Brexit

I see Boris turned his back on giving £350million to the NHS after Brexit. I wonder why? Could it be that that figure was a load of lying bollocks?

Surely not!

Hexx wrote:

twitter.com/jeremycorbyn/status/829436790763315207

strawberry float you

My god, how can he expect to do anything? Deluded.

We've seen how well Corbyn fights against the Tory government. I don't expect anything to change.

Moggy wrote:We've seen how well Corbyn fights against the Tory government. I don't expect anything to change.

Honestly in Parliment, Corbyn actually does a pretty good job of trying to roast Fuhress May. The issue is that rather than ever answer his questions she dodges them and then insults Corbyn one way or the other. I don't think she's ever actually answered a question that was submitted to her in parliament without completely either a) answering a question that nobody was asking with a token response and b) ignore what was asked her and insult the other party while cackling like a witch.

I officially do not support Corbyn anymore however. He can get himself strawberry floated along with the rest of Labour. strawberry float each and every one of them for being massive banana splits and supporting the Fuhress.

I cannot drag myself to watch the PMQ's anymore. It is depressing as strawberry float. Legitimate questions being asked, with no answers given beyond a deflection and an insult.

A genuinely frustrating experience to watch. Just hammers home how much of a banana split Theresa 'I would nuke innocents' May is.

Qikz wrote:I officially do not support Corbyn anymore however. He can get himself strawberry floated along with the rest of Labour. strawberry float each and every one of them for being massive banana splits and supporting the Fuhress.

Even the ones that voted against her?

Moggy wrote:

Qikz wrote:I officially do not support Corbyn anymore however. He can get himself strawberry floated along with the rest of Labour. strawberry float each and every one of them for being massive banana splits and supporting the Fuhress.

Even the ones that voted against her?

The ones that voted against are fine. I just wouldn't support them anymore due to the party they represent.

Labour have been awful since the Blair years. They went more right wing than ever and it appears that they're happy to race the Conservatives to the right rather than actually caring about the people they claim they do.

Qikz wrote:

Moggy wrote:

Qikz wrote:I officially do not support Corbyn anymore however. He can get himself strawberry floated along with the rest of Labour. strawberry float each and every one of them for being massive banana splits and supporting the Fuhress.

Even the ones that voted against her?

The ones that voted against are fine. I just wouldn't support them anymore due to the party they represent.

Labour have been awful since the Blair years. They went more right wing than ever and it appears that they're happy to race the Conservatives to the right rather than actually caring about the people they claim they do.

You think Corbyn is racing towards the right?

Moggy wrote:

Qikz wrote:

Moggy wrote:

Qikz wrote:I officially do not support Corbyn anymore however. He can get himself strawberry floated along with the rest of Labour. strawberry float each and every one of them for being massive banana splits and supporting the Fuhress.

Even the ones that voted against her?

The ones that voted against are fine. I just wouldn't support them anymore due to the party they represent.

Labour have been awful since the Blair years. They went more right wing than ever and it appears that they're happy to race the Conservatives to the right rather than actually caring about the people they claim they do.

You think Corbyn is racing towards the right?

By not doing anything? Yes he is.

Corbyn is left wing and I respect that, but like strawberry float has he done anything to try and actively stop the tories from being what they are. He may not be directly racing himself, but he's certainly implicit in the shift due to not using his power to actually help people who do not submit to the tories views.

The PM dodging questions at PMQs is absolutely nothing new. May is doing the exact same thing as Cameron, Brown, Blair, Major, Thatcher, etc and everyone else who came before her.

Qikz wrote:

Moggy wrote:

Qikz wrote:

Moggy wrote:

Qikz wrote:I officially do not support Corbyn anymore however. He can get himself strawberry floated along with the rest of Labour. strawberry float each and every one of them for being massive banana splits and supporting the Fuhress.

Even the ones that voted against her?

The ones that voted against are fine. I just wouldn't support them anymore due to the party they represent.

Labour have been awful since the Blair years. They went more right wing than ever and it appears that they're happy to race the Conservatives to the right rather than actually caring about the people they claim they do.

You think Corbyn is racing towards the right?

By not doing anything? Yes he is.

Corbyn is left wing and I respect that, but like strawberry float has he done anything to try and actively stop the tories from being what they are. He may not be directly racing himself, but he's certainly implicit in the shift due to not using his power to actually help people who do not submit to the tories views.

Comrade Corbyn has no reason to do anything now, his life's work has been achieved. He spent his entire political career wanting the UK out of the EU and now that it's happening he's going to do absolutely nothing to fight against it besides make a few token tweets to cling on to power for as long as he can.

Qikz wrote:

Moggy wrote:

Qikz wrote:

Moggy wrote:

Qikz wrote:I officially do not support Corbyn anymore however. He can get himself strawberry floated along with the rest of Labour. strawberry float each and every one of them for being massive banana splits and supporting the Fuhress.

Even the ones that voted against her?

The ones that voted against are fine. I just wouldn't support them anymore due to the party they represent.

