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Should the United Kingdom remain a member of the European Union or leave the European Union?

Remain a member of the European Union
222
80%
Leave the European Union
57
20%
 
Total votes: 279
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PostRe: Brexit
by Lagamorph » Thu Jan 11, 2018 10:21 pm



Guess they didn't get his update :slol:

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PostRe: Brexit
by more heat than light » Thu Jan 11, 2018 10:45 pm

The phrase 'Daily Express Crusade' really makes me want to punch someone in the face.

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PostRe: Brexit
by Karl » Fri Jan 12, 2018 3:49 am

Combining the aspiration to a 'crusade' with that little cartoon knight leads me to believe that The Express thinks the Crusades were something noble and maybe even a bit enjoyable.

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PostRe: Brexit
by Moggy » Fri Jan 12, 2018 7:46 am

Lagamorph wrote:

Guess they didn't get his update :slol:


From the bottom of that front page

It would be naïve to allow Remain organisations to build up war chests, get their campaigns going, get their negative messages out…


Also under Farage it says “Nigel Farage hopes to end “whingeing” from Remoaners”.

Really Express/Nigel? After 40 years of moaning and whingeing about how much you hated Europe, you are now whingeing that Remainers are whingeing? :lol:

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PostRe: Brexit
by more heat than light » Fri Jan 12, 2018 8:02 am

They weren't whinging, they were crusading.

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PostRe: Brexit
by Benzin » Fri Jan 12, 2018 9:18 am

The crusade to bring Diana back to life!

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PostRe: Brexit
by Lagamorph » Fri Jan 12, 2018 10:10 am

Benzin wrote:The crusade to bring Diana back to life!

She's dead?!

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PostRe: Brexit
by Cheeky Devlin » Fri Jan 12, 2018 10:12 am

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Benzin wrote:The crusade to bring Diana back to life!

She's dead?!

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PostRe: Brexit
by Moggy » Fri Jan 12, 2018 10:19 am

Lagamorph wrote:
Benzin wrote:The crusade to bring Diana back to life!

She's dead?!


She died in FRANCE at the hands of a FRENCH driver while being pursued by FRENCH paparazzi (an ITALIAN word).

This is why we voted out, the Europeans just kill our princesses and we need to save Kate before it’s too late. :x

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PostRe: Brexit
by Photek » Fri Jan 12, 2018 10:58 am

James O'Brien has a live one bois.

"I dunno I like brexit for my kids, I'm ignorant about the reasons”

James pointed out all the things he’s denied his children and he just said he believes it will be better.

:dread:

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PostRe: Brexit
by Squinty » Fri Jan 12, 2018 12:11 pm

Photek wrote:James O'Brien has a live one bois.

"I dunno I like brexit for my kids, I'm ignorant about the reasons”

James pointed out all the things he’s denied his children and he just said he believes it will be better.

:dread:


I'm starting to think these callers are fake. No one can be this thick.

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PostRe: Brexit
by Moggy » Fri Jan 12, 2018 12:26 pm

Squinty wrote:
Photek wrote:James O'Brien has a live one bois.

"I dunno I like brexit for my kids, I'm ignorant about the reasons”

James pointed out all the things he’s denied his children and he just said he believes it will be better.

:dread:


I'm starting to think these callers are fake. No one can be this thick.


I haven’t heard the call Photek was referring to, but I’ve heard JoB’s callers before and they really are that thick. I know people that are even worse. :lol:

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PostRe: Brexit
by Lagamorph » Fri Jan 12, 2018 12:39 pm

Squinty wrote:
Photek wrote:James O'Brien has a live one bois.

"I dunno I like brexit for my kids, I'm ignorant about the reasons”

James pointed out all the things he’s denied his children and he just said he believes it will be better.

:dread:


I'm starting to think these callers are fake. No one can be this thick.

The 17.4 million people who voted leave prove they can be.

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PostRe: Brexit
by Moggy » Fri Jan 12, 2018 1:52 pm

Lagamorph wrote:
Squinty wrote:
Photek wrote:James O'Brien has a live one bois.

