Brexit

KK wrote:I've noticed the make-up of supermarket staff to be kind of interesting. It genuinely differs depending on where you go. Lidl is predominantly Eastern European, ASDA is very chatty women (usually quite loud), Morrisons and Tesco Express is Asian, Marks and Spencer is black women and disproportionately attractive cashiers, and Sainsbury's is filled with oldies.

I refuse to believe it's coincidence.

Squinty wrote:

LOL WAHHHHHH

Voters can use the next general election to have their say on a final Brexit deal, Michael Gove has said.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-42291191

Partridge Iciclebubbles wrote:

DML wrote:

Moggy wrote:

DML wrote:

Photek wrote:Leaving without a deal will be the ultimate in self immolation. I can’t believe that sheer pigheaded ignorance is leading to this.

We will not leave without a deal. It is all posturing.

I think you underestimate just what a bunch of incompetent twats we have in government at the moment.

They have hardly any time left to strike a deal. Do you think they are going to grab one at the last minute or do you think they already have one and are pretending that they don't for the lols?

They will grab a poor deal last minute.

Well that sounds like a 100% set in concrete prediction.

The signs are all pointing to there being no deal.

DML wrote:

Partridge Iciclebubbles wrote:

DML wrote:

Moggy wrote:

DML wrote:

Photek wrote:Leaving without a deal will be the ultimate in self immolation. I can’t believe that sheer pigheaded ignorance is leading to this.

We will not leave without a deal. It is all posturing.

I think you underestimate just what a bunch of incompetent twats we have in government at the moment.

They have hardly any time left to strike a deal. Do you think they are going to grab one at the last minute or do you think they already have one and are pretending that they don't for the lols?

They will grab a poor deal last minute.

Well that sounds like a 100% set in concrete prediction.

The signs are all pointing to there being no deal.

twitter.com/patrickwintour/status/939156039655665665

Partridge Iciclebubbles wrote:

DML wrote:

Partridge Iciclebubbles wrote:

DML wrote:

Moggy wrote:

DML wrote:

Photek wrote:Leaving without a deal will be the ultimate in self immolation. I can’t believe that sheer pigheaded ignorance is leading to this.

We will not leave without a deal. It is all posturing.

I think you underestimate just what a bunch of incompetent twats we have in government at the moment.

They have hardly any time left to strike a deal. Do you think they are going to grab one at the last minute or do you think they already have one and are pretending that they don't for the lols?

They will grab a poor deal last minute.

Well that sounds like a 100% set in concrete prediction.

The signs are all pointing to there being no deal.

Bless.

captain red dog wrote:The problem with this deal is that you get none of the benefits of being in the EU and none of the benefits of being outside of the EU. It locks the UK into a long economic decline with no ability or flexibility to change that with new trade deals or state aid to bail out industry etc.

If there was a referendum on this deal or continued membership, remain would win no question. I almost wonder if that is the intention. If May has a cabinet impasse, she could just put the decision into the hands of the public.

DML wrote:

Partridge Iciclebubbles wrote:

DML wrote:

Partridge Iciclebubbles wrote:

DML wrote:

Moggy wrote:

DML wrote:

Photek wrote:Leaving without a deal will be the ultimate in self immolation. I can’t believe that sheer pigheaded ignorance is leading to this.

We will not leave without a deal. It is all posturing.

I think you underestimate just what a bunch of incompetent twats we have in government at the moment.

They have hardly any time left to strike a deal. Do you think they are going to grab one at the last minute or do you think they already have one and are pretending that they don't for the lols?

They will grab a poor deal last minute.

Well that sounds like a 100% set in concrete prediction.

The signs are all pointing to there being no deal.

Bless.

just shows I'm the most clever remoaner.

It's like being the best of the best.

THE SUN SAYS

WELL, that’s one in the EYE for the Brexit DOOM-MONGERS who couldn’t wait for Britain to fail.

For months the Prime Minister has endured endless SNIPING at home.

And her so-called “partners” on the continent (and in Dublin) have leaked poison — patronising, self-important and insulting in equal measure.

The rent-a-quote Irish Prime Minister Leo Varadkar comparing the dignified Mrs May to a promiscuous divorcee was a low point.

They all said she was making a ‘Phase 1’ deal just about impossible.

Well, doesn’t look so impossible this morning, does it?

The UK’s objectives were to protect citizens’ rights, give businesses some certainty, ensure no hard border on the island of Ireland and thrash out our financial commitments.

As of yesterday, we can put a TICK next to them all.

No, the arrangement isn’t perfect. The size of the proposed divorce bill is tough to swallow, and we want the crazed zealots of the European Court of Justice out of our lives forever.

The compromises on both are just about bearable.

So despite those quibbles, this is a step towards the final deal we want.

In Phase 2, Brussels needs to be regularly reminded of our Prime Minister’s mantra: Nothing is agreed until everything is agreed.

That means no deal, no cash.

We’re more optimistic than we have ever been that the EU is negotiating in good faith.

Perhaps they have finally realised that we’re serious when we say we’re off.

But we’ve seen Brussels pull all sorts of NONSENSE in the past and we wouldn’t be surprised if, after a Christmas truce, they go back to their old tricks.

So the Prime Minister needs to stand FIRM in the tough talks to come.

She must ensure that we don’t transfer existing rules and regulations in hard and fast law.

“Alignment” on general principles is sensible — taking dictation from Brussels for years to come is not.

That’s not just so our businesses can continue to trade, but because the rise of new industries like artificial intelligence make it crucial that we’re allowed to set our own path.

That work starts next week.

Like her beloved England cricket team, the PM has had to face a consistently hostile attack on a tough wicket.

But unlike the Ashes boys, she’s stood FIRM, played with a Boycott-like straight bat, and come back to the clubhouse safely — with a decent score to boot.

The Sun would offer some advice.

When she comes back after Christmas, Mrs May should BEEF up her team.

Downing Street must be able to lock down the Government’s allies in private, and stop minor disagreements on detail blowing up into public rows.

But for now, we’d say it’s a very good start indeed.

Partridge Iciclebubbles wrote:

DML wrote:

Partridge Iciclebubbles wrote:

DML wrote:

Partridge Iciclebubbles wrote:

DML wrote:

Moggy wrote:

DML wrote:

Photek wrote:Leaving without a deal will be the ultimate in self immolation. I can’t believe that sheer pigheaded ignorance is leading to this.

We will not leave without a deal. It is all posturing.

I think you underestimate just what a bunch of incompetent twats we have in government at the moment.

They have hardly any time left to strike a deal. Do you think they are going to grab one at the last minute or do you think they already have one and are pretending that they don't for the lols?

They will grab a poor deal last minute.

Well that sounds like a 100% set in concrete prediction.

The signs are all pointing to there being no deal.

Bless.

just shows I'm the most clever remoaner.

It's like being the best of the best.

Not really. It’s not a deal yet (2 rounds to go) and the agreement that was thrashed out was about as good as it could be and so wasn’t a poor deal.

And all of that doesn’t change the fact that everything did point towards no deal when I posted.

KK wrote:I’m guessing The Sun and Daily Mail (who were overjoyed today, with the obligatory jibes at the BBC/Guardian/Corbyn/“Japanese owned” FT and Osborne run ES) don’t wish to rock the boat. Farage’s comments were only mentioned in the DM today in a very small box out, lumped in with Corbyn. They don’t want to destabilise May or the government, or presumably risk voters running off to UKIP, which would allow Labour in were there to be another election.

Practically everyone today is running with this as a huge success, which just goes to show how you can spin this however you wish. Leave papers are happy, Remain papers like the Standard are happy.