cling to power for a little longer. The right wing press praise May and loudly declare that the EU will cave in.
Come March 2018 the Conservatives will double down and lock the UK onto course for a no deal hard Brexit whilst the EU just continues to maintain the position they've had since the start of negotiations. At this point the real economic fallout of Brexit begins to make itself known as companies begin to implement contingency plans to relocate operations out of the UK, and the pound takes a further drop to below 1 Euro to the pound.

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PostRe: Brexit
by Squinty » Mon Nov 27, 2017 10:42 am

That Kate Hoey seems like an utter melter.

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PostRe: Brexit
by Moggy » Mon Nov 27, 2017 10:47 am

Squinty wrote:That Kate Hoey seems like an utter melter.


She doesn’t represent her constituents very well.

In her borough of Lambeth an estimated 78% voted to remain in the EU.

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PostRe: Brexit
by Moggy » Mon Nov 27, 2017 11:06 am


:lol:

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PostRe: Brexit
by bear » Mon Nov 27, 2017 11:12 am

Squinty wrote:That Kate Hoey seems like an utter melter.

Pure headcase.
5th October.


26th October.




Proper headscratcher there alright.

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PostRe: Brexit
by Moggy » Mon Nov 27, 2017 12:25 pm

bear wrote:
Squinty wrote:That Kate Hoey seems like an utter melter.

Pure headcase.
5th October.


26th October.




Proper headscratcher there alright.


It’s because the IRA don’t exist any more and NOW I KNOW HOW IT FEELS WHEN THE BNP TALK gooseberry fool.

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PostRe: Brexit
by Hexx » Mon Nov 27, 2017 12:28 pm


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PostRe: Brexit
by Lagamorph » Mon Nov 27, 2017 12:31 pm

Hexx wrote:

Of course not, no such studies exist after all ;)

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Squinty
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PostRe: Brexit
by Squinty » Mon Nov 27, 2017 1:02 pm

Legal action it is.

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PostRe: Brexit
by DML » Mon Nov 27, 2017 1:51 pm

How on earth do they this is going to work? :lol: :fp:

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PostRe: Brexit
by Squinty » Mon Nov 27, 2017 4:30 pm

The guardian seems to be reporting differently. It will be interesting to see what forms the papers take.

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PostRe: Brexit
by Moggy » Mon Nov 27, 2017 4:32 pm

DML wrote:How on earth do they this is going to work? :lol: :fp:


1. We leave the EU

2. We restore the British Empire

3. We make boat loads of cash

4. Rule Britannia, Britannia rules the waves

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PostRe: Brexit
by Squinty » Mon Nov 27, 2017 4:39 pm

Tally ho lads! Pip pip!

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PostRe: Brexit
by Moggy » Mon Nov 27, 2017 4:44 pm

Viz :lol:


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PostRe: Brexit
by Squinty » Mon Nov 27, 2017 4:53 pm

Hey, investment! Some good news.

http://www.bbc.com/news/business-42131742

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PostRe: Brexit
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