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twitter.com/davidallengreen/status/884711271479824384
(1/20): 1. Just a few thoughts about the comment of the ministerial "source" in this tweet, and the Euratom issue generally. https://t.co/AOt3vruwqQ
(2/20): 2. Read the quote carefully. You will see it is based on two. assumptions.
(3/20): 3. The first assumption is that it is open to the UK to not leave Euratom, because of 'not having the numbers' or otherwise.
(4/20): 4. The complacent arrogance that it is still for UK to decide these things, by itself. But, since A50 notification, this is not down to UK.
(5/20): 5. The A50 notification changed everything. The UK is no longer in control of the Brexit process, whether the "numbers" are there or not.
(6/20): 6. Furthermore: May explicitly included Euratom in the A50 letter - see third paragraph: https://t.co/GLzxxFyn8m
(7/20): 7. The language on Euratom is legalistic, not by a politician. The mention is not by accident. It was deliberate. Legal advice was obtained.
(8/20): 8. Some say that leaving the Euratom treaty was implicit in A50 - but if so, that does not matter, as the letter spelled it out anyway.
(9/20): 9. All this means that for UK to reverse on Euratom requires (imo) the Article 50 letter itself to be revoked or amended.
(10/20): 10. I cannot see how the issue can be fudged. A formal notice on quitting Euratom can only be rescinded with equal formality.
(11/20): 11. It is not open to May to say "whoops, I meant to insert a "not" in the sentence about leaving Euratom."
(12/20): 12. And so, if that is the case, the question becomes whether that can be done unilaterally by UK, or only by agreement with EU27.
(13/20): 13. And, in turn, that opens the questions as to whether the A50 letter in respect of leaving EU as a whole is revocable and, if so, how.
(14/20): 14. One can be certain that a minister saying there are not the "numbers" any more will not be enough to stop a formal notice in its tracks.
(15/20): 15. The cat, genie and horse are all out of their respective containers on that.
(16/20): 16. It will not be for ministers or parliament to simply reverse Euratom on a whim. No doubt that notice will have to be revoked or amended.
(17/20): 17. The second assumption is that the EU will go along with only those parts of Brexit for which there are "numbers" in UK parliament.
(18/20): 18. The EU do not care which parts of Brexit have numbers in Commons. It will make no difference. The EU has already set out its position.
(19/20): 19. Cross-bench alliances can vote for all sorts of concessions and compromises on Brexit, but no reason why EU will notice still less care.
(20/20): 20. Parliament, and UK ministers, are no longer in control of Brexit, whatever the "numbers".
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