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Should the United Kingdom remain a member of the European Union or leave the European Union?

Remain a member of the European Union
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79%
Leave the European Union
54
21%
 
Total votes: 262
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PostRe: Brexit
by Hexx » Wed Dec 06, 2017 11:49 am


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PostRe: Brexit
by Squinty » Wed Dec 06, 2017 12:12 pm

Foster has said that the DUP should be sitting in on Brexit negotiations. Hahahahahaha.

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PostRe: Brexit
by Tineash » Wed Dec 06, 2017 12:17 pm

10 troglodytes cannot be in charge of the future of the whole strawberry floating country.

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PostRe: Brexit
by Rex Kramer » Wed Dec 06, 2017 12:22 pm

Squinty wrote:Foster has said that the DUP should be sitting in on Brexit negotiations. Hahahahahaha.

To be fair, they couldn't be any less productive than Davis has been.

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PostRe: Brexit
by Partridge Iciclebubbles » Wed Dec 06, 2017 12:25 pm

Tineash wrote:10 troglodytes cannot be in charge of the future of the whole strawberry floating country.


And yet....

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PostRe: Brexit
by DML » Wed Dec 06, 2017 12:50 pm

Partridge Iciclebubbles wrote:
Tineash wrote:10 troglodytes cannot be in charge of the future of the whole strawberry floating country.


And yet....


Thing is, they may hold the power right now, but whatever way they swing they lose. They either encourage a United Ireland, a border they don't want or a Corbyn government. Mid to long term they can't win.

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PostRe: Brexit
by Photek » Wed Dec 06, 2017 1:14 pm

Partridge Iciclebubbles wrote:

:lol:

What has David Davis been doing now for over a year? it's an honest question.

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PostRe: Brexit
by Hexx » Wed Dec 06, 2017 1:17 pm

Photek wrote:
Partridge Iciclebubbles wrote:

:lol:

What has David Davis been doing now for over a year? it's an honest question.


Drinking and working a 3 day week.

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PostRe: Brexit
by Partridge Iciclebubbles » Wed Dec 06, 2017 1:19 pm

Photek wrote:What has David Davis been doing now for over a year? it's an honest question.


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PostRe: Brexit
by Partridge Iciclebubbles » Wed Dec 06, 2017 1:21 pm

DML wrote:
Partridge Iciclebubbles wrote:
Tineash wrote:10 troglodytes cannot be in charge of the future of the whole strawberry floating country.


And yet....


Thing is, they may hold the power right now, but whatever way they swing they lose. They either encourage a United Ireland, a border they don't want or a Corbyn government. Mid to long term they can't win.


And whatever way they swing they can't really win either.

I don't think being rational and decent human beings is part of the DUP makeup.

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PostRe: Brexit
by Photek » Wed Dec 06, 2017 1:25 pm

As others have stated, the DUP are doing more for a United Ireland than anyone else.

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PostRe: Brexit
by Lastpostamorph » Wed Dec 06, 2017 1:28 pm


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PostRe: Brexit
by Garth » Wed Dec 06, 2017 2:03 pm

Dominic Grieve and Anna Soubry speaking a lot of sense in the Commons today.

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PostRe: Brexit
by Rex Kramer » Wed Dec 06, 2017 2:33 pm

That'll be a few more death threats for her then.

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PostRe: Brexit
by BID0 » Wed Dec 06, 2017 3:34 pm

A few choice YouTube clips from my recommended feed this afternoon :slol:




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PostRe: Brexit
by Garth » Wed Dec 06, 2017 4:01 pm


This only reflects opinions up until October, wonder how it looks after the events of this week...

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PostRe: Brexit
by KK » Wed Dec 06, 2017 4:09 pm

To paraphrase Richard Osman on HIGNFY a few weeks ago, there's no reason Brexit can't be a success, you just need a government that knows what they're doing, who has a plan, to actually deliver and implement it properly. At the moment everyone is pulling in different directions because Brexit is something different to different people.

It's like when you do YouGov or IPSOS polling, there's usually a pretty substantial list of options asking what Brexit you think the government should adopt, and it requires a pretty decent grasp of what things like the customs union, single market, WTO, ECJ etc actually are.

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PostRe: Brexit
by Christmas CrackErrkal » Wed Dec 06, 2017 4:10 pm

I'm stunned the "how would you vote again" stuff is so close still. Sure you may want out like but now you have seen the gooseberry fool show of how that will be managed and sill you think "yup, lets do this"

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PostRe: Brexit
by Partridge Iciclebubbles » Wed Dec 06, 2017 4:18 pm

KK wrote:To paraphrase Richard Osman on HIGNFY a few weeks ago, there's no reason Brexit can't be a success,


Except for all the reasons that mean it will not be?

It’s not just this government, pathetic, weak and useless as they are, the whole Brexit idea is flawed. Massively flawed.

What exactly is Brexit? Leaving the EU? Which means what exactly?

A hard Brexit with hard borders is guaranteed to be a disaster. It destroys our relationship with our biggest trading partners and rips up the Good Friday Agreement. And that’s without getting into more personal things like what happens to foreign people living here and UK people living abroad. It’s not possible to have a Hard Brexit while also letting Northern Ireland keep an open border (because everyone will want the same special treatment). It’s not possible to “pay nothing!” and also continue to trade as we do.

A soft Brexit could be achievable but would be pointless. A lot of the Leavers would feel betrayed and everyone else would wonder what the damn point was. If you are going to follow all the EU rules, why not just be in the EU and have a say over those rules?

There is no way even a competent government could do much with this, it is a flawed concept from start to finish.

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PostRe: Brexit
by Garth » Wed Dec 06, 2017 4:47 pm


Government was arguing against it earlier over some minor amendment technicality which they are free to change quite easily without any objection. They keep saying they don't want to breach the Good Friday Agreement and put a hard border in Ireland, but they refuse to put it in writing.

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