Brexit

Errkal wrote:

Moggy wrote:

I mean we will never know for sure, but with the out right, brexit means brexit, red white and racist brexit stuff that she has spouted with a evil scowl on her face I think she was leave from the start but thought she would "back the winner" and some how that has paid off even still.

She was Remain before the referendum.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-38653681

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... out-brexit

All that changed after the referendum was that she saw her chance at being PM and went with it.

She was pretty quite during remain and didn't really do much to push for remain other than doing enough to be visible enough, a bit like Corbyn who did much much for for remain but also swapped right after and was really a leaver the whole time.

My point is anything in the campaign could have been gooseberry fool in the same way as Corbyn.

I don’t think she was especially quiet, she was just doing her usual submarine routine. She was out there with Remain campaigners, she spoke in private to business leaders to warn against Brexit etc.

The whole referendum became the Boris show with exclusive guest appearances from David Cameron and Nigel Farage. The media wasn’t interested in reporting on what Theresa May was doing.

Moggy wrote:

Errkal wrote:

Moggy wrote:

I mean we will never know for sure, but with the out right, brexit means brexit, red white and racist brexit stuff that she has spouted with a evil scowl on her face I think she was leave from the start but thought she would "back the winner" and some how that has paid off even still.

She was Remain before the referendum.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-38653681

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... out-brexit

All that changed after the referendum was that she saw her chance at being PM and went with it.

She was pretty quite during remain and didn't really do much to push for remain other than doing enough to be visible enough, a bit like Corbyn who did much much for for remain but also swapped right after and was really a leaver the whole time.

My point is anything in the campaign could have been gooseberry fool in the same way as Corbyn.

I don’t think she was especially quiet, she was just doing her usual submarine routine. She was out there with Remain campaigners, she spoke in private to business leaders to warn against Brexit etc.

The whole referendum became the Boris show with exclusive guest appearances from David Cameron and Nigel Farage. The media wasn’t interested in reporting on what Theresa May was doing.

Possibly but as I say Corbyn was doing the same yet he was a leaver and still is, so it isn't beyond the realms of possibility that another MP was doing the same thing, especially when said MP jumped at the chance to take over the leadership and prime ministership and then has push for a hard and hurtful Brexit.

Errkal wrote:Possibly but as I say Corbyn was doing the same yet he was a leaver and still is, so it isn't beyond the realms of possibility that another MP was doing the same thing, especially when said MP jumped at the chance to take over the leadership and prime ministership and then has push for a hard and hurtful Brexit.

Yes but the evidence doesn’t suggest that. Look at the Guardian link that I posted, that was her supporting Remain in private.

Corbyn and May are completely opposite on this issue (and of course many others!).

Corbyn was a Leaver that during the referendum switched to support Remain for political reasons.

May was a Remainer that after the referendum switched to support Leave for political reasons.

Either way, she is acting like Queen Leaver now so it doesn't matter if she really wants to stay or not she is buggering the country either way and if anything it is worse that she isn't paying any attention to the bit in her head saying "THIS IS GOING TO SCREW THE COUNTRY" and instead is ploughing on regardless.

Errkal wrote:Either way, she is acting like Queen Leaver now so it doesn't matter if she really wants to stay or not she is buggering the country either way and if anything it is worse that she isn't paying any attention to the bit in her head saying "THIS IS GOING TO SCREW THE COUNTRY" and instead is ploughing on regardless.

True, but deep down she’ll still know that Remain is a better option. As she’s not Queen Leaver based on a deeply held belief there’s a chance she’ll favour less harsh Brexit options.

Unlikely though I agree, keeping her job now relies on keeping the hard Brexit Tories and the DUP happy.

What the strawberry float happened to "go whistle" and "they need us more than we need them"?

Carnage on James O'Brien's show this morning.

Photek wrote:Carnage on James O'Brien's show this morning.

Deets, please.

Blue Eyes wrote:What the strawberry float happened to "go whistle" and "they need us more than we need them"?

We didn’t need them but then spent all our cash on a bus.

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Lucien wrote:Glad things are moving along. I've a bad feeling this Irish issue is going to drag on forever though. It's typical that we'd have two areas of the world that aren't grown up enough to accept national borders.

So much wrong with this post.

Sure those who would have to suffer a full border after the many years of it prior are keen to have it again.

Lucien wrote:It's typical that we'd have two areas of the world that aren't grown up enough to accept national borders.

1. It's amusing that you have sometimes complained about your interactions in this thread when your rhetoric is this nakedly condescending.
2. What's "grown up" about national borders? Protect our borders! has been the rally of a great many unenlightened political philosophies. Beyond that, the need for absolute control to the point of self-harm could be described as quite childish, I feel, whereas I think breaking down borders and learning to coexist with other cultures for mutual benefit requires an emotional maturity.
3. The Irish situation is a lot more complex than 'nations should have borders, innit, sorted' for all sorts of reasons. If you really can't see this then I'm not sure anything I say will convince you, but it's genuinely a very silly POV.

Lucien wrote:Glad things are moving along. I've a bad feeling this Irish issue is going to drag on forever though. It's typical that we'd have two areas of the world that aren't grown up enough to accept national borders.

Jesus F**king Christ.

Lucien wrote:Glad things are moving along. I've a bad feeling this Irish issue is going to drag on forever though. It's typical that we'd have two areas of the world that aren't grown up enough to accept national borders.

Crikey

Lucien wrote:Glad things are moving along. I've a bad feeling this Irish issue is going to drag on forever though. It's typical that we'd have two areas of the world that aren't grown up enough to accept national borders.

Pick up a history book for strawberry floats sake and realise what the hell you've just said.

Lucien wrote:Glad things are moving along. I've a bad feeling this Irish issue is going to drag on forever though. It's typical that we'd have two areas of the world that aren't grown up enough to accept national borders.

There's a bit more to it than that, do you know much about the history of Ireland? We currently have a very grown up, amicable agreement regarding our border, thankyouverymuch.

Lucien wrote:Glad things are moving along. I've a bad feeling this Irish issue is going to drag on forever though. It's typical that we'd have two areas of the world that aren't grown up enough to accept national borders.

Words fail me.

This Irish situation sounds silly, I think we should just send over the British army to keep the peace and protect the border if the police there aren't up to it

The irish just need to stop moaning, they need to accept the people have spoken and move on, they need to respect the sovereignty of the UK and get over their EU hugging complaining and get behind this!

OrangeRakoon wrote:This Irish situation sounds silly, I think we should just send over the British army to keep the peace and protect the border if the police there aren't up to it

Why would we need the police when we'll have gun drones and killer robots?