Brexit

Garth wrote:It makes sense that we'd get worse deals than the EU, we don't have the same clout.

NickSCFC wrote:So we're basically being spitroasted by the EU and the USA right now?

Squinty wrote:The Guardian are reporting that May is looking at the US/Canada border for ideas on the Ireland question.

Total strawberry floating banana split.

Hexx wrote:

Squinty wrote:The Guardian are reporting that May is looking at the US/Canada border for ideas on the Ireland question.

Total strawberry floating banana split.

Even better - she used that as one when asked for an example of a border without a customs union or infrastructure

May's MP session is a mix of Brexitters chest-beating, and rationale people desperately trying to get any sort of concrete pragmatic response.

We're so so strawberry floated

Moggy wrote:

NickSCFC wrote:So we're basically being spitroasted by the EU and the USA right now?

Yeah but it’s fine because Newcastle Brown Ale will probably taste the same.

lex-man wrote:

Hexx wrote:

Squinty wrote:The Guardian are reporting that May is looking at the US/Canada border for ideas on the Ireland question.

Total strawberry floating banana split.

Even better - she used that as one when asked for an example of a border without a customs union or infrastructure

May's MP session is a mix of Brexitters chest-beating, and rationale people desperately trying to get any sort of concrete pragmatic response.

We're so so strawberry floated

Urm, it isn't an open boarder is it? I seem to remember having to cross through a border checkpoint to enter the US from Canada.

lex-man wrote:

Hexx wrote:

Squinty wrote:The Guardian are reporting that May is looking at the US/Canada border for ideas on the Ireland question.

Total strawberry floating banana split.

Even better - she used that as one when asked for an example of a border without a customs union or infrastructure

May's MP session is a mix of Brexitters chest-beating, and rationale people desperately trying to get any sort of concrete pragmatic response.

We're so so strawberry floated

Urm, it isn't an open boarder is it? I seem to remember having to cross through a border checkpoint to enter the US from Canada. I guess you could probably cross illegally but that's not really what's meant by an open border.

Lagamorph wrote:

Moggy wrote:

NickSCFC wrote:So we're basically being spitroasted by the EU and the USA right now?

Yeah but it’s fine because Newcastle Brown Ale will probably taste the same.

It couldn't taste any worse.

Moggy wrote:

Lagamorph wrote:

Moggy wrote:

NickSCFC wrote:So we're basically being spitroasted by the EU and the USA right now?

Yeah but it’s fine because Newcastle Brown Ale will probably taste the same.

It couldn't taste any worse.

Can you ever see a mention of food or drink and NOT make a comment about how you don’t like it?

Moggy wrote:

Lagamorph wrote:

Moggy wrote:

NickSCFC wrote:So we're basically being spitroasted by the EU and the USA right now?

Yeah but it’s fine because Newcastle Brown Ale will probably taste the same.

It couldn't taste any worse.

Can you ever see a mention of food or drink and NOT make a comment about how you don’t like it?

Moggy wrote:

lex-man wrote:

Hexx wrote:

Squinty wrote:The Guardian are reporting that May is looking at the US/Canada border for ideas on the Ireland question.

Total strawberry floating banana split.

Even better - she used that as one when asked for an example of a border without a customs union or infrastructure

May's MP session is a mix of Brexitters chest-beating, and rationale people desperately trying to get any sort of concrete pragmatic response.

We're so so strawberry floated

Urm, it isn't an open boarder is it? I seem to remember having to cross through a border checkpoint to enter the US from Canada. I guess you could probably cross illegally but that's not really what's meant by an open border.

It’s not an open border. I was stopped for hours crossing into the US from Canada. On the way back the Canadian’s just waved us through.

And that was before 9/11, I’d imagine it’s much worse now.

Skarjo wrote:

Moggy wrote:

lex-man wrote:

Hexx wrote:

Squinty wrote:The Guardian are reporting that May is looking at the US/Canada border for ideas on the Ireland question.

Total strawberry floating banana split.

Even better - she used that as one when asked for an example of a border without a customs union or infrastructure

May's MP session is a mix of Brexitters chest-beating, and rationale people desperately trying to get any sort of concrete pragmatic response.

