Brexit

Moggy wrote:

captain red dog wrote:

Hexx wrote:

twitter.com/lloydblankfein/status/920995573368545280

Some of the Brexiteer responses to the Tweet are great. Arguing finance and regulation with the head of Goldman Sachs

Do you not think that is just a tad callous to all his employees to find out about their redundancy in that manner?

It’s no more callous than voting for those people to lose their jobs.

Nobody voted for anyone to lose their jobs. Well, some people may have voted for bankers to lose their jobs. I guess they got their wish, just not the super rich bankers that tanked the economy!

Denster wrote:

lex-man wrote:

Denster wrote:Although I’m not ambivalent to the poor. I just don’t lose any sleep about tough decisions being made and their consequences. That’s the conservative way.

Judge me or love me. Couldn’t care less.

The problem is there are better alternatives. Alternatives where people don't have to stave to death.

Yes. They can get a Job.
Or they can go to the food banks or whatever.
It was changed to become simpler and to save money thst is the bottom line. It does seem pretty heartless I know. But that’s just god it is.

When Brexit goes tits up and we get a labour government.
They can have their go at fixing it.

People are just going to have to accept it and learn to budget.

If they still can’t - we’ll think of it as the Tories helping Natural selection along.

There's a chance that the tories will bugger brexit up so badly they won't be able to import food from Europe which will cause food shortages. It'll take about a month to sort the problem out. If that happens a lot of people with jobs are going to be going hungry.

captain red dog wrote:

Moggy wrote:

captain red dog wrote:

Hexx wrote:

twitter.com/lloydblankfein/status/920995573368545280

Some of the Brexiteer responses to the Tweet are great. Arguing finance and regulation with the head of Goldman Sachs

Do you not think that is just a tad callous to all his employees to find out about their redundancy in that manner?

It’s no more callous than voting for those people to lose their jobs.

Nobody voted for anyone to lose their jobs. Well, some people may have voted for bankers to lose their jobs. I guess they got their wish, just not the super rich bankers that tanked the economy!

Remember “project fear” that warned of job losses if Brexit happened?

Treasury report on impact of no deal / hard Brexit (dated pre-referendum):
https://tttthreads.com/thread/921068161692205057

Twitter is such a gooseberry fool platform to release information like that. I'm not reading that.

Worth it to take back control

Dual wrote:Twitter is such a gooseberry fool platform to release information like that. I'm not reading that.

Yeah, tweet threads are gooseberry fool. This looks better: https://tttthreads.com/thread/921068161692205057

Watching Question Time; I didn't know the boss of Next was also a Brexiteer...or maybe I did and forgot.

Rumours circulating this morning that Theresa May has privately agreed to a €40billion exit bill.

Lagamorph wrote:Rumours circulating this morning that Theresa May has privately agreed to a €40billion exit bill.

That'll please the really crazy Leavers.

Moggy wrote:

Lagamorph wrote:Rumours circulating this morning that Theresa May has privately agreed to a €40billion exit bill.

That'll please the really crazy Leavers.

I don't understand why it's a sticking point with leavers, it achieves 2 things, the prospect of leaving the EU sooner and also the chance of a 'soft brexit'.

I personally now think the UK is going to leave with no deal.

That's way under the 60 wanted (which itself was under the more ludicrous 100b). I'll believe it when I see it.

Photek wrote:

Moggy wrote:

Lagamorph wrote:Rumours circulating this morning that Theresa May has privately agreed to a €40billion exit bill.

That'll please the really crazy Leavers.

I don't understand why it's a sticking point with leavers, it achieves 2 things, the prospect of leaving the EU sooner and also the chance of a 'soft brexit'.

I personally now think the UK is going to leave with no deal.

There are lots of different types of Leaver, but the most vocal of them hate the idea of the soft Brexit. They see that as a betrayal of the referendum. Even though they all suggested the Norway model pre-referendum….

Paying €40billion will make them go insane. Paying €4 would almost make them go insane. Saying it is better to pay €40billion to get a “soft” Brexit will not please them, they want us to walk away and revert to WTO rules.

If Theresa May has agreed to pay €40billion then I would say that lessens the chance of no deal. Although she might well get ripped apart from the hard right of her own party and the newspapers before any such deal can be finalised.

KK wrote:That's way under the 60 wanted (which itself was under the more ludicrous 100b). I'll believe it when I see it.

Laga's figure was in €'s, I think the other figures when quoted have been in £'s.

I guess May is expecting the pound to tank even further.

I believe €40m is still less than what has been asked. Norway is different in that it has free movement of EU nationals right?

Photek wrote:I believe €40m is still less than what has been asked.

I am not sure there was ever an actual stated amount was there? Plenty of rumours of the EU wanting €60-100billion, but I am not sure anything was ever properly announced. It certainly will not be €40m though.

€40b could be a nice little compromise. It gives the EU cash while allowing TM to say "look at how great at negotiating I am, I saved us €60billion!".

Norway is different in that it has free movement of EU nationals right?

They do. Which is why Britain will not go for that model, the hard right Tories and the newspapers will never allow it.

twitter.com/EliasMichalas/status/921042540048142336

Idiot.

The best bit of that phone call is when he says he told his wife “I wasn’t thinking of you”.

That’s Brexit in a nutshell, not thinking of anybody else. Or just not thinking in general.

It's the "I was doing it on very logical level" line that gets me