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Should the United Kingdom remain a member of the European Union or leave the European Union?

Remain a member of the European Union
222
80%
Leave the European Union
57
20%
 
Total votes: 279
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Moggy
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PostRe: Brexit
by Moggy » Fri Nov 10, 2017 2:30 pm

lex-man wrote:
Moggy wrote:
lex-man wrote:
Moggy wrote:
Lagamorph wrote:On the other hand the Tories have been massively anti-business lately. Pretty much biting every hand except the pro Hard Brexit ones. And even then having a nibble.

Business, the elderly, the rich, the Tories have been alienating all of them this last year or so.


That was cockiness before the election and panic over Corbyn after the election.

I do not expect the Tories to close many tax loopholes for the super rich if they continue to govern.

If Corbyn ever gets in, then he might close loopholes, but I don't think that'll be great for Britain either as Brexit coupled with a 98% tax rate will mean there are no businesses left here. ;)


Corbyn's tax rises aren't actually that large in the grand scheme of things. Brexit will cause far more problems than his tax rises, should he get in of course.


Did you think I was serious about a 98% tax rate?


Not really, just mansplaining.


;)

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PostRe: Brexit
by lex-man » Fri Nov 10, 2017 2:33 pm

Moggy wrote:
lex-man wrote:
Moggy wrote:
lex-man wrote:
Moggy wrote:
Lagamorph wrote:On the other hand the Tories have been massively anti-business lately. Pretty much biting every hand except the pro Hard Brexit ones. And even then having a nibble.

Business, the elderly, the rich, the Tories have been alienating all of them this last year or so.


That was cockiness before the election and panic over Corbyn after the election.

I do not expect the Tories to close many tax loopholes for the super rich if they continue to govern.

If Corbyn ever gets in, then he might close loopholes, but I don't think that'll be great for Britain either as Brexit coupled with a 98% tax rate will mean there are no businesses left here. ;)


Corbyn's tax rises aren't actually that large in the grand scheme of things. Brexit will cause far more problems than his tax rises, should he get in of course.


Did you think I was serious about a 98% tax rate?


Not really, just mansplaining.


;)


Can you mansplain to another man?

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PostRe: Brexit
by Moggy » Fri Nov 10, 2017 2:36 pm

lex-man wrote:
Moggy wrote:
lex-man wrote:
Moggy wrote:
lex-man wrote:
Moggy wrote:
Lagamorph wrote:On the other hand the Tories have been massively anti-business lately. Pretty much biting every hand except the pro Hard Brexit ones. And even then having a nibble.

Business, the elderly, the rich, the Tories have been alienating all of them this last year or so.


That was cockiness before the election and panic over Corbyn after the election.

I do not expect the Tories to close many tax loopholes for the super rich if they continue to govern.

If Corbyn ever gets in, then he might close loopholes, but I don't think that'll be great for Britain either as Brexit coupled with a 98% tax rate will mean there are no businesses left here. ;)


Corbyn's tax rises aren't actually that large in the grand scheme of things. Brexit will cause far more problems than his tax rises, should he get in of course.


Did you think I was serious about a 98% tax rate?


Not really, just mansplaining.


;)


Can you mansplain to another man?


Can I make the winky face bigger?

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PostRe: Brexit
by bear » Fri Nov 10, 2017 3:28 pm

I'd love to explain how you could but I'm afraid you'd just get offended.

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PostRe: Brexit
by lex-man » Fri Nov 10, 2017 3:45 pm

Moggy wrote:
lex-man wrote:
Moggy wrote:
lex-man wrote:
Moggy wrote:
lex-man wrote:
Moggy wrote:
Lagamorph wrote:On the other hand the Tories have been massively anti-business lately. Pretty much biting every hand except the pro Hard Brexit ones. And even then having a nibble.

Business, the elderly, the rich, the Tories have been alienating all of them this last year or so.


That was cockiness before the election and panic over Corbyn after the election.

I do not expect the Tories to close many tax loopholes for the super rich if they continue to govern.

If Corbyn ever gets in, then he might close loopholes, but I don't think that'll be great for Britain either as Brexit coupled with a 98% tax rate will mean there are no businesses left here. ;)


Corbyn's tax rises aren't actually that large in the grand scheme of things. Brexit will cause far more problems than his tax rises, should he get in of course.


Did you think I was serious about a 98% tax rate?


Not really, just mansplaining.


;)


Can you mansplain to another man?


Can I make the winky face bigger?


I was going to post a large winky face but I can't be bothered.

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PostRe: Brexit
by Meep » Sat Nov 11, 2017 2:35 pm

lex-man wrote:
Moggy wrote:
Lagamorph wrote:On the other hand the Tories have been massively anti-business lately. Pretty much biting every hand except the pro Hard Brexit ones. And even then having a nibble.

Business, the elderly, the rich, the Tories have been alienating all of them this last year or so.


That was cockiness before the election and panic over Corbyn after the election.

I do not expect the Tories to close many tax loopholes for the super rich if they continue to govern.

