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Should the United Kingdom remain a member of the European Union or leave the European Union?

Remain a member of the European Union
222
80%
Leave the European Union
57
20%
 
Total votes: 279
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PostRe: Brexit
by KK » Tue Jul 11, 2017 10:55 pm

"A catatonically stupid thing for him to do. Purposely offending 27 world leaders for a cheap laugh."

Sun political editor on tonight's Paper Preview on Sky News, not a fan of Boris' remarks today.

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PostRe: Brexit
by Alvin Flummux » Tue Jul 11, 2017 11:16 pm

It's a rare, hell-blighted day that sees me agreeing with the Sun on anything. :dread:

Hexx wrote:She's hasn't had she?


Trying so hard to figure out this sentence right now.

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PostRe: Brexit
by Moggy » Wed Jul 12, 2017 11:29 am

Hexx wrote:
Rex Kramer wrote:Now the woodpile woman has had the whip withdrawn, that majority is getting slimmer. Couple of unfortunate by-election results and it could be gone. £1.5 billion well spent.


She's hasn't had she? She's just been put on the naughty step for a while?


She’s had the whip withdrawn and the Tory party have suspended her while they “investigate”.

I doubt she’ll get the whip back, but I can’t see they will throw her out of the party or encourage her to resign. As Rex said, if they lost her then they might have to pay another billion to bribe another small party to support them. ;)

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PostRe: Brexit
by Moggy » Wed Jul 12, 2017 12:45 pm


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PostRe: Brexit
by Meep » Wed Jul 12, 2017 1:56 pm

I find the enthusiasm for "getting rid of red tape" being one of the "good" things about Brexit kind of disturbing. For example, one of the moronic leave campaigns talked about how the EU had rules around the manufacture of pillows, however they did not suggest how many rules for pillow manufacture they thought would be appropriate or which ones in particular they would do away with. The idea that something like a pillow should be manufactured without regulations is unnerving because that poses a severe risk to human health if it is made from the wrong materials. Some idiots seem to think that no one would knowingly put something harmful in a pillow and having rules around them is nonsense, which is incredibly naive.

Think about Grenfell and the company that manufactured cladding made from flammable plastic. Their engineers would have known this substance was flammable, but it provided a good profit margin and was perfectly legal to manufacture so their managers must have ignored these facts and ordered the product to go ahead. The underlying motivation of enterprise is the accumulation of capital and nothing else. If companies were at all motivated by protecting public health the entire tobacco industry would have closed shop decades ago. This is the uncomfortable truth that free market enthusiasts never want to admit. In a capitalist system businesses operates in the manner of a psychopath and if you let them they will throw innocents under a bus the first time its convenient.

To conclude, yes, we do need regulations for manufacturing pillows. Unless you want to breath in carcinogenic fibres of other nasties things while you sleep. A lot of the red tape these would be captains of industry are moaning about is there to protect all the boring little people they would not care less about, with their boring petty concerns about "health and safety" (aka, "life and death").

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PostRe: Brexit
by Blue Eyes » Wed Jul 12, 2017 1:57 pm


Brexit voters couldn't give a gooseberry fool about the plight of gays, even if they are gay themselves. They only care about being banana splits at any and all cost.

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PostRe: Brexit
by Moggy » Wed Jul 12, 2017 2:01 pm

Meep wrote:I find the enthusiasm for "getting rid of red tape" being one of the "good" things about Brexit kind of disturbing. For example, one of the moronic leave campaigns talked about how the EU had rules around the manufacture of pillows, however they did not suggest how many rules for pillow manufacture they thought would be appropriate or which ones in particular they would do away with. The idea that something like a pillow should be manufactured without regulations is unnerving because that poses a severe risk to human health if it is made from the wrong materials. Some idiots seem to think that no one would knowingly put something harmful in a pillow and having rules around them is nonsense, which is incredibly naive.

Think about Grenfell and the company that manufactured cladding made from flammable plastic. Their engineers would have known this substance was flammable, but it provided a good profit margin and was perfectly legal to manufacture so their managers must have ignored these facts and ordered the product to go ahead. The underlying motivation of enterprise is the accumulation of capital and nothing else. If companies were at all motivated by protecting public health the entire tobacco industry would have closed shop decades ago. This is the uncomfortable truth that free market enthusiasts never want to admit. In a capitalist system businesses operates in the manner of a psychopath and if you let them they will throw innocents under a bus the first time its convenient.

