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Should the United Kingdom remain a member of the European Union or leave the European Union?

Remain a member of the European Union
222
80%
Leave the European Union
57
20%
 
Total votes: 279
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Squinty
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PostRe: Brexit
by Squinty » Fri Nov 10, 2017 8:22 am


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Moggy
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PostRe: Brexit
by Moggy » Fri Nov 10, 2017 8:39 am

Garth wrote:
The EU is demanding Britain accept that Northern Ireland may need to remain inside the European customs union and single market after Brexit in order to avoid “a hard border on the island of Ireland”.

The explicit mention of an “all-island” approach by Dublin and Brussels directly contradicts the UK position and will infuriate the Democratic Unionist party, on whose votes Theresa May’s government depends for a parliamentary majority at Westminster.

The European Commission on Wednesday circulated an update on negotiations, seen by the Financial Times, which concludes that the avoidance of “regulatory divergence” on the island of Ireland is “essential” to protect the peace process.

“It consequently seems essential for the UK to commit to ensuring that a hard border on the island of Ireland is avoided, including by ensuring no emergence of regulatory divergence from those rules of the internal market and the customs union,” the paper states.

The commission adds that the regulatory arrangements “are (or may be in the future) necessary for meaningful North-South co-operation, the all-island economy and the protection of the Good Friday Agreement”.

https://www.ft.com/content/9e11bdcc-c58 ... 2b2cb39656


So Northern Ireland and Grimsby get to stay? :slol:

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PostRe: Brexit
by Moggy » Fri Nov 10, 2017 8:40 am

Squinty wrote:http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-theresa-may-article-50-reversal-misleading-public-author-lord-kerr-claims-a8046676.html

LOL Theresa pls


That guy has been saying that for ages, there’s not much to stop us reversing Brexit if the government decided to.

Again I don’t think they will, but the option is still there.

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Lagamorph
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PostRe: Brexit
by Lagamorph » Fri Nov 10, 2017 8:42 am

Jesus strawberry floating Christ at today's Express front page,

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This goes beyond irresponsible and misleading.

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Garth
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PostRe: Brexit
by Garth » Fri Nov 10, 2017 8:47 am

More for the NHS!

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Errkal
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PostRe: Brexit
by Errkal » Fri Nov 10, 2017 8:52 am

OMG this brexit gooseberry fool is really strawberry floating everything, lets make the gooseberry fool stain idiots thing it is OK with an really really big number then they will see the rise on costs and go "dats oK we wil Save lods wHen we leev!"

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Ad7
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PostRe: Brexit
by Ad7 » Fri Nov 10, 2017 8:57 am

Lagamorph wrote:Jesus strawberry floating Christ at today's Express front page,

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This goes beyond irresponsible and misleading.


Holy gooseberry fool, not a single article on Princess Diana or Madeleine McCann :o

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Photek
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PostRe: Brexit
by Photek » Fri Nov 10, 2017 9:02 am

Moggy wrote:
Garth wrote:
The EU is demanding Britain accept that Northern Ireland may need to remain inside the European customs union and single market after Brexit in order to avoid “a hard border on the island of Ireland”.

The explicit mention of an “all-island” approach by Dublin and Brussels directly contradicts the UK position and will infuriate the Democratic Unionist party, on whose votes Theresa May’s government depends for a parliamentary majority at Westminster.

The European Commission on Wednesday circulated an update on negotiations, seen by the Financial Times, which concludes that the avoidance of “regulatory divergence” on the island of Ireland is “essential” to protect the peace process.

“It consequently seems essential for the UK to commit to ensuring that a hard border on the island of Ireland is avoided, including by ensuring no emergence of regulatory divergence from those rules of the internal market and the customs union,” the paper states.

The commission adds that the regulatory arrangements “are (or may be in the future) necessary for meaningful North-South co-operation, the all-island economy and the protection of the Good Friday Agreement”.

https://www.ft.com/content/9e11bdcc-c58 ... 2b2cb39656


So Northern Ireland and Grimsby get to stay? :slol:

Here's my problem with the DUP, that majority in Northern Ireland voted remain, but the DUP would be so arse pained to be in anything that is different to England that it's willingly accepting an economic down turn and it is NOT the "will of the people". If Northern Ireland stays in the EU nothing changes other than the economy not being as hard hit, what exactly is the problem?

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Rex Kramer
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PostRe: Brexit
by Rex Kramer » Fri Nov 10, 2017 9:05 am

Ad7 wrote:
Lagamorph wrote:Jesus strawberry floating Christ at today's Express front page,

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This goes beyond irresponsible and misleading.


Holy gooseberry fool, not a single article on Princess Diana or Madeleine McCann :o

At least they managed one of the holy trinity by putting a bullshit weather story on the front page.

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Quantum Name
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PostRe: Brexit
by Quantum Name » Fri Nov 10, 2017 9:06 am

still wrote:
Hyperion wrote:There's very little waste in council departments, they're chronically underfunded


If you believe that you believe anything! I worked in Local Authority for 25 years. The waste is absolutely scandalous.