If Corbyn ever gets in, then he might close loopholes, but I don't think that'll be great for Britain either as Brexit coupled with a 98% tax rate will mean there are no businesses left here. ;)


Corbyn's tax rises aren't actually that large in the grand scheme of things. Brexit will cause far more problems than his tax rises, should he get in of course.

Taxes will have to rise significantly sooner or later regardless of what government we have. Current tax levels are unsustainably low. In the US they have simply let their infrastructure go to gooseberry fool and it will eventually crumble away if they don't change course. In the UK they have maintained the illusion of sustainability by the Thatcherite practice of selling off public assets built up by previous generations of taxpayers to allow the current generation to pay less and pass the bill to the next. In either case you eventually face the choice of whether you want to live in a low tax country or a developed one, because you can't have both. Even the IMF is now recommending higher taxes than those proposed by Corbyn, which shows just how desperate things must be.

Brexit isn't helpful because it robs us of the opportunity to cooperate regionally to agree on minimum tax rates whilst sustaining regional competitiveness. The EU as a block is much more able to stand up to hyper mobile companies than any one nation and even now they are making progress on clamping down on tax avoidance (ironically, this will be helped by the UK leaving, as we are one of the biggest global offenders in facilitating fax avoidance in crown dependencies and laundering dirty money in London).

I remain hopefully that eventually we will see the logic of this and rejoin the single market, even if we never regain EU membership.

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PostRe: Brexit
by Squinty » Sat Nov 11, 2017 4:12 pm


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PostRe: Brexit
by lex-man » Sat Nov 11, 2017 11:14 pm

Borris Johnson has been linked to the Russia scandal.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... estigation

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PostRe: Brexit
by Lagamorph » Sat Nov 11, 2017 11:18 pm

lex-man wrote:Borris Johnson has been linked to the Russia scandal.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... estigation

"Whoops, lol"
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PostRe: Brexit
by DML » Sat Nov 11, 2017 11:48 pm

Ah so they cheated. All makes sense now. Not in the minority and never was.

:mrgreen:

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PostRe: Brexit
by Lagamorph » Sun Nov 12, 2017 12:17 am

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Zellery wrote:Good post Lagamorph.
Turboman wrote:Lagomorph..... Is ..... Right
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PostRe: Brexit
by Garth » Sun Nov 12, 2017 4:44 am

Cornwall voted to leave the European Union in last year's referendum by more than 56 per cent, considerably above the national average. The area is home to 17,000 EU nationals, making up 3 per cent of the county's population. But research commissioned by the council found that, since the Brexit vote, staffing levels for farms had dropped to 65 per cent of what would normally be required.

35% drop in staff and we're still over a year away from leaving the EU - enjoy your rotting veg, Cornwall!

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PostRe: Brexit
by Moggy » Sun Nov 12, 2017 7:57 am

As with Grimsby, I have no sympathy for Cornwall.

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PostRe: Brexit
by Squinty » Sun Nov 12, 2017 8:22 am

Project fear!!!!!

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PostRe: Brexit
by Errkal » Sun Nov 12, 2017 8:46 am

Moggy wrote:As with Grimsby, I have no sympathy for Cornwall.


Agreed it is their strawberry float up they strawberry floating sort it!

The local parties etc. should have done more work to make people see what good comes from the EU in areas that are dependent on the EU.

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PostRe: Brexit
by Moggy » Sun Nov 12, 2017 8:50 am

Errkal wrote:
Moggy wrote:As with Grimsby, I have no sympathy for Cornwall.


Agreed it is their strawberry float up they strawberry floating sort it!

The local parties etc. should have done more work to make people see what good comes from the EU in areas that are dependent on the EU.


You shouldn’t post that in the thread, send it via PM FFS!

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PostRe: Brexit
by Errkal » Sun Nov 12, 2017 8:53 am

Moggy wrote:
Errkal wrote:
Moggy wrote:As with Grimsby, I have no sympathy for Cornwall.


Agreed it is their strawberry float up they strawberry floating sort it!

The local parties etc. should have done more work to make people see what good comes from the EU in areas that are dependent on the EU.


You shouldn’t post that in the thread, send it via PM FFS!


:lol: :shifty:

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PostRe: Brexit
by Hexx » Sun Nov 12, 2017 8:58 am

Garth wrote:
Cornwall voted to leave the European Union in last year's referendum by more than 56 per cent, considerably above the national average. The area is home to 17,000 EU nationals, making up 3 per cent of the county's population. But research commissioned by the council found that, since the Brexit vote, staffing levels for farms had dropped to 65 per cent of what would normally be required.

35% drop in staff and we're still over a year away from leaving the EU - enjoy your rotting veg, Cornwall!


Won’t be Leavers faults! This isn’t the fairytale Brexit they voted for!

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PostRe: Brexit
by Hexx » Sun Nov 12, 2017 8:59 am


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PostRe: Brexit
by Rex Kramer » Sun Nov 12, 2017 9:10 am

Oh good, Barry and Paul have chipped in again. Isn't it panto season yet so they've got something else to be doing.


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