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Should the United Kingdom remain a member of the European Union or leave the European Union?

Remain a member of the European Union
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78%
Leave the European Union
56
22%
 
Total votes: 256
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PostRe: Brexit
by KK » Fri May 19, 2017 1:53 pm

The way we have to pay such a premium for quality food in this country has always irked me anyway. You go to Italy, you buy some tomatoes (maybe on the vine, maybe not) they're great. Here? They're not just tomatoes, oh no. They're "Taste The Difference" and it's going to cost for 3 strawberry floating quid to taste the bloody difference. The rest of you plebs can do with that flavourless, watery rubbish we're selling. Not to worry though, at least they're British.

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PostRe: Brexit
by Errkal » Fri May 19, 2017 1:55 pm

KK wrote:The way we have to pay such a premium for quality food in this country has always irked me anyway. You go to Italy, you buy some tomatoes (maybe on the vine, maybe not) they're great. Here? They're not just tomatoes, oh no. They're "Taste The Difference" and it's going to cost for 3 strawberry floating quid to taste the bloody difference. The rest of you plebs can do with that flavourless, watery rubbish we're selling. Not to worry though, at least they're British.


That would be because it is out of seasons and we dont have the climate to produce all yeah round.

If we ate food that was in season and grown within our limited we wouldn't have such issues.

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PostRe: Brexit
by Moggy » Fri May 19, 2017 2:03 pm

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KK wrote:The way we have to pay such a premium for quality food in this country has always irked me anyway. You go to Italy, you buy some tomatoes (maybe on the vine, maybe not) they're great. Here? They're not just tomatoes, oh no. They're "Taste The Difference" and it's going to cost for 3 strawberry floating quid to taste the bloody difference. The rest of you plebs can do with that flavourless, watery rubbish we're selling. Not to worry though, at least they're British.


That would be because it is out of seasons and we dont have the climate to produce all yeah round.

If we ate food that was in season and grown within our limited we wouldn't have such issues.


We haven't been able to feed ourselves for well over 100 years now. If we couldn't grow enough to feed the population in 1900, there is no chance of us ever managing to do it again unless we kill off over half of the country.

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PostRe: Brexit
by KK » Fri May 19, 2017 2:06 pm

But the price and tier system never reflects the seasons anyway. We always have to pay more money for the quality that is often standard in other parts of the world, partly because everything has been packaged up and branded. This glossified fruit and veg is a very British phenomenon.

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PostRe: Brexit
by Lucien » Fri May 19, 2017 2:11 pm

KK wrote:The way we have to pay such a premium for quality food in this country has always irked me anyway. You go to Italy, you buy some tomatoes (maybe on the vine, maybe not) they're great. Here? They're not just tomatoes, oh no. They're "Taste The Difference" and it's going to cost for 3 strawberry floating quid to taste the bloody difference. The rest of you plebs can do with that flavourless, watery rubbish we're selling. Not to worry though, at least they're British.


Food prices have come way down though, we're very lucky. Not that it really matters I guess, because all the savings probably go on house prices and mortgages instead.

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PostRe: Brexit
by KK » Fri May 19, 2017 2:16 pm

There was even a story earlier this week saying many ASDA stores have now stopped selling loose fruit and veg, which is just ridiculous.

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PostRe: Brexit
by Errkal » Fri May 19, 2017 2:20 pm

I'm very tempted to start using my local greengrocer, there is one I pass every day going to work and they are way way cheaper than Tesco etc.

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PostRe: Brexit
by lex-man » Fri May 19, 2017 8:05 pm

There is a little market stall near where I live and they sell fruit and about a quarter of the supermarkets price. I always buy from them.

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PostRe: Brexit
by Lagamorph » Sat May 20, 2017 9:49 pm

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PostRe: Brexit
by Garth » Sat May 20, 2017 9:56 pm

He wants to destroy the EU? WTF? Mind your own business you old twat. Looking forward to the day he kicks the bucket.

Of course, Russia is probably involved in some way. strawberry floating depressing to see people trying to breed division in Europe - have they learned nothing from the past?

