Brexit

Qikz wrote:Some twat Northern Irish asshole who is the one MP from NI who lobbied for leave is saying he's ordering his party to all vote for leave, as "the northern irish have no right to say what happens to the entire UK" and the people in his constituency who voted for leave "made the right choice".

How is this legal and or fair that this is happening. An entire population of 2 countries and 16.1 million or however many in this country are being completely and utterly ignored. strawberry float the referendum. strawberry float David Cameron and strawberry float everything.

Rocsteady wrote:

Qikz wrote:Some twat Northern Irish asshole who is the one MP from NI who lobbied for leave is saying he's ordering his party to all vote for leave, as "the northern irish have no right to say what happens to the entire UK" and the people in his constituency who voted for leave "made the right choice".

How is this legal and or fair that this is happening. An entire population of 2 countries and 16.1 million or however many in this country are being completely and utterly ignored. strawberry float the referendum. strawberry float David Cameron and strawberry float everything.

You need to chill out, I'm as sad as anyone but it's happening.

I said many years ago when it happened that I wished it'd been Ken Clarke that had won the Tory leadership election instead of Cameron, how I really wish that had been the case.

Squinty wrote:I wonder who this NI MP Staydead mentioned is. I have a fair idea of who might've said that.

Googling gives me nothing, I'd love a link.

lex-man wrote:When are they going to vote?

Squinty wrote:Cheers Staydead.

He used to be the finance minister over here. He is a twat. But then most of his party are.

BBC News wrote:The proprietor of the Daily Mail told its editor that David Cameron pressed for him to be sacked during the EU referendum, BBC Newsnight has learned.

Lord Rothermere told Paul Dacre the prime minister urged him to rein in his pro-Brexit editor, then suggested he sack him, a source told the BBC.

The Mail mounted a vociferous campaign for Brexit in the run up to the vote.

A spokesman for Mr Cameron said he "did not believe he could determine who edits the Daily Mail".

The disclosure casts fresh light on one of the most bitter personal enmities of the Brexit campaign.

Newsnight understands the prime minister personally tried to persuade Mr Dacre to "cut him some slack" in a private meeting in his No 10 Downing Street flat on 2 February, the day European Council President Donald Tusk unveiled details of the deal negotiated by Mr Cameron for the UK.

Mr Dacre told Mr Cameron he would not temper his editorial line on Brexit because he had been a committed Eurosceptic for more than 25 years and believed his readers were too.

In early March, Mr Dacre was told by a Westminster source that the prime minister had tried to persuade Lord Rothermere, a strong supporter of the UK remaining in the EU, to sack him. The Daily Mail editor was said to be "incandescent" and his resolve to campaign for Brexit "stiffened".

Only after the referendum, in July, did Lord Rothermere tell his editor of the pressure he said the prime minister had applied.

The Daily Mail's sustained and strident campaign for Brexit is regarded by some observers as a significant factor contributing to June's historic vote to leave the EU.

Though the Mail backed Mr Cameron in the 2015 election campaign, Mr Dacre and the prime minister enjoyed a frosty relationship since Mr Cameron ordered the Leveson inquiry into media ethics in 2011. According to one source, Mr Dacre refused to take Mr Cameron's calls for months following the launch of the inquiry.

A spokesman for Lord Rothermere refused to confirm or deny whether Mr Cameron had sought Mr Dacre's dismissal but said: "Over the years, Lord Rothermere has been leant on by more than one prime minister to remove Associated Newspapers' editors but, as he told Lord Justice Leveson on oath, he does not interfere with the editorial policies of his papers."

Mr Dacre declined to comment on whether Mr Cameron had sought his dismissal. In a statement he said: "For 25 years, I have been given the freedom to edit the Mail on behalf of its readers without interference from Jonathan Rothermere or his father. It has been a great joy and privilege."

A spokesman for Mr Cameron said: "It is wrong to suggest that David Cameron believed he could determine who edits the Daily Mail. It is a matter of public record that he made the case that it was wrong for newspapers to argue that we give up our membership of the EU. He made this argument privately to the editor of the Daily Mail, Paul Dacre, and its proprietor, Lord Rothermere."

Cuttooth wrote:It's staggering how he slipped away from politics so quickly.

Errkal wrote: I'm not sure the lose of remain is his fault.

Errkal wrote:But there wasnt much he could do, if he said prices would rise and the pound plummet it would be branded scar mongering and be ignored, if he said we wouldn't get free market without free movement it was project fear.

People didn't want the truth it seems they wanted the bullshit it's going to awesome lies of leave and nothing any body said could change that.

Calling the referendum was a mistake and obviously the blame for this mess is on him and clegg but it wasn't his fault he actual campaign lost.