We're so so strawberry floated

Urm, it isn't an open boarder is it? I seem to remember having to cross through a border checkpoint to enter the US from Canada. I guess you could probably cross illegally but that's not really what's meant by an open border.

It’s not an open border. I was stopped for hours crossing into the US from Canada. On the way back the Canadian’s just waved us through.

And that was before 9/11, I’d imagine it’s much worse now.

Crossing back into US from Canada after spending the day in Niagara Falls remains one of the most stressful experiences of my life as the guy systematically went through every stamp demanding to know why I'd been to every location. He also apparently couldn't fathom why I'd only been in Niagara Falls for 4 hours.

I mean, it's some water dropping, how long should it take?

The head of Vauxhall has said lack of clarity over Brexit threatens the future of its Ellesmere Port operation.
Carlos Tavares, chief executive of PSA which owns Vauxhall, Peugeot and Citroen, said clarity over the terms of the UK's departure is "a big concern".
He told the BBC that uncertainty undermined Ellesmere Port's chances of getting more work after 2021.
"We cannot invest in a world of uncertainty," he said.
He added: "No one is going to make huge investments without knowing what will be the final competitiveness of the Brexit outcome."
Speaking to the BBC's International Business Correspondent Theo Leggett at the Geneva Motor Show he said the decision on whether or not to give Ellesmere more work will need to be taken "very soon".
The company said last year it was committed to keep making the Astra at Ellesmere Port, but it has also said that manufacturing costs at Ellesmere were higher than other plants it owned.
However, it said this month that it was cutting another 250 jobs at its Ellesmere Port car plant on top of the 400 cuts it announced in October.
Vauxhall employs about 4,500 people in the UK, with about 1,800 at Ellesmere Port. The company also has a factory at Luton, which makes vans.
In August last year, PSA became Europe's second-biggest carmaker after Volkswagen when it completed the purchase of Vauxhall and German brand Opel from General Motors.

Airbus may leave UK unless there is urgent clarity on Brexit trade

Airbus has warned it would have to consider its position in the UK without imminent clarity over customs rules after Brexit.

The European aerospace manufacturer said it would soon have to decide whether to start stockpiling parts to avoid border delays, adding costs that could make its British operations uncompetitive.

Katherine Bennett, senior vice-president for Airbus in the UK, said that despite some welcome assurances from government over Brexit, the firm feared that customs and paperwork would delay its manufacturing process.

Airbus employs about 15,000 people in the UK and moves parts between other EU countries and wing-making operations at Broughton in north Wales and Filton, near Bristol.

Bennett said: “It’s critical for our business to ensure that the wings that we build in Broughton and in Filton can get to France and Germany for the final assembly line.”

Bennett said that Airbus spends about £5bn each year on the UK supply chain. “It’s really important that the parts don’t get held up in warehouses. We have a very just-in-time delivery system.”

She told the BBC Today programme that a three-hour wait on a lorry at Dover “would be a critically bad issue for Airbus”, as would be delaying cargo flights carrying completed wings to Europe.

While she welcomed the announcement in Theresa May’s Mansion House speech that Britain intended to remain a member of EASA, the air safety certification agency, Bennett warned that customs remained “pretty critical for us” and said that Airbus very soon “will have to press a button on a decision on stockpiling parts”.

She added: “It would be very expensive for us and a burden we don’t want to be suffering. Our key preference is for the UK to remain a home nation for Airbus. But we really need the conditions for us to be effective. We don’t want extra costs on our UK business which may make Airbus think differently about us.”

Return_of_the_STAR wrote:Vauxhall chief warns of Brexit threat to Ellesmere Port

Garth wrote:

Airbus may leave UK unless there is urgent clarity on Brexit trade

twitter.com/alanferrier/status/970683680384606209

KK wrote:9 times out of ten, I personally would like things to be made and owned where they're supposed to be (and try to purchase accordingly) but that generally isn't how the world works any more. Sometimes it makes no difference to the quality of the product, other times it does. Would Newcastle Brown Ale be any different in terms of taste or quality if it was made in another country or anywhere else in the UK? No. Do I like knowing it's still from Newscastle? Absolutely.

You could argue how can Colman’s Mustard in Norwich still be called Colman’s of Norwich when the vast majority of it will now be made in Germany & Burton upon Trent.