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Should the United Kingdom remain a member of the European Union or leave the European Union?

Remain a member of the European Union
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79%
Leave the European Union
54
21%
 
Total votes: 260
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PostRe: Brexit
by Hexx » Mon Nov 13, 2017 12:02 pm

We're getting no deal, while Arch Brexitters pat themselves on the back for how strong they've been in the face of EU 'threats' and 'demands'

Such are their broken personalties that any price will be worth paying so they can feel like "big men" or "victors" who should the establishment.

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PostRe: Brexit
by Rocsteady » Mon Nov 13, 2017 12:11 pm

Tafdolphin wrote:
Lagamorph wrote:David Davis dismisses the EU's two-week deadline for Britain to set out 'divorce' bill commitment

David Davis has dismissed the two-week deadline set by the chief EU Brexit negotiator for the UK setting out how it will meet its financial obligations.

The Brexit Secretary laughed in an interview when he was asked about the deadline set out by Michel Barnier on Friday.

He said the real deadline was in December and warned the EU not to expect a figure or a formula by which the UK’s obligations would be calculated.


lol

Quality bants from big man David.

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PostRe: Brexit
by Return_of_the_STAR » Mon Nov 13, 2017 12:20 pm

The thing is the government taking out of the eu with no deal isn’t the what the ‘will of the people’ want. They keep hiding behind this phrase but I can guarantee the majority want a deal. A lot of people voting to leave did so because they were told repeatedly that we could negotiate a free trade deal without free movement of people. That’s what a lot of people wanted. If the government doesn’t achieve that then it is no longer carrying out what the people voted for.

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PostRe: Brexit
by Errkal » Mon Nov 13, 2017 12:23 pm

Return_of_the_STAR wrote:The thing is the government taking out of the eu with no deal isn’t the what the ‘will of the people’ want. They keep hiding behind this phrase but I can guarantee the majority want a deal. A lot of people voting to leave did so because they were told repeatedly that we could negotiate a free trade deal without free movement of people. That’s what a lot of people wanted. If the government doesn’t achieve that then it is no longer carrying out what the people voted for.

The vote was super vague so leave voters voted for whatever the government says they voted for, any personal reasons are irrelevant as you couldn't express it in the vote and as such the vote can be hijacked as it has for any cause the person in power wants it to mean.

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PostRe: Brexit
by Karl » Mon Nov 13, 2017 12:27 pm

Return_of_the_STAR wrote:The thing is the government taking out of the eu with no deal isn’t the what the ‘will of the people’ want. They keep hiding behind this phrase but I can guarantee the majority want a deal. A lot of people voting to leave did so because they were told repeatedly that we could negotiate a free trade deal without free movement of people. That’s what a lot of people wanted. If the government doesn’t achieve that then it is no longer carrying out what the people voted for.

I agree completely, but the minority of people who have wanted no deal all along will disingenuously screech about "democracy!!!" loudly enough that most MPs will be terrified to stand up and say this.

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PostRe: Brexit
by Photek » Mon Nov 13, 2017 1:05 pm

Things are looking quite grim regarding getting a trade deal at the moment... how on earth did we get here?

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PostRe: Brexit
by Errkal » Mon Nov 13, 2017 1:12 pm

Photek wrote:Things are looking quite grim regarding getting a trade deal at the moment... how on earth did we get here?


Do you want someone more in-depth than, banana splits, racist and we'll meaning but misinformed people?

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PostRe: Brexit
by Photek » Mon Nov 13, 2017 1:12 pm

No, that'll do Errkal. :lol:

I'm getting so triggered by the comments under this story! :x :fp:

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-41961412

-If there is no deal, then we just leave with no deal.
Good riddance to bad rubbish.

-The UK sized hole in the EU accounts is going to be hard to fill.
I cant see the EU lasting more than 10-15years max.

-No surprise here. The EU are trying to blackmail the UK and the UK is standing fast. The stonewalling by the EU is the main reason there would not be a deal. They do not care what is good for their businesses or people, only what is good for the EU commission and the political elite.

