Brexit

Banjo wrote:Both grandparents on my Dad's side.

Should be easyish for you then. You'll need birth, marriage and (if applicable) death certificates for your grandparent, dad and you. Also they will want proof of your address (3 bills) and signed copies of passports for all of you.

All the info and application forms are here: https://www.dfa.ie/irish-embassy/great- ... ion-guide/

Traitors.

Grumpy David wrote:I have dual nationality with Ireland (both parents born there) but haven't bothered to get an Irish passport. Apparently Irish passport office has been swamped for the last year with applications.

So just to be clear about his personal circumstances - of which he has informed us with some glee in this very thread - David won't be personally affected if the economy tanks because he has international investments, and he won't be personally affected by losing the individual perks of EU citizenship because he's a dual citizen. I hope everyone is sure to understand his support for Brexit in that context.

Karl wrote:

Grumpy David wrote:I have dual nationality with Ireland (both parents born there) but haven't bothered to get an Irish passport. Apparently Irish passport office has been swamped for the last year with applications.

So just to be clear about his personal circumstances - of which he has informed us with some glee in this very thread - David won't be personally affected if the economy tanks because he has international investments, and he won't be personally affected by losing the individual perks of EU citizenship because he's a dual citizen. I hope everyone is sure to understand his support for Brexit in that context.

Basically he is the same sort of Brexit support that fought for it, convincing millions to vote to ruin their lives because they themselves won't be hit by it so the lives of don't matter.

Karl wrote:

Grumpy David wrote:I have dual nationality with Ireland (both parents born there) but haven't bothered to get an Irish passport. Apparently Irish passport office has been swamped for the last year with applications.

So just to be clear about his personal circumstances - of which he has informed us with some glee in this very thread - David won't be personally affected if the economy tanks because he has international investments, and he won't be personally affected by losing the individual perks of EU citizenship because he's a dual citizen. I hope everyone is sure to understand his support for Brexit in that context.

I think this is mod-speak for "you're a strawberry floating banana split"

Personally speaking, I slept really well last night knowing GD will be able to ride out the incoming shitstorm with barely a scratch.

Karl wrote:

Grumpy David wrote:I have dual nationality with Ireland (both parents born there) but haven't bothered to get an Irish passport. Apparently Irish passport office has been swamped for the last year with applications.

So just to be clear about his personal circumstances - of which he has informed us with some glee in this very thread - David won't be personally affected if the economy tanks because he has international investments, and he won't be personally affected by losing the individual perks of EU citizenship because he's a dual citizen. I hope everyone is sure to understand his support for Brexit in that context.

My opinion that we should leave the EU goes back to at least 2008 when I was doing my A Levels, if not further back to when Ireland were made to vote again on the Lisbon treaty. This was way before I had any savings/full time employment. I originally only mentioned the surprise that my Vanguard fund was doing so well as a contrast to the articles in June last year with stock market drops showing. I only ever mentioned the percentage change, not the total value, it's not like I have an inflation linked annuity and don't have to work! Moggy has posted far more about my ISA than I have as he's successfully meme'd it.

As also mentioned back in May or June, I work in a job/industry that I expected would be impacted worse than other jobs/industries. I still voted for Leave because I genuinely believe it will be best for the country rather than what might have been in my own self-interest for job security.

I can only speak English so my options for working in EU states is limited, not to mention, most places are doing worse than us and I can't see that changing whilst being shackled to the Euro. I'd only have Ireland as a viable option, to which the CTA applied before we ever joined the EU so anyone British has indefinite right to live and work in Ireland.

Most EU states have English as the second language, I managed to get an interview for a Dutch company even though I can barely speak it (and the interview was only in English)...

Europeans pretty much know we're ignorant of language, but I'd presume that a role there would involve some sending on language courses too...

And of course the reason why things haven't been largely affected is because we haven't left yet... Why does that not seem to be understood?

David, I find your reasons for voting leave very outstanding. I just really don't understand it. I respect that you voted the way you did, but despite you explaining it I really can't work out why on earth you voted that away. You've voted (along with a lot of other people) against your own self interest for an alice in wonderland style scenario of where Britain is magically going to stay relevant once we leave the EU.

The reason why we joined the EU in the first place was because our Economy was never going to last on the world stage on it's own. Also, not to forget that ever since we joined the EU we've always had a better deal than absolutely everyone else in it, because we're greedy strawberry floaters who always wanted more and we got away with it. Us leaving the EU is basically like someone leaving a rich family where you get everything paid for for you to go live on the streets as you think you can make it on your own, when in reality everything points to that not being true.

"I could never go get a job anywhere else, because I only know English" - Well that's great, rather than learn the different languages yourself, let's vote to block anyone who does want to put in the effort from being freely able to go and live and work in a different country. Thanks a lot David. I really appreciate it.

Dual wrote:Traitors.

Qikz wrote:David, I find your reasons for voting leave very outstanding.

When did Staydead jump to UKIP?

Moggy wrote:

Qikz wrote:David, I find your reasons for voting leave very outstanding.

When did Staydead jump to UKIP?

What can I say.

You know the other option when you can't speak the language is to learn it! Or should everyone else make the effort to learn English for you?

I dont speak another language and don't have the inclination to learn one, I don't go abroad as I like the uk and don't care much for sun and heat. Maybe I should have voted leave because I don't want to go somewhere so why would anyone else.

You really a special type of person.

All this nastiness, bitching and name calling is missing the most important fact on this page. I created a successful meme!

Moggy wrote:All this nastiness, bitching and name calling is missing the most important fact on this page. I created a successful meme!

Nice work. As I can't meme and have no interest in memeing I think I will vote to ban memes.

Errkal wrote:

Moggy wrote:All this nastiness, bitching and name calling is missing the most important fact on this page. I created a successful meme!

Nice work. As I can't meme and have no interest in memeing I think I will vote to ban memes.

I've put most of my investments into memes and am getting a very nice return on it at the moment. If it all goes wrong then I do have a dual interest in gifs, although I never bothered learning how to make them.

I don't think Grumpy David was using the lack of speaking another language as a reason to leave the EU. More a rebuttal to the assertion that he'll be free to reap all the benefits of EU membership, as realistically, he'll still be restricted to working in the UK or Ireland because of his lack of language skills.

It doesn't matter what reasoning he, or anyone else, uses though, there were literally 0 legitimate reasons to vote leave. Every reason to vote leave was based on lies, delusion, stupidity or racism, or some combination of the four.

Knoyleo wrote:I don't think Grumpy David was using the lack of speaking another language as a reason to leave the EU. More a rebuttal to the assertion that he'll be free to reap all the benefits of EU membership, as realistically, he'll still be restricted to working in the UK or Ireland because of his lack of language skills.

I would hope no one assumed the first point. I was referring to KP making it sound like I can easily work in 27 other EU states, legally, I can, even after Brexit, practically, I'd be limited to English speaking countries. And even if most of the countries spoke English in the workplace and social settings, many of the EU €uro countries aren't offering the economic opportunities to make a move result in me being better off, or the average Brit better off. I can't see that changing whilst they're stuck in the €uro. With some exceptions (Sweden and Denmark), the non-€uro countries are much poorer than even the near bankrupt €urozone.