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Should the United Kingdom remain a member of the European Union or leave the European Union?

Remain a member of the European Union
206
79%
Leave the European Union
54
21%
 
Total votes: 260
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PostRe: Brexit
by Lagamorph » Tue Nov 14, 2017 9:37 am

Moggy wrote:I was listening to a bit of James O’Brien’s show yesterday and he was discussing the ramifications for the Irish border. I didn’t catch the whole show but the caller I heard was living in Derry and was right on the border. And I mean right on it, his house was in Northern Ireland but the extension on his house was technically in Ireland. :lol:

Aren't there some people in Texas in the Mexican border in a similar situation who now face the prospect of Trump's wall being built straight through their house/land and are going to be paid a fraction of the value while having no choice in the matter?

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PostRe: Brexit
by Rex Kramer » Tue Nov 14, 2017 9:57 am

Photek wrote:Leaving without a deal will be the ultimate in self immolation. I can’t believe that sheer pigheaded ignorance is leading to this.

I think you've underestimated just how much your average Brit hates foreign people.

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PostRe: Brexit
by Photek » Tue Nov 14, 2017 9:57 am

James O’Brien has his own podcast show now, Unfiltered with JO’B.

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PostRe: Brexit
by DML » Tue Nov 14, 2017 9:58 am

Photek wrote:Leaving without a deal will be the ultimate in self immolation. I can’t believe that sheer pigheaded ignorance is leading to this.


We will not leave without a deal. It is all posturing.

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PostRe: Brexit
by Photek » Tue Nov 14, 2017 9:59 am

DML wrote:
Photek wrote:Leaving without a deal will be the ultimate in self immolation. I can’t believe that sheer pigheaded ignorance is leading to this.


We will not leave without a deal. It is all posturing.

To what end? What's the point of it?

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PostRe: Brexit
by Squinty » Tue Nov 14, 2017 10:05 am

Moggy wrote:I was listening to a bit of James O’Brien’s show yesterday and he was discussing the ramifications for the Irish border. I didn’t catch the whole show but the caller I heard was living in Derry and was right on the border. And I mean right on it, his house was in Northern Ireland but the extension on his house was technically in Ireland. :lol:


They could make his house a border checkpoint.

Irish border infrastructure problem solved :datass:

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PostRe: Brexit
by Moggy » Tue Nov 14, 2017 10:18 am

DML wrote:
Photek wrote:Leaving without a deal will be the ultimate in self immolation. I can’t believe that sheer pigheaded ignorance is leading to this.


We will not leave without a deal. It is all posturing.


I think you underestimate just what a bunch of incompetent twats we have in government at the moment.

They have hardly any time left to strike a deal. Do you think they are going to grab one at the last minute or do you think they already have one and are pretending that they don't for the lols?

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PostRe: Brexit
by Moggy » Tue Nov 14, 2017 10:19 am

Squinty wrote:
Moggy wrote:I was listening to a bit of James O’Brien’s show yesterday and he was discussing the ramifications for the Irish border. I didn’t catch the whole show but the caller I heard was living in Derry and was right on the border. And I mean right on it, his house was in Northern Ireland but the extension on his house was technically in Ireland. :lol:


They could make his house a border checkpoint.

Irish border infrastructure problem solved :datass:


That's kind of how the conversation went. "So you will need to show your passport to go to the kitchen?" :lol:

It's funny, until you realise that it is not far off the truth. :dread:

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PostRe: Brexit
by DML » Tue Nov 14, 2017 10:58 am

Moggy wrote:
DML wrote:
Photek wrote:Leaving without a deal will be the ultimate in self immolation. I can’t believe that sheer pigheaded ignorance is leading to this.


We will not leave without a deal. It is all posturing.


I think you underestimate just what a bunch of incompetent twats we have in government at the moment.

They have hardly any time left to strike a deal. Do you think they are going to grab one at the last minute or do you think they already have one and are pretending that they don't for the lols?


They will grab a poor deal last minute.

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PostRe: Brexit
by lex-man » Tue Nov 14, 2017 11:03 am

Moggy wrote:
Squinty wrote:
Moggy wrote:I was listening to a bit of James O’Brien’s show yesterday and he was discussing the ramifications for the Irish border. I didn’t catch the whole show but the caller I heard was living in Derry and was right on the border. And I mean right on it, his house was in Northern Ireland but the extension on his house was technically in Ireland. :lol:


They could make his house a border checkpoint.