Labour have been awful since the Blair years. They went more right wing than ever and it appears that they're happy to race the Conservatives to the right rather than actually caring about the people they claim they do.

You think Corbyn is racing towards the right?

By not doing anything? Yes he is.

Corbyn is left wing and I respect that, but like strawberry float has he done anything to try and actively stop the tories from being what they are. He may not be directly racing himself, but he's certainly implicit in the shift due to not using his power to actually help people who do not submit to the tories views.

Not doing anything is not the same thing as racing towards the right.

Corbyn has never been keen on the EU but he comes at it from a far left perspective rather than a far right perspective. It’s what happens when somebody gets further and further from the middle ground, they tend to end up looking the same as their enemies, even if they have different reasons for it.

The thing that annoys me about last nights votes is the one that meant the government is explicitly ignoring the Good Friday Agreement. I've always been a Unionist but as someone who grew up in a healing, post troubles Northern Ireland it's making me start to seriously question how much it really benefits NI to continue the arrangement. We aren't just an unconvenience, we're an irrelevance. Our little peace treaty that formally ended 30 years of civil war, decades of explicit discrimination, and gave some building blocks for a better future simply doesn't matter when the English want to be small minded and inwards looking idiots about things they aren't even stopping with this idiotic economic self harm.

Obviously there's a bit more at stake like the fact about half the economy is directly or indirectly taxpayer funded, the brain drain of smart young people having to leave for the mainland etc but as a statement last night was a massive strawberry float you from the British government to the people of NI.

what part of the GFA are you talking about Wrathy? not being flippant; ive never read it

On my phone so can't look up as much detail as I'd like just now myself, but the main problem is that the GFA has two sections which directly refer to the European Convention of Human Rights (notably page 20 section 2) as intrinsic for working towards the equality of citizens in NI. Withdrawing from the EU and replacing the ECHR with a British Bill of Rights would be a symbolic but extremely divisive move. Our politicians have mainly been talking in vague terms about this so far http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-38919953 but basically it puts the entire constitution of Northern Ireland post-Troubles into question

If this goes tits up, NI will more than likely be the worst affected in the union by exiting.

After this whole Brexit clusterfuck I genuinely don't know which party I'd actually vote for in the event of an election, none of them seem to be capable of running the country.

Tories don't care about ordinary people, Labour are seemingly in anarchy, Lib dems are utterly useless and Ukip are banana splits.

Ironhide wrote:After this whole Brexit clusterfuck I genuinely don't know which party I'd actually vote for in the event of an election, none of them seem to be capable of running the country.

Tories don't care about ordinary people, Labour are seemingly in anarchy, Lib dems are utterly useless and Ukip are banana splits.

Could be worse, I have to choose a Northern Irish politician to vote for.

Hexx wrote:

twitter.com/jeremycorbyn/status/829436790763315207

strawberry float you

This is kind of like throwing your weapon off a cliff and then saying you'll do whatever it takes to win the battle. Labour just willingly voted away all control they had over this process; the Tories have total control of the negotiations now and they will do what is best for them and theirs.

Wrathy wrote:The thing that annoys me about last nights votes is the one that meant the government is explicitly ignoring the Good Friday Agreement. I've always been a Unionist but as someone who grew up in a healing, post troubles Northern Ireland it's making me start to seriously question how much it really benefits NI to continue the arrangement. We aren't just an unconvenience, we're an irrelevance. Our little peace treaty that formally ended 30 years of civil war, decades of explicit discrimination, and gave some building blocks for a better future simply doesn't matter when the English want to be small minded and inwards looking idiots about things they aren't even stopping with this idiotic economic self harm.

Obviously there's a bit more at stake like the fact about half the economy is directly or indirectly taxpayer funded, the brain drain of smart young people having to leave for the mainland etc but as a statement last night was a massive strawberry float you from the British government to the people of NI.

I used to support remaining in the UK because it seemed the best option for the continued welfare of NI, however that is not the case any more. After the Brexit vote and looking to the ROI where they are having amazing levels of growth and investment compared to up here I think it's fairly clear that being in a united Ireland makes much more sense than being partitioned off by the border controls that will surely come into force after leaving the EU. Unfortunately, unless there is a miraculous conversion of the population here in their tribal loyalties I don't think this will happen and the south will proceed to speed well ahead of us. Our best and brightest will either cross the border to work in Dublin or go to London (which will probably remain relatively wealthy even if the rest of the UK declines after withdrawing).

Ironhide wrote:After this whole Brexit clusterfuck I genuinely don't know which party I'd actually vote for in the event of an election, none of them seem to be capable of running the country.

Tories don't care about ordinary people, Labour are seemingly in anarchy, Lib dems are utterly useless and Ukip are banana splits.

Green?

I'd look at local independents, see if any of them are standing on important local issues. The country's strawberry floated, you might as well get someone who will stand up for your area.

I wouldn't be all too surprised if there wasn't a lib dem resurgence.