To conclude, yes, we do need regulations for manufacturing pillows. Unless you want to breath in carcinogenic fibres of other nasties things while you sleep. A lot of the red tape these would be captains of industry are moaning about is there to protect all the boring little people they would not care less about, with their boring petty concerns about "health and safety" (aka, "life and death").


It's the "health and safety gone mad!" (sometimes wittily called 'elf and safety LOL!!) argument. Lol, they teach people how to use ladders, tee hee we know how to climb them! Lolz teaching people to lift things, arghhh we know how to lift!

Idiots.

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PostRe: Brexit
by Moggy » Wed Jul 12, 2017 2:02 pm

Blue Eyes wrote:

Brexit voters couldn't give a gooseberry fool about the plight of gays, even if they are gay themselves. They only care about being banana splits at any and all cost.


They seem to give a gooseberry fool about gay rights when you are talking about Muslims though.

Funny that.

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PostRe: Brexit
by Squinty » Wed Jul 12, 2017 2:07 pm

Blue Eyes wrote:

Brexit voters couldn't give a gooseberry fool about the plight of gays, even if they are gay themselves. They only care about being banana splits at any and all cost.


The support for the Mogg is extremely telling of this. That dude hates gay people.

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PostRe: Brexit
by Blue Eyes » Wed Jul 12, 2017 2:09 pm

Squinty wrote:
Blue Eyes wrote:

Brexit voters couldn't give a gooseberry fool about the plight of gays, even if they are gay themselves. They only care about being banana splits at any and all cost.


The support for the Mogg is extremely telling of this. That dude hates gay people.

Mogg looks like Mr. Logic in a suit and is an even bigger banana split.

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PostRe: Brexit
by Moggy » Wed Jul 12, 2017 2:16 pm

Blue Eyes wrote:
Squinty wrote:
Blue Eyes wrote:

Brexit voters couldn't give a gooseberry fool about the plight of gays, even if they are gay themselves. They only care about being banana splits at any and all cost.


The support for the Mogg is extremely telling of this. That dude hates gay people.

Mogg looks like Mr. Logic in a suit and is an even bigger banana split.


That banana split needs a different nickname. I don't like being that closely associated with him. :x :x :x

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PostRe: Brexit
by Squinty » Wed Jul 12, 2017 11:05 pm

Moggy wrote:
Blue Eyes wrote:
Squinty wrote:
Blue Eyes wrote:

Brexit voters couldn't give a gooseberry fool about the plight of gays, even if they are gay themselves. They only care about being banana splits at any and all cost.


The support for the Mogg is extremely telling of this. That dude hates gay people.

Mogg looks like Mr. Logic in a suit and is an even bigger banana split.


That banana split needs a different nickname. I don't like being that closely associated with him. :x :x :x


Moggy is Mogg's brother confirmed :dread:

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PostRe: Brexit
by Rightey » Thu Jul 13, 2017 2:42 am

Meep wrote:I find the enthusiasm for "getting rid of red tape" being one of the "good" things about Brexit kind of disturbing. For example, one of the moronic leave campaigns talked about how the EU had rules around the manufacture of pillows, however they did not suggest how many rules for pillow manufacture they thought would be appropriate or which ones in particular they would do away with. The idea that something like a pillow should be manufactured without regulations is unnerving because that poses a severe risk to human health if it is made from the wrong materials. Some idiots seem to think that no one would knowingly put something harmful in a pillow and having rules around them is nonsense, which is incredibly naive.

Think about Grenfell and the company that manufactured cladding made from flammable plastic. Their engineers would have known this substance was flammable, but it provided a good profit margin and was perfectly legal to manufacture so their managers must have ignored these facts and ordered the product to go ahead. The underlying motivation of enterprise is the accumulation of capital and nothing else. If companies were at all motivated by protecting public health the entire tobacco industry would have closed shop decades ago. This is the uncomfortable truth that free market enthusiasts never want to admit. In a capitalist system businesses operates in the manner of a psychopath and if you let them they will throw innocents under a bus the first time its convenient.

