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Should the United Kingdom remain a member of the European Union or leave the European Union?

Remain a member of the European Union
222
80%
Leave the European Union
57
20%
 
Total votes: 279
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Blue Eyes
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PostRe: Brexit
by Blue Eyes » Thu Jul 13, 2017 12:11 pm

jimbojango wrote:So I think this whole undertaking is wrong, I didn't want Brexit, it is clearly damaging to all reasonable interests and the improved quality of life for the population. Already more resource is being wasted in the efforts of a minority government to appease another minority of the population that was misinformed about what they were voting for.

Short of going full on civil war / vigilante, or even more extreme - joining the Liberal Democrats, what can I do?

I've seen plenty of information about areas of my work already suffering - I'm in the NHS, and recruitment, research and development, education, commodity and supplies prices, support services - all those areas have seen negative impacts of varying degrees. Many see it worsening, quite quickly. It feels absurd that if something is doing harm you keep doing it. Why? What is this for? Who gains form this?

All that pales into insignificance when considering the will of the people, chiefly comprised of wilfully misinformed racist morons who think the most important thing in the world is the location where their parents strawberry floated.

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PostRe: Brexit
by Lagamorph » Thu Jul 13, 2017 12:29 pm

The EU Charter of fundamental rights has gone in the repeal bill.

It contains the following protections,

The first title (Dignity) guarantees the right to life and prohibits torture, slavery, the death penalty, eugenic practices and human cloning. Its provisions are mostly based on the ECHR, although Article 1 closely reflects Article 1 of the German Basic Law.

The second title (Freedoms) covers liberty, personal integrity, privacy, protection of personal data, marriage, thought, religion, expression, assembly, education, work, property and asylum.

The third title (Equality) covers equality before the law, prohibition of all discrimination including on basis of disability, age and sexual orientation, cultural, religious and linguistic diversity, the rights of children and the elderly.

The fourth title (Solidarity) covers social and workers' rights including the right to fair working conditions, protection against unjustified dismissal, and access to health care, social and housing assistance.

The fifth title (Citizen's Rights) covers the rights of the EU citizens such as the right to vote in election to the European Parliament and to move freely within the EU. It also includes several administrative rights such as a right to good administration, to access documents and to petition the European Parliament.

The sixth title (Justice) covers justice issues such as the right to an effective remedy, a fair trial, to the presumption of innocence, the principle of legality, non-retrospectivity and double jeopardy.


So goodbye privacy, goodbye personal data protections, goodbye working conditions, goodbye equality

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PostRe: Brexit
by Errkal » Thu Jul 13, 2017 12:29 pm

So human rights are omitted then from the withdrawal act....

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PostRe: Brexit
by Hexx » Thu Jul 13, 2017 12:32 pm

Errkal wrote:So human rights are omitted then from the withdrawal act....


The DUP aren't going to like the new title. Seems a little Catholic.

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PostRe: Brexit
by That » Thu Jul 13, 2017 12:33 pm

I'm so glad we TOOK BACK THE CONTROL WE NEEDED to delete our fundamental human rights.

I can't wait to finish my PhD and leave.

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PostRe: Brexit
by Moggy » Thu Jul 13, 2017 1:13 pm

jimbojango wrote:So I think this whole undertaking is wrong, I didn't want Brexit, it is clearly damaging to all reasonable interests and the improved quality of life for the population. Already more resource is being wasted in the efforts of a minority government to appease another minority of the population that was misinformed about what they were voting for.

Short of going full on civil war / vigilante, or even more extreme - joining the Liberal Democrats, what can I do?

I've seen plenty of information about areas of my work already suffering - I'm in the NHS, and recruitment, research and development, education, commodity and supplies prices, support services - all those areas have seen negative impacts of varying degrees. Many see it worsening, quite quickly. It feels absurd that if something is doing harm you keep doing it. Why? What is this for? Who gains form this?


The majority of this forum feels the same. We disagree with Brexit, we don’t want Brexit but we can’t really see there is much we can do about it.