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PostRe: Brexit
by Moggy » Sat May 20, 2017 10:01 pm

lex-man wrote:There is a little market stall near where I live and they sell fruit and about a quarter of the supermarkets price. I always buy from them.


I hope they sell things in decent ENGLISH pounds and ounces and not FRENCH kg. :x

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PostRe: Brexit
by Meep » Sun May 21, 2017 9:54 pm

I believe it was the Russians who coined the term "useful idiot", or in other words an agent who is not aware of the goal for which they are being used. Farage is a fairly classic example. He probably genuinely thinks getting rid of the EU is a good. It probably never crossed his minds that he is being used as an agent to weaken the west and destroy its resolve and ability to carry out sanctions against Russia or offer military resistance to land grabs. Trump is another useful idiot. He probably doesn't actually know or believe he is a Russian agent at all, but he has been used as one nonetheless. By assisting his rise to the presidency Putin has ensured that Russia's biggest rival is headed by a total incompetent and its political system is paralysed by constant crisis.

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PostRe: Brexit
by Osito » Mon May 22, 2017 6:07 am

Here (in China), lots more food is sold loose, and is, for the most part a lot cheaper*.

Hardly any packaged fruit or veg, loose eggs, rice, etc. Not many tins either, and I still haven't seen a tin opener being sold anywhere. Live fish, crabs, etc. in the supermarkets too.

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*though there are lots of reasons for that

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PostRe: Brexit
by Moggy » Mon May 22, 2017 10:09 am

On the subject of the EU, the Tory party is now to the right of Marine Le Pen.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/201 ... ade-error/

How's that domino effect that will collapse the EU working out Leavers?

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PostRe: Brexit
by Grumpy David » Mon May 22, 2017 10:28 am

Tory party was always to the right of the French national front since they're a left wing party economically. They're more like the French BNP, another example of a left wing party who can best described as "old school labour with added racism".




http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/05/20/theresa-may-brussels-must-pay-brexit-bill-billions-pounds/

EU liable for a Brexit bill too it seems.


Will be interesting to see how the funding gap is plugged, well Germany contribute more or will the free riders receive less?

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PostRe: Brexit
by Moggy » Mon May 22, 2017 10:33 am

I said to the right on the EU.

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PostRe: Brexit
by Return_of_the_STAR » Mon May 22, 2017 11:02 am

Grumpy David wrote:http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/05/20/theresa-may-brussels-must-pay-brexit-bill-billions-pounds/

EU liable for a Brexit bill too it seems.


Will be interesting to see how the funding gap is plugged, well Germany contribute more or will the free riders receive less?


I just can't believe that it isn't set out in the EU membership law who pays for what when a member country wants to leave the eu. I can see the argument from both sides but I can't believe that when they put into law the process for leaving many years ago that they also didn't put into law how it is paid for.

For example there are many private membership clubs that when you join will state that you have to pay an exit fee, or administration costs etc but these are set out in a contract and you agree to them. The company doesn't just make it up when you say that you want to leave.

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PostRe: Brexit
by Lagamorph » Mon May 22, 2017 3:44 pm

Return_of_the_STAR wrote:
Grumpy David wrote:http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/05/20/theresa-may-brussels-must-pay-brexit-bill-billions-pounds/

EU liable for a Brexit bill too it seems.


Will be interesting to see how the funding gap is plugged, well Germany contribute more or will the free riders receive less?


I just can't believe that it isn't set out in the EU membership law who pays for what when a member country wants to leave the eu. I can see the argument from both sides but I can't believe that when they put into law the process for leaving many years ago that they also didn't put into law how it is paid for.

For example there are many private membership clubs that when you join will state that you have to pay an exit fee, or administration costs etc but these are set out in a contract and you agree to them. The company doesn't just make it up when you say that you want to leave.

Nobody really expected anyone to be monumentally stupid enough to invoke Article 50.

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PostRe: Brexit
by Drumstick » Mon May 22, 2017 4:02 pm

When was the last time a member state formally exited the EU? Are we the first?

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PostRe: Brexit
by Moggy » Mon May 22, 2017 4:04 pm

Drumstick wrote:When was the last time a member state formally exited the EU? Are we the first?


Yes. And I'd imagine the last.


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