To conclude, yes, we do need regulations for manufacturing pillows. Unless you want to breath in carcinogenic fibres of other nasties things while you sleep. A lot of the red tape these would be captains of industry are moaning about is there to protect all the boring little people they would not care less about, with their boring petty concerns about "health and safety" (aka, "life and death").


Oh yeah? Well let me ask you this, how many people died of cancer or had diabetes in the Victorian era? Exactly! Probably not a lot, and I'm 100% sure it was all because of the lead/cyanide/formaldehyde in their medication/makeup/desserts. But of course big government just wants to poison us and kill us so they invented health and safety regulations saying we can't have ice cream full of poison because they hate freedom. :x

Seriously though these people are absolute idiots. The people of the past worked so hard to win these most basic of safety regulations so that they wouldn't lose yet another finger/hand/appendage in some machine and morons who have never worked in a factory complain endlessly about how they make us noncompetitive. Yes, we may be non-competitive against places that use child labour/have no standards but that doesn't mean we need to go backwards you absolute idiot. :fp:

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PostRe: Brexit
by Moggy » Thu Jul 13, 2017 8:22 am

The Repeal Bill is due to be published.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-40589510

This is going to be great. :slol:

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PostRe: Brexit
by Squinty » Thu Jul 13, 2017 8:28 am

Moggy wrote:The Repeal Bill is due to be published.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-40589510

This is going to be great. :slol:


As it should. Can't wait to read analysis on all the fuckups they will make.

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PostRe: Brexit
by Moggy » Thu Jul 13, 2017 8:49 am

Remember those Leave lies that the referendum in the 1970s was only about trade?

Even the strawberry floating Daily Mail in the 70s knew what we were joining. :lol:

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PostRe: Brexit
by Glowy69 » Thu Jul 13, 2017 11:26 am

Moggy wrote:The Repeal Bill is due to be published.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-40589510

This is going to be great. :slol:


Whats a repeal bill?

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PostRe: Brexit
by Moggy » Thu Jul 13, 2017 11:30 am

Glowy69 wrote:
Moggy wrote:The Repeal Bill is due to be published.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-40589510

This is going to be great. :slol:


Whats a repeal bill?


A bill that repeals?

The link would have given you the answer, but basically they are introducing a bill (law) to make all of the EU legislation into British legislation. They will then remove any law/legislation that they don't want/need/like/helps poor people.

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PostRe: Brexit
by jimbojango » Thu Jul 13, 2017 12:05 pm

So I think this whole undertaking is wrong, I didn't want Brexit, it is clearly damaging to all reasonable interests and the improved quality of life for the population. Already more resource is being wasted in the efforts of a minority government to appease another minority of the population that was misinformed about what they were voting for.

Short of going full on civil war / vigilante, or even more extreme - joining the Liberal Democrats, what can I do?

I've seen plenty of information about areas of my work already suffering - I'm in the NHS, and recruitment, research and development, education, commodity and supplies prices, support services - all those areas have seen negative impacts of varying degrees. Many see it worsening, quite quickly. It feels absurd that if something is doing harm you keep doing it. Why? What is this for? Who gains form this?

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PostRe: Brexit
by Errkal » Thu Jul 13, 2017 12:09 pm

jimbojango wrote:So I think this whole undertaking is wrong, I didn't want Brexit, it is clearly damaging to all reasonable interests and the improved quality of life for the population. Already more resource is being wasted in the efforts of a minority government to appease another minority of the population that was misinformed about what they were voting for.

Short of going full on civil war / vigilante, or even more extreme - joining the Liberal Democrats, what can I do?

I've seen plenty of information about areas of my work already suffering - I'm in the NHS, and recruitment, research and development, education, commodity and supplies prices, support services - all those areas have seen negative impacts of varying degrees. Many see it worsening, quite quickly. It feels absurd that if something is doing harm you keep doing it. Why? What is this for? Who gains form this?


WILL OF TEH PEOPLE!!

Seriously though, politicians only give a strawberry float about getting back into power not doing the right thing, and right now the backlash from not doing it will hurt them royally, it also conincides with their general wanting to be outness too. So despite it being massivly stupid and damaging it goes ahead becuase they want to keep power and a bunch of them they took over due to apathy etc. want it as well.


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