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Should the United Kingdom remain a member of the European Union or leave the European Union?

Remain a member of the European Union
222
80%
Leave the European Union
57
20%
 
Total votes: 279
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PostRe: Brexit
by Squinty » Tue Feb 20, 2018 12:53 pm

I can't wait to become a warboy for Immortan Rees-Mogg :wub:

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PostRe: Brexit
by Moggy » Tue Feb 20, 2018 1:07 pm

Squinty wrote:I can't wait to become a warboy for Immortan Rees-Mogg :wub:


Do not, my friends, become addicted to freedom of movement. It will take hold of you, and you will resent its absence!

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PostRe: Brexit
by finish.last » Tue Feb 20, 2018 6:55 pm

Moggy wrote:
Regginator3 wrote:
Finish.Last wrote:Thought this was quite an interesting thread on why Remain supporters don't understand leavers

twitter.com/garrethhayes/status/965318168028819456


Even as a Remain voter, this is a very disappointing twitter thread, actually. Incredibly patronising and insulting. This is actually one of the reasons Leavers have so much anger against Remainers, I reckon.

It's like our camp has learned absolutely nothing


I agree with you on the Tweet thread, it’s overly simplistic and patronising.

The idea of “our camp has learned nothing” is odd though. I’ve seen it suggested (and I assume you were implying) that some people voted leave because of some Remainers being smug and thinking Leavers were idiots. Which if true, proves the point that they are idiots, voting in an important referendum in such a way is beyond stupid.

I don’t believe that though, there may have been a few that did (there are always idiots on all sides!), but there were a lot of reasons people voted leave. I believe they were all wrong, but there is no out and out reason why leave won.

Some were racist, some were stupid, some believed the lies on the NHS, some wanted more British sovereignty, some thought the EU was controlled by French/German bureaucrats, some thought they’d make personal money off of it, some believed it’d renew Britain’s place in the world.

Just saying that Remain was arrogant is too simplistic.


Apologies for just posting the Tweet and running last night!

I found the train of thought of the Tweet quite interesting - although I agree it's pretty patronising in it's tone. It's a line of thinking I hadn't really seen explored too much before and I wondered to what degree there might be some truth in it (the idea of a nostalgic vote), especially given the age profile of those who voted to leave.

The other aspect I thought was quite interesting was - as we see here quite often! - the total failure to find a 'middle ground'. I honestly - truly - haven't heard anything in favour of leaving that has made me go 'Oh, hey - actually I hadn't thought of that, that could be good', or whatever. Is that my fixed mindset (I would have voted Remain), or is there really too big a gap between the two camp's ideologies?

All that said, I see now that David Davis is almost certain Britain will not be Mad Max-style wasteland! Which one would have to say is a positive.

I called off his players' names as they came marching up the steps behind him....All nice guys. They'll finish last. Nice guys. Finish last.
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PostRe: Brexit
by Moggy » Tue Feb 20, 2018 6:58 pm

It’s not a positive, things always end up worse than DD predicts. The UK will probably be like Mad Max but with no working vehicles.

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PostRe: Brexit
by finish.last » Tue Feb 20, 2018 7:04 pm

Good point. Plus, Tina Turner.

I called off his players' names as they came marching up the steps behind him....All nice guys. They'll finish last. Nice guys. Finish last.
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PostRe: Brexit
by Squinty » Tue Feb 20, 2018 8:04 pm

Moggy wrote:
Squinty wrote:I can't wait to become a warboy for Immortan Rees-Mogg :wub:


Do not, my friends, become addicted to freedom of movement. It will take hold of you, and you will resent its absence!


I am the man, who grabs The Sun. RIDING TO BREXITLAND!!!!!!!

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PostRe: Brexit
by Dual » Wed Feb 21, 2018 6:57 am

Depends which Mad Max. The sexy new one with Tom Hardy or the old crappy one with sex offender Mel Gibson.

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PostRe: Brexit
by Squinty » Wed Feb 21, 2018 7:01 am

Dual wrote:Depends which Mad Max. The sexy new one with Tom Hardy or the old crappy one with sex offender Mel Gibson.


Hey hey hey Road Warrior is cool as strawberry float.

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PostRe: Brexit
by Moggy » Wed Feb 21, 2018 7:51 am

twitter.com/sturdyalex/status/966103794684702720



I’ve got a feeling that the workers from further afield might not be the colour that a lot of those “concerned” about immigration like.

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PostRe: Brexit
by Moggy » Wed Feb 21, 2018 9:37 am

twitter.com/prague_tony/status/965866813753057280



:lol:

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PostRe: Brexit
by Hexx » Wed Feb 21, 2018 10:19 am


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PostRe: Brexit
by Moggy » Wed Feb 21, 2018 10:22 am

Hexx wrote:http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-divorce-bill-eu-withhold-david-davis-theresa-may-vienna-speech-secret-a8219706.html

Jesus Christ


Not to worry, we still have plenty of time to sort everything out.

:dread:

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PostRe: Brexit
by Photek » Wed Feb 21, 2018 10:27 am

Moggy wrote:
Hexx wrote:http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-divorce-bill-eu-withhold-david-davis-theresa-may-vienna-speech-secret-a8219706.html

Jesus Christ


Not to worry, we still have plenty of time to sort everything out.

:dread:

Paying the divorce bill will be peanuts compared to getting a trade deal.

HOW IS THIS MAN IN CHARGE OF NEGOTIATIONS?

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PostRe: Brexit
by Squinty » Wed Feb 21, 2018 10:28 am

Hexx wrote:http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-divorce-bill-eu-withhold-david-davis-theresa-may-vienna-speech-secret-a8219706.html

Jesus Christ


We will withhold the aqua cola.

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PostRe: Brexit
by Moggy » Wed Feb 21, 2018 10:33 am

Photek wrote:
Moggy wrote:
Hexx wrote:http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-divorce-bill-eu-withhold-david-davis-theresa-may-vienna-speech-secret-a8219706.html

Jesus Christ


Not to worry, we still have plenty of time to sort everything out.

:dread:

Paying the divorce bill will be peanuts compared to getting a trade deal.

HOW IS THIS MAN IN CHARGE OF NEGOTIATIONS?


BECAUSE HE CONTROLS THE WATER!

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PostRe: Brexit
by Photek » Wed Feb 21, 2018 10:36 am

Thinking about it a bit though, I'm going to presume it's just bravado. I mean, really the EU is going to set a price and terms and its up to the UK to take it or leave it. Hubris could mean no trade deal though and I guess that's what everyone is worried about. The UK really has no cards to play in this deal.

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PostRe: Brexit
by DML » Wed Feb 21, 2018 10:52 am

Photek wrote:Thinking about it a bit though, I'm going to presume it's just bravado.


Of course it is, its as plain as day.

I'd like to hear something from our government other than bullshit please.

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PostRe: Brexit
by Lex-Man » Wed Feb 21, 2018 12:06 pm

Squinty wrote:
Dual wrote:Depends which Mad Max. The sexy new one with Tom Hardy or the old crappy one with sex offender Mel Gibson.


Hey hey hey Road Warrior is cool as strawberry float.


Wouldn't we end up in Mad Max 1 with society sort of still working but clearly failing. It'd take a while until we got to either of the good mad max films.

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PostRe: Brexit
by Lagamorph » Wed Feb 21, 2018 12:10 pm


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PostRe: Brexit
by Photek » Wed Feb 21, 2018 12:39 pm


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