This country is heading down the toilet thanks to a massive (and strawberry floating stupid) political gamble from Cameron. Cheers you butter faced ig strawberry floating banana split!

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PostRe: Brexit
by Moggy » Thu Jul 13, 2017 1:14 pm

Lagamorph wrote:The EU Charter of fundamental rights has gone in the repeal bill.

It contains the following protections,

The first title (Dignity) guarantees the right to life and prohibits torture, slavery, the death penalty, eugenic practices and human cloning. Its provisions are mostly based on the ECHR, although Article 1 closely reflects Article 1 of the German Basic Law.

The second title (Freedoms) covers liberty, personal integrity, privacy, protection of personal data, marriage, thought, religion, expression, assembly, education, work, property and asylum.

The third title (Equality) covers equality before the law, prohibition of all discrimination including on basis of disability, age and sexual orientation, cultural, religious and linguistic diversity, the rights of children and the elderly.

The fourth title (Solidarity) covers social and workers' rights including the right to fair working conditions, protection against unjustified dismissal, and access to health care, social and housing assistance.

The fifth title (Citizen's Rights) covers the rights of the EU citizens such as the right to vote in election to the European Parliament and to move freely within the EU. It also includes several administrative rights such as a right to good administration, to access documents and to petition the European Parliament.

The sixth title (Justice) covers justice issues such as the right to an effective remedy, a fair trial, to the presumption of innocence, the principle of legality, non-retrospectivity and double jeopardy.


So goodbye privacy, goodbye personal data protections, goodbye working conditions, goodbye equality


:fp:

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PostRe: Brexit
by Blue Eyes » Thu Jul 13, 2017 1:20 pm

Lagamorph wrote:The EU Charter of fundamental rights has gone in the repeal bill.

It contains the following protections,

The first title (Dignity) guarantees the right to life and prohibits torture, slavery, the death penalty, eugenic practices and human cloning. Its provisions are mostly based on the ECHR, although Article 1 closely reflects Article 1 of the German Basic Law.

The second title (Freedoms) covers liberty, personal integrity, privacy, protection of personal data, marriage, thought, religion, expression, assembly, education, work, property and asylum.

The third title (Equality) covers equality before the law, prohibition of all discrimination including on basis of disability, age and sexual orientation, cultural, religious and linguistic diversity, the rights of children and the elderly.

The fourth title (Solidarity) covers social and workers' rights including the right to fair working conditions, protection against unjustified dismissal, and access to health care, social and housing assistance.

The fifth title (Citizen's Rights) covers the rights of the EU citizens such as the right to vote in election to the European Parliament and to move freely within the EU. It also includes several administrative rights such as a right to good administration, to access documents and to petition the European Parliament.

The sixth title (Justice) covers justice issues such as the right to an effective remedy, a fair trial, to the presumption of innocence, the principle of legality, non-retrospectivity and double jeopardy.


So goodbye privacy, goodbye personal data protections, goodbye working conditions, goodbye equality


strawberry floating hell that is so bad! What the strawberry float is the government's problem with basic human rights?

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PostRe: Brexit
by Squinty » Thu Jul 13, 2017 1:21 pm

The most hilarious thing about this is, someone, somewhere, will find a way to try and defend this.

So are the brexiteers going to pull their heads out of the sand now? Is this enough?

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PostRe: Brexit
by Moggy » Thu Jul 13, 2017 1:24 pm

Blue Eyes wrote:strawberry floating hell that is so bad! What the strawberry float is the government's problem with basic human rights?


The reason they will tell the public: They are so scared of terrorism that they are willing to give up all the rights and protections that the public have.

The real reason: They are evil bastards that want to restrict the rights and protections that the public have in order to make profit and/or keep control.

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PostRe: Brexit
by Errkal » Thu Jul 13, 2017 1:26 pm

Blue Eyes wrote:
Lagamorph wrote:The EU Charter of fundamental rights has gone in the repeal bill.

