Brexit

gooseberry fool, ill conceived idea that has no thought or preparation put into it. 1 year to go lads! Transitional arrangement not even fully confirmed.

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So David Davis indicated this morning that the government would ignore a vote by MPs to remain in a customs union.

It's unclear if this means that the government would actively continue negotiations in the basis of no customs union or if it simply means the government would continue to say that is the best option whilst begrudgingly negotiating for a customs union.

I'd hope it's the latter but if it's the former....strawberry floating hell. Could they even do that? Could the government just outright ignore an order from Parliament to negotiate entry into a customs union?

Lagamorph wrote:So David Davis indicated this morning that the government would ignore a vote by MPs to remain in a customs union.

It's unclear if this means that the government would actively continue negotiations in the basis of no customs union or if it simply means the government would continue to say that is the best option whilst begrudgingly negotiating for a customs union.

I'd hope it's the latter but if it's the former....strawberry floating hell. Could they even do that? Could the government just outright ignore an order from Parliament to negotiate entry into a customs union?

I am not sure if they can ignore Parliament, but it is nice to know that we are fully re-establishing Parliamentary sovereignty following the Brexit vote.

Putting our sovereignty back where it should be, in the back pockets of half a dozen tax dodging Tory donators.

I think they could try it, but they wouldn't get very far with it.

And this is what happens when a minority government pretends they rule the roost, it ends in them getting pushed back on everything.

DML wrote:And this is what happens when a minority government pretends they rule the roost, it ends in them getting pushed back on everything.

Yeah, the government should be ridiculously easy to defeat at the moment, especially on Brexit issues. There are a fair few Tories that will rebel and the DUP are likely to throw their toys out of the pram if they don’t get everything that they want. Labour, Lib Dems and the SNP should then be able to crush the government quite easily.

Labour are the big stumbling block there though.

Moggy wrote:

DML wrote:And this is what happens when a minority government pretends they rule the roost, it ends in them getting pushed back on everything.

Yeah, the government should be ridiculously easy to defeat at the moment, especially on Brexit issues. There are a fair few Tories that will rebel and the DUP are likely to throw their toys out of the pram if they don’t get everything that they want. Labour, Lib Dems and the SNP should then be able to crush the government quite easily.

Labour are the big stumbling block there though.

Its in Labour's best interests to destroy the government, more so than to protect Brexit. It'll get them in power.

Corbyn wants Brexit badly though and he's not going to do anything that puts it too much at risk while there's still time to reverse the decision.

DML wrote:

Moggy wrote:

DML wrote:And this is what happens when a minority government pretends they rule the roost, it ends in them getting pushed back on everything.

Yeah, the government should be ridiculously easy to defeat at the moment, especially on Brexit issues. There are a fair few Tories that will rebel and the DUP are likely to throw their toys out of the pram if they don’t get everything that they want. Labour, Lib Dems and the SNP should then be able to crush the government quite easily.

Labour are the big stumbling block there though.

Its in Labour's best interests to destroy the government, more so than to protect Brexit. It'll get them in power.

And yet they don’t seem to be doing it.

House of Lords is really hilarious.

All them leavers wanting more sovereignty, and this is it in action. I love it.

Only want it if it's the RIGHT sovereignty you see...

http://www.businessinsider.com/the-eu-i ... ?r=UK&IR=T

I don't even care anymore

Alternative customs arrangements for the Irish border either don't exist, have not been invented, or have not been negotiated, and thus Britain will stay inside the EU customs union post-Brexit, Credit Suisse says.

Prime Minister Theresa May doesn't really have a choice, the bank's PowerPoint slideshow says.

Leaving the customs union is unacceptable to the EU, Northern Ireland, Ireland and a majority of UK's parliament.

Thus we're heading for a soft Brexit, whether you like it or not.

http://www.businessinsider.com/credit-s ... sue-2018-4

twitter.com/SkyNewsBreak/status/989535962169520128

But what about the Will of the Peebles?

twitter.com/jamesmb/status/989466896822079488

"Britain will be affected if the government gets its wish to exit the customs union" = Nothing to do with us guv, that's yer governments fault.

Bunch of banana splits.

Moggy wrote:

twitter.com/jamesmb/status/989466896822079488

It’s the fact that they have to point out spain and Italy are part of the eu to get more outrage as they realise it might cost more for a holiday.

Lagamorph wrote:

Alternative customs arrangements for the Irish border either don't exist, have not been invented, or have not been negotiated, and thus Britain will stay inside the EU customs union post-Brexit, Credit Suisse says.

Prime Minister Theresa May doesn't really have a choice, the bank's PowerPoint slideshow says.

Leaving the customs union is unacceptable to the EU, Northern Ireland, Ireland and a majority of UK's parliament.

Thus we're heading for a soft Brexit, whether you like it or not.

http://www.businessinsider.com/credit-s ... sue-2018-4

twitter.com/SkyNewsBreak/status/989535962169520128

Let's be honest here. This is the only real outcome.