Irish border infrastructure problem solved :datass:


That's kind of how the conversation went. "So you will need to show your passport to go to the kitchen?" :lol:

It's funny, until you realise that it is not far off the truth. :dread:


There is a town on the Canadian-American border that's a bit like that. The high street literally straddles the boarder and at one point the US immigration service started arresting people for crossing the road without a passport.

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PostRe: Brexit
by Moggy » Tue Nov 14, 2017 11:07 am

DML wrote:
Moggy wrote:
DML wrote:
Photek wrote:Leaving without a deal will be the ultimate in self immolation. I can’t believe that sheer pigheaded ignorance is leading to this.


We will not leave without a deal. It is all posturing.


I think you underestimate just what a bunch of incompetent twats we have in government at the moment.

They have hardly any time left to strike a deal. Do you think they are going to grab one at the last minute or do you think they already have one and are pretending that they don't for the lols?


They will grab a poor deal last minute.


Well that sounds like a 100% set in concrete prediction. :lol:

The signs are all pointing to there being no deal.

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PostRe: Brexit
by Return_of_the_STAR » Tue Nov 14, 2017 11:11 am

lex-man wrote:
Moggy wrote:
Squinty wrote:
Moggy wrote:I was listening to a bit of James O’Brien’s show yesterday and he was discussing the ramifications for the Irish border. I didn’t catch the whole show but the caller I heard was living in Derry and was right on the border. And I mean right on it, his house was in Northern Ireland but the extension on his house was technically in Ireland. :lol:


They could make his house a border checkpoint.

Irish border infrastructure problem solved :datass:


That's kind of how the conversation went. "So you will need to show your passport to go to the kitchen?" :lol:

It's funny, until you realise that it is not far off the truth. :dread:


There is a town on the Canadian-American border that's a bit like that. The high street literally straddles the boarder and at one point the US immigration service started arresting people for crossing the road without a passport.


Yeah there one on the spain and French border too. I get that one as the village was first settled before the border was cited there. I wonder when the house in Northern Ireland and it’s extension were built. If the extension has happened since the border was placed there how and why on Earth did that happen?

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PostRe: Brexit
by DML » Tue Nov 14, 2017 11:48 am

Moggy wrote:
DML wrote:
Moggy wrote:
DML wrote:
Photek wrote:Leaving without a deal will be the ultimate in self immolation. I can’t believe that sheer pigheaded ignorance is leading to this.


We will not leave without a deal. It is all posturing.


I think you underestimate just what a bunch of incompetent twats we have in government at the moment.

They have hardly any time left to strike a deal. Do you think they are going to grab one at the last minute or do you think they already have one and are pretending that they don't for the lols?


They will grab a poor deal last minute.


Well that sounds like a 100% set in concrete prediction. :lol:

The signs are all pointing to there being no deal.


They will have no choice but to take a deal, as they know what will happen if they don't.

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PostRe: Brexit
by Moggy » Tue Nov 14, 2017 11:53 am

DML wrote:
Moggy wrote:
DML wrote:
Moggy wrote:
DML wrote:
Photek wrote:Leaving without a deal will be the ultimate in self immolation. I can’t believe that sheer pigheaded ignorance is leading to this.


We will not leave without a deal. It is all posturing.


I think you underestimate just what a bunch of incompetent twats we have in government at the moment.

They have hardly any time left to strike a deal. Do you think they are going to grab one at the last minute or do you think they already have one and are pretending that they don't for the lols?


They will grab a poor deal last minute.


Well that sounds like a 100% set in concrete prediction. :lol:

The signs are all pointing to there being no deal.


They will have no choice but to take a deal, as they know what will happen if they don't.


And you are basing that on the competence shown by the current top table of the government?

Everything at the moment points to there being no deal. I have zero confidence in Davis to deliver anything.

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PostRe: Brexit
by DML » Tue Nov 14, 2017 11:57 am

Moggy wrote:
DML wrote:
Moggy wrote:
DML wrote:
Moggy wrote:
DML wrote:
Photek wrote:Leaving without a deal will be the ultimate in self immolation. I can’t believe that sheer pigheaded ignorance is leading to this.


We will not leave without a deal. It is all posturing.


I think you underestimate just what a bunch of incompetent twats we have in government at the moment.

They have hardly any time left to strike a deal. Do you think they are going to grab one at the last minute or do you think they already have one and are pretending that they don't for the lols?


They will grab a poor deal last minute.


