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Should the United Kingdom remain a member of the European Union or leave the European Union?

Remain a member of the European Union
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Leave the European Union
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Total votes: 279
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PostRe: The EU Referendum: The UK votes Leave
by Return_of_the_STAR » Fri Feb 17, 2017 10:14 am

Blair was actually a great prime minister attribute wise. He just made a few poor decisions.

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PostRe: The EU Referendum: The UK votes Leave
by Moggy » Fri Feb 17, 2017 10:30 am

Blair's an utter twat but that doesn't make him wrong on every issue.

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PostRe: The EU Referendum: The UK votes Leave
by DML » Fri Feb 17, 2017 10:32 am

At least with Trump the Americans can hope for impeachment.

I know we're stuck with Leave idiots for years. strawberry floats sake.

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PostRe: The EU Referendum: The UK votes Leave
by Errkal » Fri Feb 17, 2017 10:33 am

Return_of_the_STAR wrote:Blair was actually a great prime minister attribute wise. He just made a few poor decisions.


This, people came a long way in terms of standard of living etc. as you say he made a few poor choices and that has branded him a dick, however not all he says and does is wrong or bad.

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PostRe: The EU Referendum: The UK votes Leave
by Lex-Man » Fri Feb 17, 2017 10:40 am

Regardless of what Blair actually did, his brand is currently poison. While I agree with his views I actually think he's just damaging the remainers case by backing it.

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PostRe: The EU Referendum: The UK votes Leave
by Preezy » Fri Feb 17, 2017 11:24 am

Isn't this all a bit academic now though? The wheels are in motion and there's no way to put the brakes on, we're all heading off the Brexit cliff together.

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PostRe: The EU Referendum: The UK votes Leave
by That » Fri Feb 17, 2017 11:34 am

I want to get off Mr. Cameron's Wild Ride.

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PostRe: The EU Referendum: The UK votes Leave
by BID0 » Fri Feb 17, 2017 12:50 pm

UK retail sales fall unexpectedly
Breaking: UK retail sales have fallen for the third month running, fuelling concerns that consumers are cutting back as inflation rises.

The volume of goods sold online and on the high street shrank by 0.3% in January. That follows a downwardly-revised 2.1% plunge in December.

That’s a big shock for the City - most economists expected retail sales to bounce back last month.

The Office for National Statistics also found that retail sales fell by 0.4% over the last quarter, compared to the previous three months - the first fall since December 2013.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/li ... 65848ec732


And with Article 50 being triggered imminently :datass:

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PostRe: The EU Referendum: The UK votes Leave
by Photek » Fri Feb 17, 2017 12:55 pm

Irish Passport office hiring over 200 extra staff to cope with Brexit demand.

https://www.rte.ie/news/2017/0216/853015-passports/

Also, Microsoft just announced 600 jobs in Dublin. :)

https://www.rte.ie/news/2017/0217/853316-microsoft/

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PostRe: The EU Referendum: The UK votes Leave
by Moggy » Fri Feb 17, 2017 1:18 pm

Photek wrote:Irish Passport office hiring over 200 extra staff to cope with Brexit demand.

https://www.rte.ie/news/2017/0216/853015-passports/


Good, I submitted my application in November and still haven't heard back.

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PostRe: The EU Referendum: The UK votes Leave
by Lex-Man » Fri Feb 17, 2017 1:24 pm

Photek wrote:Irish Passport office hiring over 200 extra staff to cope with Brexit demand.

https://www.rte.ie/news/2017/0216/853015-passports/

Also, Microsoft just announced 600 jobs in Dublin. :)

https://www.rte.ie/news/2017/0217/853316-microsoft/


Brexit, great for Ireland. Well most of it.

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PostRe: The EU Referendum: The UK votes Leave
by Return_of_the_STAR » Fri Feb 17, 2017 2:20 pm

Retail dales plummeting after Christmas, who would have thought it. What the reports are missing out is that sales dropped in December because November was higher than expected. More people appeared to take advantage of November sales and do there Christmas shopping in November. I know I finished my Xmas shopping before December.

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PostRe: The EU Referendum: The UK votes Leave
by BID0 » Fri Feb 17, 2017 3:01 pm

Return_of_the_STAR wrote:Retail dales plummeting after Christmas, who would have thought it. What the reports are missing out is that sales dropped in December because November was higher than expected. More people appeared to take advantage of November sales and do there Christmas shopping in November. I know I finished my Xmas shopping before December.

That's true however even against projected forecasts its dropped and caused the value of the £ to drop with it. Which makes things cost more and so on and so forth

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PostRe: The EU Referendum: The UK votes Leave
by OrangeRKN » Fri Feb 17, 2017 3:18 pm

I have no idea what that graph is showing, can someone please explain it

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PostRe: The EU Referendum: The UK votes Leave
by That » Fri Feb 17, 2017 3:26 pm

OrangeRakoon wrote:I have no idea what that graph is showing, can someone please explain it


I too am pretty baffled. In general, I can't believe the shite economists get away with in their papers -- awful data presentation. Much worse than biology, and that's really saying something.

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PostRe: The EU Referendum: The UK votes Leave
by Rax » Fri Feb 17, 2017 3:32 pm

I think it shows how quantity bought (number of items per transaction?), how much they spend and the average price in supermarkets? So it looks like prices went up so people bought fewer things and spent less overall. Quelle surprise.

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PostRe: The EU Referendum: The UK votes Leave
by BID0 » Fri Feb 17, 2017 3:59 pm

Rax wrote:I think it shows how quantity bought (number of items per transaction?), how much they spend and the average price in supermarkets? So it looks like prices went up so people bought fewer things and spent less overall. Quelle surprise.

Basically this yes. Each data point being a month since May 2010. We seemed to buy lots of lower valued items back then, the amount spent trended alongside the store prices. I think the first tiny drop before it recovered and then declined in October was roughly the EU vote.

It's a shame the X axis is marked every 8 months because it makes it a lot more difficult to figure out YoY comparisons. At least from my phone anyway.

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PostRe: The EU Referendum: The UK votes Leave
by OrangeRKN » Fri Feb 17, 2017 4:12 pm

And it's all compared against the value of those three things sometime in 2013? So when amount spent is at ~102 that means it is 102% of what it was in that one month in 2013?

What I think I'm reading is that average store prices are cheaper than in 2013 while spending value and goods quantity is up?

I'd so much prefer to see the actual values for money spent/things bought/average price.

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PostRe: RE: Re: The EU Referendum: The UK votes Leave
by Dinoric » Fri Feb 17, 2017 4:47 pm

Qikz wrote:the sad thing is even if it goes wrong those idiots will blame remain voters for not pulling together

I'm sure that the EU will still be the target leave voters blame if everything goes wrong.

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PostRe: The EU Referendum: The UK votes Leave
by Dowbocop » Fri Feb 17, 2017 4:49 pm

Karl wrote:
OrangeRakoon wrote:I have no idea what that graph is showing, can someone please explain it


I too am pretty baffled. In general, I can't believe the shite economists get away with in their papers -- awful data presentation. Much worse than biology, and that's really saying something.

As a physiology graduate I'm offended by that assertion. I had a three colour graph like that in my physiology research project and it was clear and concise, backing up my argument fully. Granted, printing the strawberry floater on a black and white printer may have been a small error in judgement.


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