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The Sun Says wrote:TODAY the EU must choose between its tedious game-playing and finally doing the right thing by its citizens and ours.

We suspect that nothing Theresa May could have said last night would have been enough.

She could have doubled the money on offer and they would have demanded more. She rightly stayed put.

If Brussels refuses to approve trade talks, the PM must set a deadline for the New Year. They must be ready to negotiate, or we change course for a no-deal.

Trading with the EU on WTO terms is not ideal — but it’s far from the catastrophe being hyped up by Remainers ­feeding off each other’s hysteria.

One man in Brussels yesterday contrived to embolden the EU against us: Jeremy Corbyn, the Walter Mitty of politics, apparently unaware he lost the election and won’t fight another till 2022.

EU politicians fed his fantasies by feting him as the “next Prime Minister”. And now they know he would sign any deal, at any price, they have every reason to play hardball with the REAL one, hoping she is toppled.

Whose side is Corbyn on . . . apart from his own? Certainly not Britain’s.

KK wrote:Here's what The Sun is saying today...

The Sun Says wrote:TODAY the EU must choose between its tedious game-playing and finally doing the right thing by its citizens and ours.

We suspect that nothing Theresa May could have said last night would have been enough.

She could have doubled the money on offer and they would have demanded more. She rightly stayed put.

If Brussels refuses to approve trade talks, the PM must set a deadline for the New Year. They must be ready to negotiate, or we change course for a no-deal.

Trading with the EU on WTO terms is not ideal — but it’s far from the catastrophe being hyped up by Remainers ­feeding off each other’s hysteria.

One man in Brussels yesterday contrived to embolden the EU against us: Jeremy Corbyn, the Walter Mitty of politics, apparently unaware he lost the election and won’t fight another till 2022.

EU politicians fed his fantasies by feting him as the “next Prime Minister”. And now they know he would sign any deal, at any price, they have every reason to play hardball with the REAL one, hoping she is toppled.

Whose side is Corbyn on . . . apart from his own? Certainly not Britain’s.

Ireland may become a jurisdiction for trillions of euro of financial contracts, covering everything from currency to fuel and interest-rate hedging agreements post-Brexit, under a plan being considered by a global body overseeing this market, The Irish Times has learned.
This would deliver a boon for corporate law firms in Dublin and potentially add to the International Financial Services Centre’s (IFSC) attraction as a base for global financial activities.

Lagamorph wrote:Yes, SHE needs to get it done. Yet there she is asking the EU to deliver a deal she can give to the British voters. She's basically asking/begging the EU to help her save face.
The entire Brexit strategy seems to be to try and put pressure on the EU to make them do all the thinking and all the work. Which is the opposite of what should be happening.

If we'd had a remotely competent negotiation team that bill probably could've been even lower. Then again if we had remotely competent leadership Brexit wouldn't be going ahead at all.

KK wrote:Here's what The Sun is saying today...

The Sun Says wrote:TODAY the EU must choose between its tedious game-playing and finally doing the right thing by its citizens and ours.

We suspect that nothing Theresa May could have said last night would have been enough.

She could have doubled the money on offer and they would have demanded more. She rightly stayed put.

If Brussels refuses to approve trade talks, the PM must set a deadline for the New Year. They must be ready to negotiate, or we change course for a no-deal.

Trading with the EU on WTO terms is not ideal — but it’s far from the catastrophe being hyped up by Remainers ­feeding off each other’s hysteria.

One man in Brussels yesterday contrived to embolden the EU against us: Jeremy Corbyn, the Walter Mitty of politics, apparently unaware he lost the election and won’t fight another till 2022.

EU politicians fed his fantasies by feting him as the “next Prime Minister”. And now they know he would sign any deal, at any price, they have every reason to play hardball with the REAL one, hoping she is toppled.

Whose side is Corbyn on . . . apart from his own? Certainly not Britain’s.

the Walter Mitty of politics

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Hexx wrote:Macron says progress isn't even half way there

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Speaking at the end of a two-day summit, Mr Tusk told reporters: "My impression is that the reports of the deadlock between the EU and the UK have been exaggerated."

French President Emmanuel Macron said: "I would say we are far from having reached the necessary financial commitments before we can open phase two.
"I can only underline how much work needs to be done."

German Chancellor Angela Merkel said there were "encouraging" signs of progress in Brexit negotiations and the process was progressing "step by step".

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Lagamorph wrote:Rumours circulating this morning that Theresa May has privately agreed to a €40billion exit bill.

I don't understand why it's a sticking point with leavers, it achieves 2 things, the prospect of leaving the EU sooner and also the chance of a 'soft brexit'.

I personally now think the UK is going to leave with no deal.

It's a sticking point because the money isn't legally owed, it's being demanded.

Lucien wrote:

DML wrote:

Lucien wrote:

Photek wrote:

Lagamorph wrote:Rumours circulating this morning that Theresa May has privately agreed to a €40billion exit bill.

I don't understand why it's a sticking point with leavers, it achieves 2 things, the prospect of leaving the EU sooner and also the chance of a 'soft brexit'.

I personally now think the UK is going to leave with no deal.

It's a sticking point because the money isn't legally owed, it's being demanded.

But in return you know....GET A DEAL.

I know. That is the sticking point though, no?

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DML wrote:Well is it?

They are saying thats how much they want for the deal. We are not willing to pay it. Why would they decrease that offer?

It is. Some don't want to pay money for a trade deal that benefits both sides, and they see the demand as wrong or insulting.

The EU has a similar approach, as they say they don't want a trade deal (which would benefit them) if they don't get the demand, and maybe they feel insulted.

Return_of_the_STAR wrote:What annoys me is the lack of foresight in all this. The current EU budget and it's commitments runs from 2014 to 2020. So should we have just agreed that we were leaving in 2020 instead of 2019 therefore would could fully keep to our budget commitments and then the following budgets after 2020 could have been agreed without British involvement.

Return_of_the_STAR wrote:What I am not convinced of is the talk of us continuing to pay towards pension contributions for EU staff after we leave. I need to her more of an explanation on this.