"I dunno I like brexit for my kids, I'm ignorant about the reasons”

James pointed out all the things he’s denied his children and he just said he believes it will be better.

:dread:


I'm starting to think these callers are fake. No one can be this thick.

The 17.4 million people who voted leave prove they can be.


That's a bit harsh, not all of them were thick. Some of them were racist as well.

And yes some of them were not thick and/or racist but voted out for some other reason that they have never really been able to explain other than as "sovereignty" or "British laws for British people".

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PostRe: Brexit
by Lucien » Fri Jan 12, 2018 3:57 pm

captain red dog wrote:
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captain red dog wrote:I'd back another referendum to help settle the issue.


Why?


Legitimacy. If the country voted to leave again then nobody can really complain about the vote. If we vote to remain, that is reversible no matter what happens but once we leave we won't be going back. So out of fairness, I couldn't really argue against a second vote.


Both states (leave/remain) can be reversed with time. There's no reason to have a second referendum on that basis. However...

captain red dog wrote:I'd prefer this to happen after the final deal has been agreed and then there is absolutely no doubt what we are voting for.


I can understand you wanting a referendum at the deal stage.

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PostRe: Brexit
by Moggy » Fri Jan 12, 2018 5:10 pm

Leave cannot be “reversed in time” as rejoining the EU at a later state would leave us in a far worse position than we currently have (the rebate, the Euro etc). There’s also no guarantee of being allowed to rejoin, any of the EU member states could veto it.

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PostRe: Brexit
by KK » Fri Jan 12, 2018 6:15 pm

BBC News wrote:Sterling has jumped to its highest level against the US dollar since the Brexit vote.

The surge to almost $1.37 came after Bloomberg reported that the Spanish and Dutch finance ministers had agreed to seek a Brexit deal that kept the UK as close to the EU as possible.

The pound rose more than 1% to $1.3691, its highest level since 24 June 2016.

The currency had been trading at about $1.50 before the result of the referendum became clear.

Later on Friday, sterling gave up some ground to trade at $1.3666.

Mizuho analyst Neil Jones said the Bloomberg report was less significant than the sterling rally suggested.

"Just because two of the 27 members say this, it doesn't mean a softer Brexit will happen. I doubt it's as straightforward as that," he said.

Neil Wilson at ETX Capital said: "Although the comments came from just two ministers who don't necessarily speak for the Barnier team as such, there is a sense that the direction of travel for the UK with regards Brexit is a lot more positive than it was prior to December.

"We also have positive language around financial services and the prospect of Britain paying for market access."

Nomura currency strategist Jordan Rochester added: "I'm sceptical this [report] is necessarily a game-changer at this stage as there will also be member states pushing the other way."

The pound was almost flat against the euro at €1.1262 after the single currency hit a three-year high against the dollar following hopes that chancellor Angela Merkel would be able to form a coalition government in Germany.

"Sterling is benefiting from the dollar weakness and the growing euro strength rather any pound-specific factors, which if anything have been underwhelming this week," said Alvin Tan at Societe Generale.

Some traders are concerned that poor Christmas trading reported by several retailers this week was further evidence of a consumer slowdown as inflation erodes spending power.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-42661361

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PostRe: Brexit
by Lagamorph » Fri Jan 12, 2018 6:24 pm

How much of that is from the pound rising and how much is from the dollar falling under Trump though?

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PostRe: Brexit
by Photek » Fri Jan 12, 2018 6:26 pm

Dollar is at a particular low at mo so no surprise.
Pound is still 15% less valuable since before Brexit afaik.

A second referendum should be called after a deal (or no deal) has been struck so people know what they are voting for. If you leave and want back in you have to adopt the Euro as moggy said.

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PostRe: Brexit
by Dangerblade » Fri Jan 12, 2018 7:31 pm

Moggy wrote:She died in FRANCE at the hands of a FRENCH driver while being pursued by FRENCH paparazzi (an ITALIAN word).

I don't know why but that last bit took this from lol to lmao


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