Brexit

Photek wrote:

Moggy wrote:

Squinty wrote:How to keep NI in the customs union eh? Interesting.

Other than a united Ireland or an independent Northern Ireland, how can they possibly keep Northern Ireland in the customs union if the rest of the UK is not in it?

Customs border in the Irish Sea, treat the island as one.

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Moggy wrote:That doesn’t work though does it?

Let’s say a UK business wants to import goods from an EU state, but don’t want to pay the pesky WTO tariffs that exist between the UK and the EU. Why wouldn’t the UK business just open up in Belfast so that they can get hold of the goods with no issues? Once (legally!) in Belfast, a business is surely allowed to operate freely in the rest of the UK?

The solution to the customs union problem seriously can’t be that there will be tariffs between Northern Ireland and the rest of the UK. But how else would you stop it?

This whole thing gets more and more stupid.

Garth wrote:

Moggy wrote:That doesn’t work though does it?

Let’s say a UK business wants to import goods from an EU state, but don’t want to pay the pesky WTO tariffs that exist between the UK and the EU. Why wouldn’t the UK business just open up in Belfast so that they can get hold of the goods with no issues? Once (legally!) in Belfast, a business is surely allowed to operate freely in the rest of the UK?

The solution to the customs union problem seriously can’t be that there will be tariffs between Northern Ireland and the rest of the UK. But how else would you stop it?

This whole thing gets more and more stupid.

Maybe we should return to the idea of a land border policed by airships and an army of drones...

On 23 June 2016 the British people voted to leave the European Union. The UK Government is clear that it is now its duty to implement the will of the people and so there will be no second referendum.

The decision to hold the referendum was supported by a clear majority in both the House of Commons and the House of Lords. On 23 June 2016 the British people voted to leave the European Union. The referendum was the largest democratic mandate in UK political history. In the 2017 General Election more than 85% of people voted for parties committed to respecting that result.

There must be no attempts to remain inside the European Union, no attempts to rejoin it through the back door, and no second referendum. The country voted to leave the European Union, and it is the duty of the Government to make sure we do just that. Rather than second guess the British people’s decision to leave the European Union, the challenge now is to make a success of it - not just for those who voted leave but for every citizen of the United Kingdom, bringing together everyone in a balanced approach which respects the decision to leave the political structure of the EU but builds a strong relationship between Britain and the EU as neighbours, allies and partners.

Parliament passed an Act of Parliament with a clear majority giving the Prime Minister the power to trigger Article 50, which she did on 29 March in a letter to the President of the European Council, Donald Tusk. As a matter of firm policy, our notification will not be withdrawn - for the simple reason that people voted to leave, and the Government is determined to see through that instruction.

Both Houses of Parliament will have the opportunity to vote on the final agreement reached with the EU before it is concluded. This will be a meaningful vote which will give MPs the choice to either accept the final agreement or leave the EU with no agreement.

The people of the United Kingdom voted to leave the European Union, but we are not leaving Europe. We want a deep and special partnership with the EU. We aim to get the right deal abroad and the right deal for people here at home. We will deliver a country that is stronger, fairer, more united and more outward-looking than ever before.

Department for Exiting the European Union

Oblomov Boblomov wrote:How can they write "Rather than second guess the British people's decision..."

Oblomov Boblomov wrote:Unsurprising bullshit response following the latest petition for a second referendum:

We will deliver a country that is stronger, fairer, more united and more outward-looking than ever before.

Oblomov Boblomov wrote:

In the 2017 General Election more than 85% of people voted for parties committed to respecting that result.

“We conclude that each scenario poses substantial threats. The workforce of the NHS is heavily reliant on EU staff . Financing of health care for UK citizens in the EU and vice versa is threatened, as is access to some capital funds, while Brexit threatens overall economic performance. Access to pharmaceuticals, technology, blood, and organs for transplant is jeopardised. Information used for international comparisons is threatened, as is service delivery, especially in Northern Ireland.

The referendum was the largest democratic mandate in UK political history.

Moggy wrote:

Oblomov Boblomov wrote:

In the 2017 General Election more than 85% of people voted for parties committed to respecting that result.

That bit really annoys me as it is so horribly misleading. People didn’t vote in the election based on Brexit, they voted on a huge range of issues.

Did they expect us all to vote for the Lib Dems?

Oblomov Boblomov wrote:

Moggy wrote:

Oblomov Boblomov wrote:

In the 2017 General Election more than 85% of people voted for parties committed to respecting that result.

That bit really annoys me as it is so horribly misleading. People didn’t vote in the election based on Brexit, they voted on a huge range of issues.

Did they expect us all to vote for the Lib Dems?

The more you read the full response the worse it gets.

And yes, everyone should have voted Lib Dem!