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Re: Brexit

Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2017 7:35 pm
by Garth
Member when £1 was $1.6? I member.

Re: Brexit

Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2017 7:41 pm
by Garth
I was shocked at the price of a Snickers today at my local shop, 84p for something that looks about half the size of the Snickers of old!

Re: Brexit

Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2017 7:47 pm
by KK
I stopped buying sweets from newsagents ages ago. If it wasn't for topping up my Oyster card I doubt I'd ever go in one again. These smaller supermarkets have killed them dead for me.

Sill never been into a Londis though.

Re: Brexit

Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2017 7:47 pm
by Hexx

twitter.com/AFP/status/857642198308990977



How unexpected :fp:

Re: Brexit

Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2017 7:57 pm
by Errkal
KK wrote:I stopped buying sweets from newsagents ages ago. If it wasn't for topping up my Oyster card I doubt I'd ever go in one again. These smaller supermarkets have killed them dead for me.

Sill never been into a Londis though.


Why top up your oyster card? Just a contactless card or Android/iOS pay?

Re: Brexit

Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2017 7:58 pm
by Errkal
Hexx wrote:

twitter.com/AFP/status/857642198308990977



How unexpected :fp:


Oh good she really is a strawberry floating idiot that thinks we should be given everything.

I didn't think anyone actually believed the "they need us more than we need them line"

Re: Brexit

Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2017 7:58 pm
by Moggy
Garth wrote:Member when £1 was $1.6? I member.


I can remember $2 to £1.

Re: Brexit

Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2017 8:04 pm
by Moggy
"We have seen Chancellor Merkel's comments today. She says the UK has 'illusions' about the process and that the 27 member states of the European Union agree.

"We can see how tough those negotiations are going to be at times," she said.

"Yet our opponents are already seeking to disrupt those negotiations, at the same time as 27 other European countries line up to oppose us.

"That approach can only mean one thing, uncertainty and instability, bringing grave risk to our growing economy with higher taxes, fewer jobs, more waste and more debt.

"So we need the strongest possible hand, the strongest possible mandate and the strongest possible leadership as we go into those talks."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-39737216


:fp:

Re: Brexit

Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2017 8:28 pm
by DML
It's going to be cringeworthy when we get no deal.

Re: Brexit

Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2017 8:33 pm
by Meep
How dare Her Majesty's official opposition oppose anything! Highly irresponsible. Obviously the way to ensure the best result for the UK is to make sure the government is not held to account for any of its plans.

Re: Brexit

Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2017 8:40 pm
by Rightey
To be fair to her, the ruling government trying to per-emptively blame the opposition for their failures isn't a new tactic.

Re: Brexit

Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2017 8:46 pm
by Meep
Won't a huge victory make that much harder though? If they get a huge majority they won't be able to point the finger at anyone in two years time. Their party brought about Brexit, their party negotiated leaving, their party is to blame for any damage. If they mess up particularly badly the other parties could be beating them with this stick for decades.

This pretty much forces the Conservative party into a single stance: "Brexit will be / Is brilliant" no matter what, this year and every other going forward. Any remain inclined Tories better get used to singing that tune or get off the ship because anything less will be to attack their own party.

Re: Brexit

Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2017 8:50 pm
by Errkal
DML wrote:It's going to be cringeworthy when we get no deal.

I honestly don't think we will. Our dick government is going to just stand there shouting GIVE US EVERYTHING like children and the timer will run out.

Re: Brexit

Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2017 8:57 pm
by Moggy
Errkal wrote:
DML wrote:It's going to be cringeworthy when we get no deal.

I honestly don't think we will. Our dick government is going to just stand there shouting GIVE US EVERYTHING like children and the timer will run out.


There is absolutely no incentive for the EU to give the UK exactly what it wants. That's not bullying or picking on us, it's just what happens when you leave a union.

I'm sure the Tory hierarchy know that but they're in an impossible position. They have fully accepted Brexit, they know what that will mean but they also know they'll have to placate the hordes of Leave voters who were sold the lie that somehow we will be better off.

May's hope is that she wins big in the election and that they can somehow either make everyone believe it's all the EU's fault or that somehow they get decent trade deals before 2022. I'm betting that she'll just blame the EU for being bullies and that the masses will be pulled along with the nationalist anti-EU sentiment.

Re: Brexit

Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2017 9:00 pm
by Errkal
Moggy wrote:
Errkal wrote:
DML wrote:It's going to be cringeworthy when we get no deal.

I honestly don't think we will. Our dick government is going to just stand there shouting GIVE US EVERYTHING like children and the timer will run out.


There is absolutely no incentive for the EU to give the UK exactly what it wants. That's not bullying or picking on us, it's just what happens when you leave a union.

I'm sure the Tory hierarchy know that but they're in an impossible position. They have fully accepted Brexit, they know what that will mean but they also know they'll have to placate the hordes of Leave voters who were sold the lie that somehow we will be better off.

May's hope is that she wins big in the election and that they can somehow either make everyone believe it's all the EU's fault or that somehow they get decent trade deals before 2022. I'm betting that she'll just blame the EU for being bullies and that the masses will be pulled along with the nationalist anti-EU sentiment.


Yeah her and the mail etc. Will blame the EU for everything and idiots will go right along with it despite it taking a second of actual thought to see it's bollocks, but they won't want to admit they were wrong so will have to blame someone else.

Re: Brexit

Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2017 10:11 pm
by Lagamorph
At this point I'm hoping for the humiliation option. Same benefits of membership we have now like single market and freedom of movement, but we have to pay money and have no day in things whatsoever so that we can at least say we technically have left the EU.

Humiliating yes, but a damn sight better than the alternatives.

Re: Brexit

Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2017 11:08 pm
by Benzin
I think Dacre and Co would probably implode if we ended up keeping freedom of movement given they spent have their lives telling people about the invading hordes of Turks/Romanians/Syrians heading for us...

Doubt the 'WILL OF THE PEOPLE' would allow the government to end up in that situation though...

Re: Brexit

Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2017 12:28 am
by bear

twitter.com/hendopolis/status/857693661924077570


Re: Brexit

Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2017 6:44 am
by Moggy
As the article says, it would just be following the terms of the Good Friday agreement. So no change to anything at all.

And people think Remain were "Project Fear". :lol:

Re: Brexit

Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2017 7:46 am
by Squinty
Not sure we are ready.

In saying that, I think it would be a good thing and it's only a matter of time.