Brexit

Slayerx wrote:

Moggy wrote:It's a weird hope from Leavers that the EU will collapse. If we leave why give a gooseberry fool?

Plus the only way it's likely to happen is if the National Front win the French presidency (and then win a referendum). You've got to be pretty psychopathic to be hoping for a NF victory.

I'm not looking forward to the collapse of the EU but it's pretty enevitable imo.

Based on what evidence?

Support of the EU in Europe is actually RISING and the EU is doing as well as it ever has.

Slayerx wrote:

Moggy wrote:It's a weird hope from Leavers that the EU will collapse. If we leave why give a gooseberry fool?

Plus the only way it's likely to happen is if the National Front win the French presidency (and then win a referendum). You've got to be pretty psychopathic to be hoping for a NF victory.

I'm not looking forward to the collapse of the EU but it's pretty enevitable imo.

Evidence?

Moggy wrote:

Slayerx wrote:

Moggy wrote:It's a weird hope from Leavers that the EU will collapse. If we leave why give a gooseberry fool?

Plus the only way it's likely to happen is if the National Front win the French presidency (and then win a referendum). You've got to be pretty psychopathic to be hoping for a NF victory.

I'm not looking forward to the collapse of the EU but it's pretty enevitable imo.

Evidence?

The UK's leaving, haven't you heard?

Moggy wrote:

Slayerx wrote:

Moggy wrote:It's a weird hope from Leavers that the EU will collapse. If we leave why give a gooseberry fool?

Plus the only way it's likely to happen is if the National Front win the French presidency (and then win a referendum). You've got to be pretty psychopathic to be hoping for a NF victory.

I'm not looking forward to the collapse of the EU but it's pretty enevitable imo.

Evidence?

This article outlines a lot of obstacles the EU has to overcome this year.

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/01/28/w ... trump.html

If more members start to leave, surely this undermines the need for the EU and the countries in Europe that aren't In the EU although not perfect seem to be doing ok.

Unemployment and austerity are real concerns in places like Spain and Italy.

Slayerx wrote:

Moggy wrote:

Slayerx wrote:

Moggy wrote:It's a weird hope from Leavers that the EU will collapse. If we leave why give a gooseberry fool?

Plus the only way it's likely to happen is if the National Front win the French presidency (and then win a referendum). You've got to be pretty psychopathic to be hoping for a NF victory.

I'm not looking forward to the collapse of the EU but it's pretty enevitable imo.

Evidence?

This article outlines a lot of obstacles the EU has to overcome this year.

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/01/28/w ... trump.html

If more members start to leave, surely this undermines the need for the EU and the countries in Europe that aren't In the EU although not perfect seem to be doing ok.

Unemployment and austerity are real concerns in places like Spain and Italy.

None of that strikes me as being inevitable. There are challenges ahead but if anything most countries will be waiting to see how Britain gets on alone before risking it themselves.

Le Pen is unlikely to win in France, Wilders might "win" in the Netherlands but will be hobbled by their political system. Greece/Italy/Spain face tough economies but will realise they are better off in than out.

America and Turkey are pretty irrelevant when it comes to the EU holding together.

So yesterday in Parliment Corbyn made this amazing speech about how No Deal with Europe would be a bad deal. WHY DID YOU VOTE AGAINST THE AMMENDMENTS YOU STUPID TWAT.

Qikz wrote:So yesterday in Parliment Corbyn made this amazing speech about how No Deal with Europe would be a bad deal. WHY DID YOU VOTE AGAINST THE AMMENDMENTS YOU STUPID TWAT.

Because he is a stupid twat.

Moggy wrote:

Qikz wrote:So yesterday in Parliment Corbyn made this amazing speech about how No Deal with Europe would be a bad deal. WHY DID YOU VOTE AGAINST THE AMMENDMENTS YOU STUPID TWAT.

Because he is a stupid twat.

I just can't understand parliament at all. They say one thing then vote in the complete opposite direction.

They yesterday voted to take away their own ability to make any changes to precedings and it makes no sense at all.

Qikz wrote:

Moggy wrote:

Qikz wrote:So yesterday in Parliment Corbyn made this amazing speech about how No Deal with Europe would be a bad deal. WHY DID YOU VOTE AGAINST THE AMMENDMENTS YOU STUPID TWAT.

Because he is a stupid twat.

I just can't understand parliament at all. They say one thing then vote in the complete opposite direction.

They yesterday voted to take away their own ability to make any changes to precedings and it makes no sense at all.

Corbyn is weak he decided to abstain from voting on the Snooper Charter as the leader of any party he should of used his vote regardless of how he voted.