It contains the following protections,

The first title (Dignity) guarantees the right to life and prohibits torture, slavery, the death penalty, eugenic practices and human cloning. Its provisions are mostly based on the ECHR, although Article 1 closely reflects Article 1 of the German Basic Law.

The second title (Freedoms) covers liberty, personal integrity, privacy, protection of personal data, marriage, thought, religion, expression, assembly, education, work, property and asylum.

The third title (Equality) covers equality before the law, prohibition of all discrimination including on basis of disability, age and sexual orientation, cultural, religious and linguistic diversity, the rights of children and the elderly.

The fourth title (Solidarity) covers social and workers' rights including the right to fair working conditions, protection against unjustified dismissal, and access to health care, social and housing assistance.

The fifth title (Citizen's Rights) covers the rights of the EU citizens such as the right to vote in election to the European Parliament and to move freely within the EU. It also includes several administrative rights such as a right to good administration, to access documents and to petition the European Parliament.

The sixth title (Justice) covers justice issues such as the right to an effective remedy, a fair trial, to the presumption of innocence, the principle of legality, non-retrospectivity and double jeopardy.


So goodbye privacy, goodbye personal data protections, goodbye working conditions, goodbye equality


strawberry floating hell that is so bad! What the strawberry float is the government's problem with basic human rights?


Rights and standard cost businesses money, get rid and you can do what you want to make money, they makes the top rich, by being rich they grow their business and higher more people thus helping people.
Also if you job is unsafe etc. it is insentivise you to work harder to improve your life.
Also post brexit our economy is strawberry floated, if they can cut massive corners "maybe" our goods can be cheaper and cost of business will be less so companies may want to come here.

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PostRe: Brexit
by Photek » Thu Jul 13, 2017 1:31 pm

I still can't believe what I'm reading in here at times.

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PostRe: Brexit
by Moggy » Thu Jul 13, 2017 1:33 pm

Photek wrote:I still can't believe what I'm reading in here at times.


Oh come on! By Errkal standards that post was quite readable.

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PostRe: Brexit
by Rex Kramer » Thu Jul 13, 2017 1:37 pm

Moggy wrote:
Photek wrote:I still can't believe what I'm reading in here at times.


Oh come on! By Errkal standards that post was quite readable.

:lol:

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Hexx
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PostRe: Brexit
by Hexx » Thu Jul 13, 2017 1:42 pm

Yeah! Errkal doesn't write well! Get him!

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Squinty
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PostRe: Brexit
by Squinty » Thu Jul 13, 2017 1:43 pm

It's just as well they are taking away Errkal's human rights.

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Blue Eyes
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PostRe: Brexit
by Blue Eyes » Thu Jul 13, 2017 1:55 pm

This is what you get with a Christian Prime Minister, is it? strawberry floating evil bitch deserves to burn in Hell. What a shame that place obviously doesn't exist.

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PostRe: Brexit
by Errkal » Thu Jul 13, 2017 1:56 pm

Blue Eyes wrote:This is what you get with a Christian Prime Minister, is it? strawberry floating evil bitch deserves to burn in Hell. What a shame that place obviously doesn't exist.

It does, it is where all the poor people live.

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PostRe: Brexit
by Moggy » Thu Jul 13, 2017 2:12 pm

I guess our hope has to be that this is so extreme that Corbyn finally grows a pair and gets his MPs to vote against a Brexit bill. I would imagine the SNP/Greens/Lib Dems will be opposed to it. Could we see enough pro EU/non bastard Tories rebel against their weak leader to stop it going through?

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PostRe: Brexit
by Errkal » Thu Jul 13, 2017 2:22 pm

Moggy wrote:I guess our hope has to be that this is so extreme that Corbyn finally grows a pair and gets his MPs to vote against a Brexit bill. I would imagine the SNP/Greens/Lib Dems will be opposed to it. Could we see enough pro EU/non bastard Tories rebel against their weak leader to stop it going through?

I would think he would be based on the Human right stuff. He may be anti-EU but he can't be anti-rights etc.


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