Brexit

Squinty wrote:http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-42733778

That lovely EU. I guess they aren't an evil dictatorship after all.

Squinty wrote:http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-42733778

That lovely EU. I guess they aren't an evil dictatorship after all.

That’s just what the evil EUSSR want you to think!!!!!!!!!!!!!

When asked about this Boris bridge, Emmanuel Macron replied “I agree, let’s do it”.

Rough estimates put the cost at £120billion, so about 60 each.

We send £350million a week to Europe.
Let's spend it on a bridge to Europe instead.

If we had the kind of money they have in Dubai then this would be more than possible but sadly we don't so I don't see this happening. I think it's more likely we'll see another 2 tunnels to double the capacity of Eurostar if anything is built.

Lagamorph wrote:We send £350million a week to Europe.
Let's spend it on a bridge to Europe instead.

This is slightly different as it would involve thousands of people on both sides and loads of work for suppliers.

Peter Crisp wrote:

Lagamorph wrote:We send £350million a week to Europe.
Let's spend it on a bridge to Europe instead.

This is slightly different as it would involve thousands of people on both sides and loads of work for suppliers.

Whereas healthcare doesn’t involve thousands of people or work for the suppliers?

Moggy wrote:

Peter Crisp wrote:

Lagamorph wrote:We send £350million a week to Europe.
Let's spend it on a bridge to Europe instead.

This is slightly different as it would involve thousands of people on both sides and loads of work for suppliers.

Whereas healthcare doesn’t involve thousands of people or work for the suppliers?

This could be a topic in itself but if I were in charge of the £350m a week I'd spend it mainly on infrastructure projects in the UK.
The North desperately needs better train and tram services and we also need more east to west routes. I'd fund HS3 and crossrail 2 and start a competition for cities to set-up new tram routes. I'd also fund an extension to the Glasgow underground and a refurbishment of the most rundown London Underground stations.
I'd keep some money back (about 10% or £35m a week) to fund more public sports venues like Swimming pools with gym + sports hall and buy new school sports equipment.
I'd spend 5% or £17 on the NHS but the vast majority would be on things like solar panels and power banks so the NHS could save money in the future.
I'd lastly keep 5% or £17m (on top of what we're already paying to use them) a week to pay for the rather expensive UK tanker transports to get them back into full public ownership.

I feel this would create many new jobs while encouraging a healthy lifestyle and eventually when the tankers are paid for save a rather large chunk of change in interest and ongoing payments.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Future_St ... r_Aircraft

Peter Crisp wrote:

Moggy wrote:

Peter Crisp wrote:

Lagamorph wrote:We send £350million a week to Europe.
Let's spend it on a bridge to Europe instead.

This is slightly different as it would involve thousands of people on both sides and loads of work for suppliers.

Whereas healthcare doesn’t involve thousands of people or work for the suppliers?

This could be a topic in itself but if I were in charge of the £350m a week I'd spend it mainly on infrastructure projects in the UK.
The North desperately needs better train and tram services and we also need more east to west routes. I'd fund HS3 and crossrail 2 and start a competition for cities to set-up new tram routes. I'd also fund an extension to the Glasgow underground.
I'd keep some money back (about 10% or £35m a week) to fund more public sports venues like Swimming pools with gym + sports hall and buy new school sports equipment.
I'd spend 5% or £17 on the NHS but the vast majority would be on things like solar panels and power banks so the NHS could save money in the future.
I'd lastly keep 5% or £17m (on top of what we're already paying to use them) a week to pay for the rather expensive UK tanker transports to get them back into full public ownership.

I feel this would create many new jobs while encouraging a healthy lifestyle and eventually when the tankers are paid for save a rather large chunk of change in interest and ongoing payments.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Future_St ... r_Aircraft

I’ve got bad news for you, the £350 million doesn’t exist.

Moggy wrote:I’ve got bad news for you, the £350 million doesn’t exist.

I know but it would be interesting to see how people would spend such a large sum of money if they were given the opportunity.

Peter Crisp wrote:

Lagamorph wrote:We send £350million a week to Europe.
Let's spend it on a bridge to Europe instead.

This is slightly different as it would involve thousands of people on both sides and loads of work for suppliers.

Auf wiedersehen, pet.

There's nothing several thousand European construction workers, engineers, architects and financiers can do that a half dozen Geordie builders can't do.

Economic growth in 2018 could dwarf any Brexit hit according to one Remainer:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-42769090

Sceptical myself as economic predictions seem sketchy either way.

Yeah, but imagine economic growth with no brexit.

captain red dog wrote:Economic growth in 2018 could dwarf any Brexit hit according to one Remainer:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-42769090

Sceptical myself as economic predictions seem sketchy either way.

You’ve missed out that he said it is because the rest of the world is doing better than expected and also this crucial paragraph:

But he argued that far from "changing his mind" on the economic effects of Brexit, the question now for the UK was how much better the country could be doing without the uncertainty over its relationship with the European Union.

I hope it does cancel out any negative impact. We might have a bit of luck this year.

Squinty wrote:I hope it does cancel out any negative impact. We might have a bit of luck this year.

It’s not really cancelling out negative impacts as it just means we are not getting hit so hard. Plus this is all while we are still members of the EU.

It’s not actually a good story, it’s more “we’d be utterly strawberry floated if everyone else wasn’t doing so well”. How’s that for taking back control?

twitter.com/mk1969/status/955351292653834242

Moggy wrote:

captain red dog wrote:Economic growth in 2018 could dwarf any Brexit hit according to one Remainer:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-42769090

Sceptical myself as economic predictions seem sketchy either way.

You’ve missed out that he said it is because the rest of the world is doing better than expected and also this crucial paragraph:

But he argued that far from "changing his mind" on the economic effects of Brexit, the question now for the UK was how much better the country could be doing without the uncertainty over its relationship with the European Union.

Right, but that's a significant change in tone from the remain side. Until now we have been told that Brexit will be an absolute disaster. Now its a case of "well, we'd be doing slightly better in the EU".

For the record though, I don't personally put much stock in that report as economic predictions are a risky business.

His predict was based on a 3% per annum reduction in performance based on not going for a hard/no deal Brexit. On that basis, the increase in global productivity would outweigh the 3% reduction. But there was no indication that any of the performance was improved by being outside the EU, he is saying that this upturn would be in spite of Brexit not because of it.

captain red dog wrote:

Moggy wrote:

captain red dog wrote:Economic growth in 2018 could dwarf any Brexit hit according to one Remainer:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-42769090

Sceptical myself as economic predictions seem sketchy either way.

You’ve missed out that he said it is because the rest of the world is doing better than expected and also this crucial paragraph:

But he argued that far from "changing his mind" on the economic effects of Brexit, the question now for the UK was how much better the country could be doing without the uncertainty over its relationship with the European Union.

Right, but that's a significant change in tone from the remain side. Until now we have been told that Brexit will be an absolute disaster. Now its a case of "well, we'd be doing slightly better in the EU".

For the record though, I don't personally put much stock in that report as economic predictions are a risky business.

It’s not a significant change from the Remain side. First of all, one person doesn’t speak for every Remainer. That’s like me claiming that everything Farage says represents your opinion as well.

Secondly the economic prediction there is not a victory for the Leave side. It says that we are suffering economically because of Brexit and that it’ll likely get worse. The only thing saving us is that the rest of the world is doing well - that’s not a very positive statement of where leaving will take us.