Moggy wrote:

Slayerx wrote:

Moggy wrote:

Slayerx wrote:

Moggy wrote:It's a weird hope from Leavers that the EU will collapse. If we leave why give a gooseberry fool?

Plus the only way it's likely to happen is if the National Front win the French presidency (and then win a referendum). You've got to be pretty psychopathic to be hoping for a NF victory.

I'm not looking forward to the collapse of the EU but it's pretty enevitable imo.

Evidence?

This article outlines a lot of obstacles the EU has to overcome this year.

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/01/28/w ... trump.html

If more members start to leave, surely this undermines the need for the EU and the countries in Europe that aren't In the EU although not perfect seem to be doing ok.

Unemployment and austerity are real concerns in places like Spain and Italy.

None of that strikes me as being inevitable. There are challenges ahead but if anything most countries will be waiting to see how Britain gets on alone before risking it themselves.

Le Pen is unlikely to win in France, Wilders might "win" in the Netherlands but will be hobbled by their political system. Greece/Italy/Spain face tough economies but will realise they are better off in than out.

America and Turkey are pretty irrelevant when it comes to the EU holding together.

Thanks for pointing out the issues with the political system in the Netherlands, i didn't realise it was the way it is and as you say Wilder will be restrained by the system.

Slayerx wrote:

Qikz wrote:

Moggy wrote:

Qikz wrote:So yesterday in Parliment Corbyn made this amazing speech about how No Deal with Europe would be a bad deal. WHY DID YOU VOTE AGAINST THE AMMENDMENTS YOU STUPID TWAT.

Because he is a stupid twat.

I just can't understand parliament at all. They say one thing then vote in the complete opposite direction.

They yesterday voted to take away their own ability to make any changes to precedings and it makes no sense at all.

Corbyn is weak he decided to abstain from voting on the Snooper Charter as the leader of any party he should of used his vote regardless of how he voted.

It's also because Corbyn doesn't want anything to potentially delay/jeopardise the UK leaving the EU. The goal of his entire professional career is finally being realised so whilst he'll give a few soundbites to try and sound like he cares, he's actually delighted with how things are going and is not going to put the process at any risk of slowing down.

UK unemployment fell to its lowest rate in 41 years in the three months to January, according to new figures.

The Office for National Statistics (ONS) said the unemployment rate fell to 4.7%, a level not seen since between June and August 1975.

The number of people out of work fell to 1.58m while Britons in employment rose to 31.85m.
However, wage growth has slowed significantly to 2.2% from 2.6% in the previous three-month period.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-39277539

That is outstanding, whichever way you look at it.

So the guy dealing with our exit has said we have no plan if no deal is struck before we leave

KKLEIN wrote:

UK unemployment fell to its lowest rate in 41 years in the three months to January, according to new figures.

The Office for National Statistics (ONS) said the unemployment rate fell to 4.7%, a level not seen since between June and August 1975.

The number of people out of work fell to 1.58m while Britons in employment rose to 31.85m.
However, wage growth has slowed significantly to 2.2% from 2.6% in the previous three-month period.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-39277539

That is outstanding, whichever way you look at it.

It is.

Whether that will continue when we leave the EU though...

Also the lead up to January will include all the additional Christmas temp staff that get taken on which will inflate numbers.

Lagamorph wrote:It's also because Corbyn doesn't want anything to potentially delay/jeopardise the UK leaving the EU. The goal of his entire professional career is finally being realised

Crikies, i May have reason to take notice of him. Go Corbyn.

So British unemployment is at its lowest rate in 41 years when we're supposedly flooded with foreigners stealing British jobs.

While we're still in the EU too!

KKLEIN wrote:

UK unemployment fell to its lowest rate in 41 years in the three months to January, according to new figures.

The Office for National Statistics (ONS) said the unemployment rate fell to 4.7%, a level not seen since between June and August 1975.

The number of people out of work fell to 1.58m while Britons in employment rose to 31.85m.
However, wage growth has slowed significantly to 2.2% from 2.6% in the previous three-month period.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-39277539

That is outstanding, whichever way you look at it.

It's also off-topic as it has nothing to do with Brexit given that we are still in the EU

Only unemployed because of those nasty foreigners taking up all those menial jobs; I'm sure there'll be queues of people wanting to be street cleaners rather than watch Jezza every day and get benefits for it...

Saying that, I've enjoyed watching Jezza over Christmas

Garth wrote:So British unemployment is at its lowest rate in 41 years when we're supposedly flooded with foreigners stealing British jobs.

While we're still in the EU too!

Maybe all the hate crimes have forced the foreigners out and now we are on the dawn of a new Britain where Mrs May leads us to a glorious future of Britain being only for the British.