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Should the United Kingdom remain a member of the European Union or leave the European Union?

Remain a member of the European Union
200
78%
Leave the European Union
56
22%
 
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PostRe: Brexit
by KK » Mon Sep 11, 2017 5:21 pm

YouGov wrote:New YouGov Eurotrack data reveals that it is not just the British public that want the UK to leave the European Union; French people want Brexit, too.

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A plurality of people in France say they would rather that Britain left the EU than stayed in it (38% to 32%). Of the six EU nations surveyed, only in France and Britain did more people say they wanted Britain to leave than stay (in Britain those figures were 47% and 43% respectively).

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By contrast, over six in ten (62%) Danes want Britain to stay in the EU, as do a majority of Swedes (56%) and Finns (51%), and approaching half (49%) of Germans. Support for Britain leaving rested at just 18-25% in these countries.

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Should I stay or should I go now?

British Brexiteers are evenly split 48% vs 47% on whether the UK should leave the EU immediately or only once Brexit negotiations are complete. French Brexit supporters are also closely split, with 46% favouring immediate withdrawal and 50% wanting negotiations to conclude first.

By contrast, Brexit supporters in Germany and the Nordic nations are all much more likely to say that the UK should only cut loose from the EU once Brexit negotiations are complete (53-60%) than leave immediately (31-40%).

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But how would people in Europe feel if Britain changed its mind about Brexit and decided to remain in the EU after all? In Germany, the primary emotional response would be positive. Asked to choose up to three emotions, the most common responses would be “relieved” (23%), “pleased” (22%) and “delighted” (15%). (Relief and pleasure were also the top two responses among Nordic EU members).

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Among French people, the primary reaction would be the Gallic shrug: indifference. Close to a quarter (23%) of French people would be apathetic about Britain’s decision to remain in the EU fold, while relief, pleasure and disappointment are all tied for second place (on 15%) were the UK to stay.

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PostRe: Brexit
by Moggy » Mon Sep 11, 2017 5:23 pm

We've been utter pains in the arses to the EU for over 30 years. I'm not surprised the French just want us to strawberry float off. :lol:

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PostRe: Brexit
by bear » Mon Sep 11, 2017 6:06 pm

KK wrote:I mean people will interpret those figures how they see fit, but the fact New York has fallen 24, Boston 30 and San Francisco 31 (both down a whopping 10 places in the rankings) is the story there, as is Asia in general. That is a sign of a declining superpower.

Absolutely. Considering how big a deal was made of Trump's status as a successful businessman those numbers are outright grim. Los Angeles is down 22 points while Chicago and Washington are both down 40. I'm nothing like an expert on how these ratings work but even a pleb like me could tell you those are bad numbers.

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PostRe: Brexit
by Lagamorph » Mon Sep 11, 2017 6:36 pm

Moggy wrote:We've been utter pains in the arses to the EU for over 30 years. I'm not surprised the French just want us to strawberry float off. :lol:

In fairness, the French are hardly much better sometimes. Isn't it only France that supports the monthly move of the entire EU parliament to Strasbourg whilst everyone else would rather stop the whole thing and just stay in Brussels?
Not to mention the insane farming subsidies France pulls out.

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PostRe: Brexit
by KK » Mon Sep 11, 2017 6:50 pm

The gulf between London and New York is also the widest its been since they started doing those rankings in 2007, though that's more down to the decline of New York than London itself pulling away.

London has also surpassed New York in terms of being more culturally diverse, with 37% of Londoners now being born outside the UK, compared to New York City’s 36 (though maybe that'll change post Brexit).

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PostRe: Brexit
by Lagamorph » Mon Sep 11, 2017 9:30 pm

The debate over the EU Withdrawal bill is currently scheduled to last until at least Midnight.

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PostRe: Brexit
by Squinty » Mon Sep 11, 2017 10:01 pm

Lagamorph wrote:The debate over the EU Withdrawal bill is currently scheduled to last until at least Midnight.


Sucks to be them. They are missing the Nintendo direct.

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PostRe: Brexit
by Lagamorph » Tue Sep 12, 2017 1:42 am

Bill passed by 326 to 290

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-41235522

Seven Labour MPs defied Jeremy Corbyn's order to oppose the bill - Ronnie Campbell, Frank Field, Kate Hoey, Kelvin Hopkins, John Mann, Dennis Skinner and Graham Stringer.
No Conservatives voted against it.

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PostRe: Brexit
by andretmzt » Tue Sep 12, 2017 5:45 am

I wonder if some people will still be wanking over Dennis Skinner every time he opens his mouth now?

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PostRe: Brexit
by Moggy » Tue Sep 12, 2017 6:40 am

I assume they were all from strong Leave areas?

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PostRe: Brexit
by Squinty » Tue Sep 12, 2017 9:15 am

Squinty wrote:
Lagamorph wrote:The debate over the EU Withdrawal bill is currently scheduled to last until at least Midnight.


Sucks to be them. They are missing the Nintendo direct.


They weren't. You Muppet.

Well, there's a surprise. I knew this would go through.

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PostRe: Brexit
by Moggy » Tue Sep 12, 2017 9:32 am

If Theresa May is now Henry VIII, does that mean Boris is Thomas Cromwell and we can look forward to him losing his head in the near future?

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PostRe: Brexit
by Lagamorph » Tue Sep 12, 2017 9:34 am

Boris lost his head decades ago.

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PostRe: Brexit
by Rex Kramer » Tue Sep 12, 2017 9:59 am

Errkal wrote:Favourite Farage moment recently



EU states working together, if only there was a kind of union for that.

I think the sort of union he's talking about hit the buffers round about 1944.

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PostRe: Brexit
by Moggy » Tue Sep 12, 2017 12:25 pm



:dread:

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PostRe: Brexit
by Hexx » Tue Sep 12, 2017 12:27 pm

He wants a British Empire approah

The only problem with the EU is that it's run by upperty foreigners!



It's done now. Brexit shows that as long as you go jingoistic, small minded idiots will blindly and wildly vote for you

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PostRe: Brexit
by Moggy » Tue Sep 12, 2017 1:43 pm

What a delightful country we are.


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PostRe: Brexit
by Hexx » Tue Sep 12, 2017 10:16 pm


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PostRe: Brexit
by Hexx » Wed Sep 13, 2017 10:21 am



1. Our intel is that May is going to announce in her speech that she's to give formal notice to leave the EEA.

2. And, in an attempt to by-pass the Commission, extend an invitation to all the EEA members to enter into direct talks with the UK

3. This would be to create a new EEA Agreement, under a different name, without the four freedoms ... just trading rules.

4. She's not going to walk away, but it will be a take it or leave it offer. Either take it or we walk.

5. It would appear they are going with the Legatum template.

https://t.co/V3Uuvo6EUQ

6. The idea that existing EEA members will seek to weaken their agreement is delusional. Close to insane.

7. If this is the UK proposal then May will end up with egg n her face and we'll be back to square one - or walking away with nothing.

8. Government clearly misses the point that any deal must be substantially more than just trade.

9. The EU is not about to unpick the entire EEA agreement for the sole benefit of the UK. What is May smoking?

10. EEA agreement is configurable for the UK but anything beyond that is howling mad.

11. More to the point, the EU could not be any clearer that no talks on trade etc will happen until divorce terms agreed.

12. This smells like an attempt to circumvent the entire process. A refusal to engage. It will not succeed.

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PostRe: Brexit
by Rex Kramer » Wed Sep 13, 2017 10:24 am

I hope Grumpy David adjusts his investment portfolio ahead of this one as there'll be bumpy times ahead!

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