Well that sounds like a 100% set in concrete prediction. :lol:

The signs are all pointing to there being no deal.


They will have no choice but to take a deal, as they know what will happen if they don't.


And you are basing that on the competence shown by the current top table of the government?

Everything at the moment points to there being no deal. I have zero confidence in Davis to deliver anything.


I have zero confidence they will get a good deal. They will have to take a deal however because anything else is Alice in Wonderland. It doesn't make any sense. The country will not be able to function. They may well take 'a deal' and dress it up like its no deal, but a gooseberry fool deal will be made and it will be shiiiit.

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PostRe: Brexit
by Moggy » Tue Nov 14, 2017 12:00 pm

DML wrote:
Moggy wrote:
DML wrote:
Moggy wrote:
DML wrote:
Moggy wrote:
DML wrote:
Photek wrote:Leaving without a deal will be the ultimate in self immolation. I can’t believe that sheer pigheaded ignorance is leading to this.


We will not leave without a deal. It is all posturing.


I think you underestimate just what a bunch of incompetent twats we have in government at the moment.

They have hardly any time left to strike a deal. Do you think they are going to grab one at the last minute or do you think they already have one and are pretending that they don't for the lols?


They will grab a poor deal last minute.


Well that sounds like a 100% set in concrete prediction. :lol:

The signs are all pointing to there being no deal.


They will have no choice but to take a deal, as they know what will happen if they don't.


And you are basing that on the competence shown by the current top table of the government?

Everything at the moment points to there being no deal. I have zero confidence in Davis to deliver anything.


I have zero confidence they will get a good deal. They will have to take a deal however because anything else is Alice in Wonderland. It doesn't make any sense. The country will not be able to function. They may well take 'a deal' and dress it up like its no deal, but a gooseberry fool deal will be made and it will be shiiiit.


This is more you being hopeful than anything that is going to happen though.

There is zero evidence Davis is trying to make a deal.

There is zero evidence the government will accept a deal.

There is zero evidence that Parliament will not vote against a bad deal.

Sure a deal might happen, but I am not overly confident about that based on the current evidence.

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PostRe: Brexit
by DML » Tue Nov 14, 2017 12:07 pm

Moggy wrote:
DML wrote:
Moggy wrote:
DML wrote:
Moggy wrote:
DML wrote:
Moggy wrote:
DML wrote:
Photek wrote:Leaving without a deal will be the ultimate in self immolation. I can’t believe that sheer pigheaded ignorance is leading to this.


We will not leave without a deal. It is all posturing.


I think you underestimate just what a bunch of incompetent twats we have in government at the moment.

They have hardly any time left to strike a deal. Do you think they are going to grab one at the last minute or do you think they already have one and are pretending that they don't for the lols?


They will grab a poor deal last minute.


Well that sounds like a 100% set in concrete prediction. :lol:

The signs are all pointing to there being no deal.


They will have no choice but to take a deal, as they know what will happen if they don't.


And you are basing that on the competence shown by the current top table of the government?

Everything at the moment points to there being no deal. I have zero confidence in Davis to deliver anything.


I have zero confidence they will get a good deal. They will have to take a deal however because anything else is Alice in Wonderland. It doesn't make any sense. The country will not be able to function. They may well take 'a deal' and dress it up like its no deal, but a gooseberry fool deal will be made and it will be shiiiit.


This is more you being hopeful than anything that is going to happen though.

There is zero evidence Davis is trying to make a deal.

There is zero evidence the government will accept a deal.

There is zero evidence that Parliament will not vote against a bad deal.

Sure a deal might happen, but I am not overly confident about that based on the current evidence.


Look, I'm as anti Brexit as you. I may even be more so.

But at the end of the day, there comes a point where the stupidity stops. If this country is ACTUALLY STUPID enough to do a cliff edge Brexit, I would be amazed. Its incredibly concerning its still even on the table though, and I think the fact its still on the table is a woeful terrible sign of whats to come...but ultimately I don't think its what we're going to end up with. It'll be a really shitty deal painted as a victory for Brexiteers instead. It will fool very few.

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PostRe: Brexit
by Errkal » Tue Nov 14, 2017 12:09 pm

DML wrote:
Moggy wrote:
DML wrote:
Moggy wrote:
DML wrote:
Moggy wrote:
DML wrote:
Moggy wrote:
DML wrote:
Photek wrote:Leaving without a deal will be the ultimate in self immolation. I can’t believe that sheer pigheaded ignorance is leading to this.


