Brexit

What does Shane Ross actually do? During the Bus and Rail Strikes he did absolutely FA. I take the point most are 'Dublin Focused' but more than half the population is in Dublin and surrounding counties. I like the cut of Varadkars gib these days but christ almighty the housing here is mental.

I bought a house months before the Government and central bank destroyed the market with the partial deregulation of deposits needed for a house and the idiots in the Dail giving first time buyers a €10k grant for new builds not foreseeing that the developers would simply increase the price by €10k. My house has gone up 30% in price and I'm not in it a year yet.

Congrats in the Hurling btw.

Photek wrote:What does Shane Ross actually do? During the Bus and Rail Strikes he did absolutely FA. I take the point most are 'Dublin Focused' but more than half the population is in Dublin and surrounding counties. I like the cut of Varadkars gib these days but christ almighty the housing here is mental.


Congrats in the Hurling btw.

Cheers.


I absolutely understand the need for Dublin to be the centrepiece of the governments economic plans and I think most people get that. The problem with Ross is that he can't seem to disguise the fact that he believes that Ireland outside the M50 simply exists to provide plumbers and burger flippers for those inside the M50.

"I went for spin around Kerry in the back of my good mate Danny's Corolla and I now understand the needs of the people of Kerry"

For strawberry floats sake.

We should have an Irish politics thread.

Moggy wrote:We should have an Irish politics thread.

Sorry man.

Photek wrote:

Moggy wrote:We should have an Irish politics thread.

Sorry man.

It wasn't a criticism, it was a suggestion. There are enough Irish people (plus plastic ones like me!) that might find it interesting.

Right enough of this Irish nonsense, back to the Tories having a shitty 24 hours...

According to Sky News' Mark Kleinman today a number of big companies have basically told the government to faaaark off and are refusing to sign a letter backing the government’s Brexit strategy.

And in tonight's Evening Standard, Dominic Grieve (Conservative former attorney general) has said that no proper sovereign parliament would ever pass the EU withdrawal bill in its current form.

KK wrote:Right enough of this Irish nonsense, back to the Tories having a shitty 24 hours...

According to Sky News' Mark Kleinman today a number of big companies have basically told the government to faaaark off and are refusing to sign a letter backing the government’s Brexit strategy.

And in tonight's Evening Standard, Dominic Grieve (Conservative former attorney general) has said that no proper sovereign parliament would ever pass the EU withdrawal bill in its current form.

twitter.com/skynews/status/905439948521607168

EU meeting minutes with basically the top boys complaining about how lazy Davis is

twitter.com/JenniferMerode/status/905738916896100353

(We're so strawberry floated)

So the uk government want to restrict the movement of EU nations into the uk but they also want no border controls between N Ireland and the Republic?

Return_of_the_STAR wrote:So the uk government want to restrict the movement of EU nations into the uk but they also want no border controls between N Ireland and the Republic?

I do love the way the EU had to come out and tell us about our responsibilities about sorting the border issue. I mean, strawberry floating hell. You couldn't make it up.

Some of our politicians are so bloody thick in thinking it was up to the EU to present a viable solution. We voted. It should have been looked into before a referendum was even heard. It wasn't. Hence the stupid nonsense of all this.

Squinty wrote:I do love the way the EU had to come out and tell us about our responsibilities about sorting the border issue. I mean, strawberry floating hell. You couldn't make it up.

Some of our politicians are so bloody thick in thinking it was up to the EU to present a viable solution. We voted. It should have been looked into before a referendum was even heard. It wasn't. Hence the stupid nonsense of all this.

A lot of Leavers seem to think it's up to the EU to come up with the plans. The UK voted to leave, why would the EU have to, the onus is on the party leaving to say what they want and for it to then be discussed.

I'm more frustrated with the incompetents who seems to be running this, rather than Brexit itself.

It's an undertaking for the Stephen Hawking's of this world, not May, Davis, Fox, Johnson and Gove. There are obviously a lot of people behind the scenes who we're not seeing and know nothing about. Davis is more a figurehead who turns up for the cameras and says...stuff. You know, like most politicians. Or celebs. Which they basically are now. Vacuous celebs. May as well be David Beckham standing up there.

I don't get how anyone could truly believe that. Morons.

I think it was incredibly foolish to call a referendum without even giving the GFA/Irish border issue a passing thought.

Edit - the first part was aimed at Moggy's post.

KK wrote:I'm more frustrated with the incompetents who seems to be running this, rather than Brexit itself.

It's an undertaking for the Stephen Hawking's of this world, not May, Davis, Fox, Johnson and Gove. There are obviously a lot of people behind the scenes who we're not seeing and know nothing about. Davis is more a figurehead who turns up for the cameras and says...stuff. You know, like most politicians. Or celebs. Which they basically are now. Vacuous celebs. May as well be David Beckham standing up there.

At least Beckham was a competent right winger.

Squinty wrote:I do love the way the EU had to come out and tell us about our responsibilities about sorting the border issue. I mean, strawberry floating hell. You couldn't make it up.

Some of our politicians are so bloody thick in thinking it was up to the EU to present a viable solution. We voted. It should have been looked into before a referendum was even heard. It wasn't. Hence the stupid nonsense of all this.

Conservatives were deriding Varadkar for saying the very same thing a month ago.

Moggy wrote:

KK wrote:I'm more frustrated with the incompetents who seems to be running this, rather than Brexit itself.

It's an undertaking for the Stephen Hawking's of this world, not May, Davis, Fox, Johnson and Gove. There are obviously a lot of people behind the scenes who we're not seeing and know nothing about. Davis is more a figurehead who turns up for the cameras and says...stuff. You know, like most politicians. Or celebs. Which they basically are now. Vacuous celebs. May as well be David Beckham standing up there.

At least Beckham was a competent right winger.

lovely

I completely missed that, very well played

Davis gives off the impression of just not being strawberry floating bothered. One of those fortunate people who's definition of "work" is just telling other people to come up with something and then taking the credit. This would explain why he is so infuriatingly laid back all the time. In his world someone lower down the ladder but much more competent always swoops in and saves the day, so why stress out? It's a common attitude in upper management.