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Should the United Kingdom remain a member of the European Union or leave the European Union?

Remain a member of the European Union
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79%
Leave the European Union
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21%
 
Total votes: 262
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PostRe: Brexit
by Squinty » Thu Dec 07, 2017 7:40 pm

Garth wrote:So if they do come to a deal to keep the Irish border open with no border down the Irish sea, the next question is how do we track and control the number of immigrants coming into the UK through Ireland?


Blood magic.

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PostRe: Brexit
by Squinty » Thu Dec 07, 2017 7:40 pm


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PostRe: Brexit
by Garth » Thu Dec 07, 2017 7:47 pm

Squinty wrote:
Garth wrote:So if they do come to a deal to keep the Irish border open with no border down the Irish sea, the next question is how do we track and control the number of immigrants coming into the UK through Ireland?


Blood magic.

I hadn't thought of that!



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PostRe: Brexit
by Return_of_the_STAR » Thu Dec 07, 2017 8:45 pm

I'm trying to work out what on earth this agreeable proposal could be. Especially if the DUP agree to it.

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PostRe: Brexit
by BID0 » Thu Dec 07, 2017 9:09 pm

Garth wrote:So if they do come to a deal to keep the Irish border open with no border down the Irish sea, the next question is how do we track and control the number of immigrants coming into the UK through Ireland?

They don’t want to control immigration, if they did they’d be doing it already.

The purpose of Brexit is to remove human rights and workers protections (aka “red tape”)

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PostRe: Brexit
by Garth » Thu Dec 07, 2017 9:36 pm



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PostRe: Brexit
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PostRe: Brexit
by Squinty » Fri Dec 08, 2017 7:00 am

Deal is done apparently.

I breathe a sign of relief, and look forward to the details.

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PostRe: Brexit
by Return_of_the_STAR » Fri Dec 08, 2017 7:01 am

Squinty wrote:Deal is done apparently.

I breathe a sign of relief, and look forward to the details.


I’m looking forward to confusing language and no one explaining in plain speak how the deal will work.

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PostRe: Brexit
by Christmas CrackErrkal » Fri Dec 08, 2017 7:08 am

Bring on the country strawberry floating!

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PostRe: Brexit
by DML » Fri Dec 08, 2017 7:17 am

Unlucky N.Ireland.

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PostRe: Brexit
by Return_of_the_STAR » Fri Dec 08, 2017 7:18 am

So if it’s believed that we will ‘maintain full regulatory alignment with the EU’ then surely there’s no reason we will not be singing up entirely to the single market. If so I can’t how we will get that access without paying a yearly membership fee. Which makes me wonder. Are we going to end up paying more per year than we do as an EU member thus making this whole exercise pointless :lol:

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PostRe: Brexit
by Partridge Iciclebubbles » Fri Dec 08, 2017 7:18 am

DML wrote:Unlucky N.Ireland.


How are they unlucky? They’ve avoided having a hard border imposed on them.

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PostRe: Brexit
by DML » Fri Dec 08, 2017 7:33 am

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Partridge Iciclebubbles wrote:
DML wrote:Unlucky N.Ireland.


How are they unlucky? They’ve avoided having a hard border imposed on them.


They have missed out in the Single Market as well though.

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PostRe: Brexit
by Return_of_the_STAR » Fri Dec 08, 2017 7:37 am

DML wrote:[webm][/webm]
Partridge Iciclebubbles wrote:
DML wrote:Unlucky N.Ireland.


How are they unlucky? They’ve avoided having a hard border imposed on them.


They have missed out in the Single Market as well though.


Have they though. We could very well end up in the single market at the rate this is all going, oh and probably paying more to access it than we do for EU membership :lol:

The government may have ruled out single market access but they’ve backtracked on everything else so far.

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PostRe: Brexit
by Christmas CrackErrkal » Fri Dec 08, 2017 7:39 am

I can't see Ireland agreeing to a border and I can't see how they let ni be in the EU effectively and the rest not so the solution must be we are all in the market etc.

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PostRe: Brexit
by Partridge Iciclebubbles » Fri Dec 08, 2017 7:40 am

DML wrote:[webm][/webm]
Partridge Iciclebubbles wrote:
DML wrote:Unlucky N.Ireland.


How are they unlucky? They’ve avoided having a hard border imposed on them.


They have missed out in the Single Market as well though.


So have we all.

Northern Ireland without a hard border will kind of still have that access. They just need to pop across the imaginary line....

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PostRe: Brexit
by Grumpy David » Fri Dec 08, 2017 7:46 am

Christmas CrackErrkal wrote:I can't see Ireland agreeing to a border and I can't see how they let ni be in the EU effectively and the rest not so the solution must be we are all in the market etc.


Yeah I agree that this seems most likely. Off the shelf solution is to just copy Norway. Out of the CAP and CFP but effectively an EU country in all but name.

Switzerland isn't in the single market, it has bilateral trade agreements which mimic the single market although their banking sector is excluded. Not sure if that's Switzerland wanting that or not but it'd be one the UK government would presumably aim for inclusion of.

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PostRe: Brexit
by captain red dog » Fri Dec 08, 2017 7:54 am

Brief foray back into this topic as I don't think this will be a controversial opinion, but that deal seems absolutely terrible. They have promised full regulatory alignment for NI, NI must have the same deal as the rest of the UK, so it would seem that the deal is that we will be legally leaving the EU but will continue to be a member in all but name.

Brexiters won't be happy as that means no trade deals unless they align with EU regulations, and Remainers can quite rightly say that we have the same trading relationship but no say on future direction.

I can see the government falling imminently.

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PostRe: Brexit
by Partridge Iciclebubbles » Fri Dec 08, 2017 7:59 am

captain red dog wrote:Brief foray back into this topic as I don't think this will be a controversial opinion, but that deal seems absolutely terrible. They have promised full regulatory alignment for NI, NI must have the same deal as the rest of the UK, so it would seem that the deal is that we will be legally leaving the EU but will continue to be a member in all but name.

Brexiters won't be happy as that means no trade deals unless they align with EU regulations, and Remainers can quite rightly say that we have the same trading relationship but no say on future direction.


It seems that's pretty much what is going to happen. We will lose all of the benefits of being members of the EU but will follow the vast majority of EU rules in order to trade with them.

I assume we will not be contributing to the EU anymore (other than the divorce bill) and so on top of following EU regulations, we will also be paying some sort of tariffs?

I can see the government falling imminently.


You'd think, but none of the hard Leavers seem to want to run the country while we go through Brexit. It's almost like they know how disastrous hard Brexit would be and don't want to be the person in charge if it happened....

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