We will not leave without a deal. It is all posturing.


I think you underestimate just what a bunch of incompetent twats we have in government at the moment.

They have hardly any time left to strike a deal. Do you think they are going to grab one at the last minute or do you think they already have one and are pretending that they don't for the lols?


They will grab a poor deal last minute.


Well that sounds like a 100% set in concrete prediction. :lol:

The signs are all pointing to there being no deal.


They will have no choice but to take a deal, as they know what will happen if they don't.


And you are basing that on the competence shown by the current top table of the government?

Everything at the moment points to there being no deal. I have zero confidence in Davis to deliver anything.


I have zero confidence they will get a good deal. They will have to take a deal however because anything else is Alice in Wonderland. It doesn't make any sense. The country will not be able to function. They may well take 'a deal' and dress it up like its no deal, but a gooseberry fool deal will be made and it will be shiiiit.


This is more you being hopeful than anything that is going to happen though.

There is zero evidence Davis is trying to make a deal.

There is zero evidence the government will accept a deal.

There is zero evidence that Parliament will not vote against a bad deal.

Sure a deal might happen, but I am not overly confident about that based on the current evidence.


Look, I'm as anti Brexit as you. I may even be more so.

But at the end of the day, there comes a point where the stupidity stops. If this country is ACTUALLY STUPID enough to do a cliff edge Brexit, I would be amazed. Its incredibly concerning its still even on the table though, and I think the fact its still on the table is a woeful terrible sign of whats to come...but ultimately I don't think its what we're going to end up with. It'll be a really shitty deal painted as a victory for Brexiteers instead. It will fool very few.


It isn't really about being stupid enough, it is about the leaders having the nads enough to turn round to the loud mouth idiots and the papers and say "no, this is a bad idea, it is going to harm us more than it gains and it we don't want to risk peoples lives because if we dont you will destroy us in print".

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PostRe: Brexit
by Squinty » Tue Nov 14, 2017 12:20 pm

I will be surprised if they get past the border issue, I don't think it's solveable. I don't think there will be a deal.

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PostRe: Brexit
by Moggy » Tue Nov 14, 2017 12:21 pm

DML wrote:
Moggy wrote:
DML wrote:
Moggy wrote:
DML wrote:
Moggy wrote:
DML wrote:
Moggy wrote:
DML wrote:
Photek wrote:Leaving without a deal will be the ultimate in self immolation. I can’t believe that sheer pigheaded ignorance is leading to this.


We will not leave without a deal. It is all posturing.


I think you underestimate just what a bunch of incompetent twats we have in government at the moment.

They have hardly any time left to strike a deal. Do you think they are going to grab one at the last minute or do you think they already have one and are pretending that they don't for the lols?


They will grab a poor deal last minute.


Well that sounds like a 100% set in concrete prediction. :lol:

The signs are all pointing to there being no deal.


They will have no choice but to take a deal, as they know what will happen if they don't.


And you are basing that on the competence shown by the current top table of the government?

Everything at the moment points to there being no deal. I have zero confidence in Davis to deliver anything.


I have zero confidence they will get a good deal. They will have to take a deal however because anything else is Alice in Wonderland. It doesn't make any sense. The country will not be able to function. They may well take 'a deal' and dress it up like its no deal, but a gooseberry fool deal will be made and it will be shiiiit.


This is more you being hopeful than anything that is going to happen though.

There is zero evidence Davis is trying to make a deal.

There is zero evidence the government will accept a deal.

There is zero evidence that Parliament will not vote against a bad deal.

Sure a deal might happen, but I am not overly confident about that based on the current evidence.


Look, I'm as anti Brexit as you. I may even be more so.

But at the end of the day, there comes a point where the stupidity stops. If this country is ACTUALLY STUPID enough to do a cliff edge Brexit, I would be amazed. Its incredibly concerning its still even on the table though, and I think the fact its still on the table is a woeful terrible sign of whats to come...but ultimately I don't think its what we're going to end up with. It'll be a really shitty deal painted as a victory for Brexiteers instead. It will fool very few.


More so? :lol: I’ve actually changed nationality because of all this, let’s not get into a Brexit dick measuring contest.

You’re confusing what you want with what will happen. Of course a deal is the best thing (other than scrapping it!) but there’s zero evidence that Davis is actually working towards that.

You are also missing the point that this country is stupid enough to have no deal.

And half the country will cheer them on for doing it.


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