-Ireland should vote to leave with us

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PostRe: Brexit
by Squinty » Mon Nov 13, 2017 1:28 pm

Those BBC news comments are cancerous as strawberry float.

Ireland should just leave with us!!!!!

:dread: :dread: :fp:

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PostRe: Brexit
by Photek » Mon Nov 13, 2017 1:36 pm

What I don't understand is that 90% of the comments are pro brexit, why on earth is that?

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PostRe: Brexit
by Hexx » Mon Nov 13, 2017 1:47 pm

Photek wrote:No, that'll do Errkal. :lol:

I'm getting so triggered by the comments under this story! :x :fp:

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-41961412

-If there is no deal, then we just leave with no deal.
Good riddance to bad rubbish.

-The UK sized hole in the EU accounts is going to be hard to fill.
I cant see the EU lasting more than 10-15years max.

-No surprise here. The EU are trying to blackmail the UK and the UK is standing fast. The stonewalling by the EU is the main reason there would not be a deal. They do not care what is good for their businesses or people, only what is good for the EU commission and the political elite.

-Ireland should vote to leave with us


Just you wait until they start pushing for a formal national "Independence Day" every year

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PostRe: Brexit
by Blue Eyes » Mon Nov 13, 2017 1:48 pm

Photek wrote:What I don't understand is that 90% of the comments are pro brexit, why on earth is that?

Brexit voters don't work because pesky foreigns took their jobs so they just sit around on the Internet all day posting shite.

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PostRe: Brexit
by Squinty » Mon Nov 13, 2017 1:49 pm

Photek wrote:What I don't understand is that 90% of the comments are pro brexit, why on earth is that?


It's probably the first time in their entire lives that they feel the 'elite' are listening to them.

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PostRe: Brexit
by lex-man » Mon Nov 13, 2017 1:53 pm

I think I might actually start applying for jobs outside the country.

Denmark are looking for people.

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PostRe: Brexit
by Rocsteady » Mon Nov 13, 2017 1:57 pm

Bit boring though. Nightmare of a language too.

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PostRe: Brexit
by lex-man » Mon Nov 13, 2017 2:08 pm

Yes, but this country seems to be running towards a situation where we may have problems bring in food, flights might be grounded. The economy will totally go to gooseberry fool. While I don't think these are the most likely outcome, they seem to be becoming more likely.

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PostRe: Brexit
by Lucien » Mon Nov 13, 2017 2:51 pm

lex-man wrote:Yes, but this country seems to be running towards a situation where we may have problems bring in food, flights might be grounded. The economy will totally go to gooseberry fool. While I don't think these are the most likely outcome, they seem to be becoming more likely.


If you genuinely think that'll happen I think you need a rest from Brexit news.

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PostRe: Brexit
by Errkal » Mon Nov 13, 2017 2:56 pm

Lucien wrote:
lex-man wrote:Yes, but this country seems to be running towards a situation where we may have problems bring in food, flights might be grounded. The economy will totally go to gooseberry fool. While I don't think these are the most likely outcome, they seem to be becoming more likely.


If you genuinely think that'll happen I think you need a rest from Brexit news.


If you genuinely this that'll not happen I think you need to pay more attention to the world around you.

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PostRe: Brexit
by lex-man » Mon Nov 13, 2017 2:57 pm

Lucien wrote:
lex-man wrote:Yes, but this country seems to be running towards a situation where we may have problems bring in food, flights might be grounded. The economy will totally go to gooseberry fool. While I don't think these are the most likely outcome, they seem to be becoming more likely.


If you genuinely think that'll happen I think you need a rest from Brexit news.


I don't think it will happen but it's certainly a possibility. Also people basically said the same thing about Brexit and Trump.

Edit: that's also the worst case scenario. There are a large number of not as bad scenarios that could happen.

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PostRe: Brexit
by Karl » Mon Nov 13, 2017 2:57 pm

Crashing out with no deal will be an economic crisis. Will there be an actual for-real famine? No. Will prices go up, and will stock get patchy, and will even more people top up their fridges via food banks? Yes. We know this because those things happen every economic crisis, and every indication is that this would be a bad one.


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