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Re: Brexit

Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2018 12:45 pm
by Cuttooth
KK wrote:The way that's structured at the start makes it look like they're talking about themselves, which makes it even funnier.

Genuinely thought it was from Private Eye at first.

Re: Brexit

Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2018 1:03 pm
by Hypes
Cheeky Devlin wrote:
Hexx wrote:

twitter.com/Otto_English/status/974426572123000833


I've not watched the clip but it seems that guy must have read my tinfoil hat conspiracy in the thread and took it seriously.

Cheeky Devlin wrote:Tinfoil hat based speculation here....

Kill the former Russian spy, blame it on Moscow and use it as a pretence to cancel Brexit (Which she knows is lose/lose). Higher tensions with Russia (possibly leading to more serious events) put us in a position where "now is not the time" for Brexit. It allows her to appear strong and decisive, get's her out of the Brexit mess (Or very least punts it down the road a fair bit) and strengthens ties with our allies. The downside to this plan is potential nuclear annihilation though so that makes it unlikely (But still possibly preferable to Brexit).

I don't actually believe any of that by the way, but I enjoy thinking up alternative scenarios.


:lol: :lol:


I just thought you'd shaved and put on a bit of weight

Re: Brexit

Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2018 3:09 pm
by Lagamorph

twitter.com/SkyNewsBreak/status/974586105793261568



Taking back control of our borders apparently means just not enforcing them at all.

Re: Brexit

Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2018 3:15 pm
by Moggy
Lagamorph wrote:

twitter.com/SkyNewsBreak/status/974586105793261568



Taking back control of our borders apparently means just not enforcing them at all.


That's what Grayling said last night, the border at Dover will be "electronic".

Yeah, that'll work..... :slol:

Re: Brexit

Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2018 3:21 pm
by Lex-Man
Moggy wrote:
Lagamorph wrote:

twitter.com/SkyNewsBreak/status/974586105793261568



Taking back control of our borders apparently means just not enforcing them at all.


That's what Grayling said last night, the border at Dover will be "electronic".

Yeah, that'll work..... :slol:


We don't need the EU to tell us to shut the door, we're leave it wide open if we want.

Re: Brexit

Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2018 3:34 pm
by Moggy
lex-man wrote:
Moggy wrote:
Lagamorph wrote:

twitter.com/SkyNewsBreak/status/974586105793261568



Taking back control of our borders apparently means just not enforcing them at all.


That's what Grayling said last night, the border at Dover will be "electronic".

Yeah, that'll work..... :slol:


We don't need the EU to tell us to shut the door, we're leave it wide open if we want.


We are sick of having an open border with the rest of Europe. Our solution is to open it to the entire world!

Re: Brexit

Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2018 2:15 pm
by Squinty
Just caught up on QT. That panel guy getting really angry at the dude who said the Russia thing is a smokescreen to cancel Brexit :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Brexit

Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2018 2:38 pm
by Oblomov Boblomov
Squinty wrote:Just caught up on QT. That panel guy getting really angry at the dude who said the Russia thing is a smokescreen to cancel Brexit :lol: :lol: :lol:

So he should. strawberry floating conspiracy theorists :fp:.

Re: Brexit

Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2018 11:38 am
by Moggy
Ireland should leave the Single Market and Customs Union because that’s logical.

Mr Rees-Mogg, who is chairman of the influential European Research Group of Conservative backbenchers, hit out at the EU for suggesting Northern Ireland could stay in the customs union after Brexit to avoid border checks on goods coming from the Republic.

He said: "I think they’re the stick in the muds in this and have come up with a solution that is wholly impossible for the United Kingdom to accept, that we should take Northern Ireland out of the United Kingdom.

"Why don’t we suggest to them that the Republic of Ireland comes out of the single market and customs union and accepts our regulations? It’s an equally logical suggestion."

On warnings by some Remainers that a hard border in Ireland could result in a return of the Troubles, Mr Rees-Mogg said: "I think it’s a politically unappealing and cynical approach to suggest that violence may be a consequence of not doing what the pro-Europeans want, and they should think whether that is a wise approach to take.

"Once you start proposing that violence may be a consequence of something, you’re almost encouraging violence. So, people making that argument should think very carefully about the wisdom of that argument."

https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk/de ... se-baltics


:lol:

Re: Brexit

Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2018 11:40 am
by Photek
That’s rage inducing, does he think we are still under English rule?

Re: Brexit

Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2018 12:02 pm
by captain red dog
He's obviously being facetious. What he is saying is that he thinks it's as outrageous to suggest NI stays in the customs union as it is to suggest Rep of Ireland come out of the single market.

Re: Brexit

Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2018 12:03 pm
by Lex-Man
I'm not really surprised, he was the one who suggested sending a flag to France to show we normally beat them in wars.

Re: Brexit

Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2018 1:07 pm
by Moggy
captain red dog wrote:He's obviously being facetious. What he is saying is that he thinks it's as outrageous to suggest NI stays in the customs union as it is to suggest Rep of Ireland come out of the single market.


It’s not though is it? The U.K. are the ones leaving the club, it’s reasonable that the U.K. then has to accept such changes.

Re: Brexit

Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2018 1:07 pm
by Moggy
Photek wrote:That’s rage inducing, does he think we are still under English rule?


Seeing as he is from the year 1818, yes I imagine he does think that.

Re: Brexit

Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2018 1:23 pm
by Garth
Moggy wrote:It’s not though is it? The U.K. are the ones leaving the club, it’s reasonable that the U.K. then has to accept such changes.

It was also the Will of the People™ of NI to remain. UK should compromise.

Re: Brexit

Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2018 1:25 pm
by Moggy
Garth wrote:
Moggy wrote:It’s not though is it? The U.K. are the ones leaving the club, it’s reasonable that the U.K. then has to accept such changes.

It was also the Will of the People™ of NI to remain.


That doesn’t count because there are more English (and Welsh) people and so their will of the people counts for more.

Re: Brexit

Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2018 9:44 pm
by Hypes
Moggy wrote:
Garth wrote:
Moggy wrote:It’s not though is it? The U.K. are the ones leaving the club, it’s reasonable that the U.K. then has to accept such changes.

It was also the Will of the People™ of NI to remain.


That doesn’t count because there are more English (and Welsh) people and so their will of the people counts for more.


Also, Will of the People only applies to people who voted leave

Re: Brexit

Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2018 11:57 am
by Hexx
Predictions then?



Lots of caving in waffle and smoke to disguise how bitter pill we're swallowing.



End date set by the EU

The UK will have to follow all the rules still. Some vague promise that UK will be "listened to", but won't have a say as now

Maybe allowed to talk trade deals with other countries? (But only to come into effect post transition?)

Re: Brexit

Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2018 12:29 pm
by DML
Looks like a soft Brexit after all.

Re: Brexit

Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2018 12:48 pm
by Hexx

twitter.com/jrmaidment/status/975705022934716417