Which local authority? Which 25 year period?

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Return_of_the_STAR
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PostRe: Brexit
by Return_of_the_STAR » Fri Nov 10, 2017 9:15 am

romeo G. Detlev Jr. wrote:
still wrote:
Hyperion wrote:There's very little waste in council departments, they're chronically underfunded


If you believe that you believe anything! I worked in Local Authority for 25 years. The waste is absolutely scandalous.


Which local authority? Which 25 year period?


The waste was ridiculous but I believe the cuts have gone too far now. There will still be waste as there is in every business where someone working there isn’t invested in it because they are just an employee but there really isn’t money around now. Sure you will still see money spent on things that a lot of the public shout and say it’s a waste of money, we don’t need that etc as that’s have authorities do when they are lead by politicians who are trying to win votes and keep party members happy. However they are really struggling. My local county council has just announced that every employee will have to take a day off unpaid leave before next April but you could probably walk into their offices and find a heater on full blast in a room that’s not being used or something. But that’s because #humans.

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PostRe: Brexit
by Tafdolphin » Fri Nov 10, 2017 9:26 am

Interesting and not at all relevant fact: I once worked at a council in Australia and they spent over $10 000 on a Christmas fete no-one attended. There was a bouncy castle.

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Quantum Name
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PostRe: Brexit
by Quantum Name » Fri Nov 10, 2017 9:31 am

Tafdolphin wrote: a Christmas fete no-one attended.


Tafdolphin wrote:There was a bouncy castle.


This should go in the conspiracies thread

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Hyperion
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PostRe: Brexit
by Hyperion » Fri Nov 10, 2017 9:35 am

still wrote:
Hyperion wrote:There's very little waste in council departments, they're chronically underfunded


If you believe that you believe anything! I worked in Local Authority for 25 years. The waste is absolutely scandalous.


I've worked in a local authority for the last 5 years so I think I know what I'm talking about

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Moggy
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PostRe: Brexit
by Moggy » Fri Nov 10, 2017 9:45 am

Lagamorph wrote:Jesus strawberry floating Christ at today's Express front page,

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This goes beyond irresponsible and misleading.


Their readers will lap that gooseberry fool up.

Depressing.

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PostRe: Brexit
by Lagamorph » Fri Nov 10, 2017 9:45 am

Hyperion wrote:
still wrote:
Hyperion wrote:There's very little waste in council departments, they're chronically underfunded


If you believe that you believe anything! I worked in Local Authority for 25 years. The waste is absolutely scandalous.


I've worked in a local authority for the last 5 years so I think I know what I'm talking about

If I've learned anything from past dealings it's that nobody working at a local authority knows what they're talking about.

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Hyperion
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PostRe: Brexit
by Hyperion » Fri Nov 10, 2017 9:49 am

Lagamorph wrote:
Hyperion wrote:
still wrote:
Hyperion wrote:There's very little waste in council departments, they're chronically underfunded


If you believe that you believe anything! I worked in Local Authority for 25 years. The waste is absolutely scandalous.


I've worked in a local authority for the last 5 years so I think I know what I'm talking about

If I've learned anything from past dealings it's that nobody working at a local authority knows what they're talking about.


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PostRe: Brexit
by Moggy » Fri Nov 10, 2017 10:02 am

I wondered how the Express got their figure and so looked at the article.

The study on the costs of EU membership, by leading City analyst Bob Lyddon, strongly supports the view of Brexit campaigners that the UK should not pay the EU a big divorce bill of up to £78billion.

Mr Lyddon’s analysis takes into account the money paid directly to the EU budget each week.

The Office for National Statistics says this is £267million once the UK’s rebate is paid back to us and money spent by the EU on projects here is included.

However, he has also added £12billion a year lost to the Exchequer through legal tax avoidance schemes which result from Britain being a member of the EU.

Multinational companies such as Google and Amazon run their finances through Ireland, Holland and Luxembourg and the only way these loopholes can be closed is by the UK leaving the bloc.

Mr Lyddon has also calculated that the annual net cost of EU migrants – once the tax they pay is deducted from benefits paid out – is £30billion a year.

His figure excludes tariff payments collected by the EU from the rest of the world, which will instead go to the Treasury when Britain is out.

There are also extra payments to the EU such as the £2billion given by British taxpayers to its foreign aid budget which are not officially designated as payments to Brussels.


strawberry floating hell. :lol:

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Rex Kramer
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PostRe: Brexit
by Rex Kramer » Fri Nov 10, 2017 10:05 am

Well, putting 'Mr Lyddon randomly punched away at his calculator for a couple of minutes, added a couple of zeros and ran with that number' as an explanation probably wouldn't even wash with your average Express reader.

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PostRe: Brexit
by Moggy » Fri Nov 10, 2017 10:14 am

When in doubt, blame immigrants and Ireland.


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