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Should the United Kingdom remain a member of the European Union or leave the European Union?

Remain a member of the European Union
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80%
Leave the European Union
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20%
 
Total votes: 279
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PostRe: Brexit
by Garth » Sat Apr 22, 2017 12:18 am

Trump puts EU ahead of Britain in trade queue
Merkel lands Brexit victory for Brussels

Britain has been pushed behind the European Union in the queue to strike a free-trade deal with the United States, officials in Washington have said.

President Trump has softened his opposition to negotiating with the bloc as a whole after attempts by his officials to open talks with individual European nations were rebuffed.

During a private conversation last month, Angela Merkel, the German chancellor, convinced Mr Trump that talks on a US-EU deal would be simpler than he thought, sources close to both sides of the discussion told The Times.

This led to a “realisation” in the Trump administration that a trade deal with the EU — allowing the tariff-free exchange of goods and services — was more important to US interests than a post-Brexit deal with Britain, a source close to the White House said.


The Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership (TTIP) trade deal between the EU and US, shelved after Mr Trump’s election victory, could now be revived or a new deal proposed.

The EU is America’s biggest trading partner: US exports to the bloc last year were worth $270 billion; it imported goods worth $417 billion. In the same period the US exported $55 billion in goods to Britain and imported $54 billion.

The development threatens to embarrass Boris Johnson, the foreign secretary, who after meeting Mr Trump’s advisers in January claimed that Britain would be “first in line” for a deal. A year ago Barack Obama warned that the UK would be at “the back of the queue” if it left the EU. Speaking alongside David Cameron in London, he said: “Maybe at some point down the line there might be a UK-US trade agreement but it’s not going to happen any time soon.”

Mr Trump’s change of heart has been put down to Mrs Merkel’s intransigence. After her trip to Washington, she briefed cabinet colleagues on what she said were “very basic misunder- standings” by Mr Trump on the “fundamentals” of the EU and trade.

“Ten times Trump asked her if he could negotiate a trade deal with Germany. Every time she replied, ‘You can’t do a trade deal with Germany, only the EU’,” a senior German politician said. “On the eleventh refusal, Trump finally got the message, ‘Oh, we’ll do a deal with Europe then.’ ” Cecilia Malmström, the EU’s trade commissioner, will visit Washington next week for informal talks with Wilbur Ross, the US commerce secretary, and other Trump officials. The EU and Mrs Malmström are keen not to appear to plead for the reopening of TTIP negotiations but will discuss the “economic and strategic rationale” for a deal if the American side does the same.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/trum ... -l7t8zwn7k

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PostRe: Brexit
by Lagamorph » Sat Apr 22, 2017 12:25 am

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PostRe: Brexit
by Errkal » Sat Apr 22, 2017 6:19 am

It is almost like trading with a large group of countries in a single deal offers a better deal or something......

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PostRe: Brexit
by Errkal » Sat Apr 22, 2017 6:22 am

There is also the minor detail of we can't join the queue for at least 2 years.

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Harry Ola
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PostRe: Brexit
by Harry Ola » Sat Apr 22, 2017 7:20 am

Why are we continuing down this path? And why is the only politician speaking out against it Tim Farron?

Every thing now points to disaster and the self-immolation of our economy.

The Banks are moving out taking 6% of our GDP with them. Trade deals are looking less and less likely. We are having to cosy up to monsters in the hope of some future deal. There's an enormous bill coming our way just to get out and the best we can hope for over the next few years is a transitional deal.

And all because we do not like Polish shops on our High Streets.

Oh and leaving may not change our need for immigration, other than there may be far fewer jobs with our economy plunging headlong of a cliff.

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PostRe: Brexit
by Squinty » Sat Apr 22, 2017 7:30 am

If that's true, god, the government in England is really, REALLY strawberry floating inept. The guy wants to make his country great again by any means possible. Putting your faith in someone like that is completely misguided.

I don't even feel vindicated anymore when things like this come up. Just concern and anger at the situation.

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PostRe: Brexit
by Moggy » Sat Apr 22, 2017 8:51 am

One of the few things Leave supporters had left was this amazing deal Trump was going to give us. Top of the queue!

:lol:

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PostRe: Brexit
by Hypes » Sat Apr 22, 2017 9:03 am

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That Queen Trollface fits brilliantly

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PostRe: Brexit
by Moggy » Sat Apr 22, 2017 9:11 am

Racing certainty

Her horse finished 5th.

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PostRe: Brexit
by KK » Tue Apr 25, 2017 10:09 am

Anecdotal of course, but myself and a few friends have noticed a massive drop off in eBay sales the last month. Can't shift a damn thing, even with heavy discounting. Even with eBay's general bullshit, I'm just wondering if this is a sign that in the overall economy people are beginning to stop buying all of a sudden. I had to drop a Dyson fan from £250 (RRP) to £125 just to get rid of it. I mean that is ridiculous.

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PostRe: Brexit
by Rex Kramer » Tue Apr 25, 2017 10:16 am

I think there was a recent report that said that consumer spending was significantly down in March.

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PostRe: Brexit
by Hexx » Tue Apr 25, 2017 10:31 am

KK wrote:Anecdotal of course, but myself and a few friends have noticed a massive drop off in eBay sales the last month. Can't shift a damn thing, even with heavy discounting. Even with eBay's general bullshit, I'm just wondering if this is a sign that in the overall economy people are beginning to stop buying all of a sudden. I had to drop a Dyson fan from £250 (RRP) to £125 just to get rid of it. I mean that is ridiculous.


I'd have given you £126 for it
Those things are beasts.

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PostRe: Brexit
by Denster » Tue Apr 25, 2017 2:39 pm

£130.

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PostRe: Brexit
by Moggy » Tue Apr 25, 2017 2:46 pm

£130.01 but only if you are paying the postage.

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PostRe: Brexit
by Denster » Tue Apr 25, 2017 2:48 pm

£132.

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PostRe: Brexit
by Moggy » Tue Apr 25, 2017 2:50 pm

I just cost Denster at least an extra £2. 8-)

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PostRe: Brexit
by Denster » Tue Apr 25, 2017 4:05 pm

I can afford it. I work for the NHS.


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PostRe: Brexit
by Hexx » Tue Apr 25, 2017 4:06 pm

£133 and a handy

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PostRe: Brexit
by Denster » Tue Apr 25, 2017 4:08 pm

:lol:

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PostRe: Brexit
by Moggy » Tue Apr 25, 2017 4:09 pm

Hexx wrote:£133 and a handy


Sold!

Err, I mean, umm, let KK have it, or uhhh SHUT UP. :oops:


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