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by Brerlappin » Tue Jun 13, 2017 7:19 pm

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The Evil Within 2 is a sequel to the 2014 action-stealth survival-horror hit (the original game at this point has sold around 5 million copies), featuring Sebastian Castellanos (the protagonist of the first game) three years after the events that occurred in Beacon Mental Hospital. He tried to find those responsible for what happened to him but with no leads and his wild tales making people think he went mad, he lost his job at the KCPD and spirals into self-destruction at the end of a bottle. Out of nowhere, Juli Kidman (a character who experienced the same events Sebastian did in the original and the protagonist of two of the DLC chapters for the original game) returns and reveals to Sebastian that his daughter, Lily, who he thought had died in a house fire many years ago, is actually alive. And if Sebastian will do something to help a shady organization known as Mobius (the organization that Kidman works for), he may be able to save her.

The game is a sequel to the original game and does take place after events of the original, but they have confirmed playing the original game is not a necessity. Apparently they've prepared a 'catch-up' within the game itself to learn the important information from the original game for those who want to dive straight into the sequel. One important piece to know is that the original TEW and this sequel primarily take place in a system known as 'STEM', which in basic is a machine that connects peoples brains together to mentally exist in another world. To quote one of the writers of The Evil Within 2, think of STEM like The Matrix if it was run by Freddy Krueger. The purpose of STEM is still unknown at this time outside of its origins and that Mobius seems to really want a stable STEM system for their own agenda we will apparently learn more about in TEW2.

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STEM needs a person (known as a 'Core') at the center of it to unify the different people who get attached to the machine. The Core basically works as the 'administrator' unit of the STEM, everyone within the STEM is a mental projection of themselves but the only person with full control is the Core. Without a Core, people's own mental spaces can begin to run wild and conjure things from the subconscious, and there seems to be an especially strong knack for the STEM to conjure up a person's innermost fears in weird ways. Lily was apparently the 'Core' of a STEM unit that Mobius had made and kept running, hosting a utopian city known as Union. However for reasons unknown, Lily just suddenly disappeared from within her own STEM. Mobius does not know how or why, but with her gone things have begun to go to hell in Union, as people are beginning to lose themselves to a nightmare within the STEM, and some of the people inside have gone on a power trip to take control of Union to change it into their own vision of utopia. They're all mentally stuck there until the Core returns and can't be extracted, but people can still go in. Mobius sent in several units of their own to respond and try to control and find out what happened to the Core, but things go south. In a last ditch effort to save all the time and money they've put into this STEM, they've contacted Sebastian as their last hope. He both has experience with STEM being a survivor of the Beacon Mental Hospital incident, and as Lily's father maybe injecting him into the STEM can get some sort of response out of Lily, wherever she is. Sebastian, broken and without much to lose, and given a chance to save his daughter, accepts this deal and enters into STEM one more time.

One of the big goals of The Evil Within 2 is to make a much better story than the original, with a cast of more likable and human characters. They have voiced they think the story of the game will be a surprise for many people, especially when it kicks into gear during the second half of the game. We will certainly see soon enough.

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The Evil Within 2 is a third-person survival-horror game with some deeper level of action, stealth, and trap mechanics. One goal for the team in TEW2 was to make the player have more options while playing than the original game; in the original the game was mostly linear and often there was but one way to progress. They've worked at making it so different people can use different playstyles to get through the same scenarios in very different ways.

When you start The Evil Within 2, there are three difficulty levels: Casual, Survival, and Nightmare. Casual is easier than Casual in the original TEW, but still not quite a cakewalk. It's recommended for players who want to not get too frustrated and are here for the story and experience rather than challenge. There's a variety of gameplay changes to make the game easier, including some abilities you need to usually spend resources on to upgrade being unlocked from the start, less and easier enemy placement, more resources in general, and other things you can turn on/off to make the game easier (like aim assist, which is an available option on Casual and Survival but not Nightmare and above). In contrast, Nightmare difficulty is recommended for people who like survival-horror games, it is apparently around the level of challenge of Survival in the original game, and has changes made for those who have more experience in the genre. It's also confirmed there's an unlockable difficulty which is NOT Akumu Mode from the original (no one-hit kills from everything) which will have limited saving, remixed scenarios, and other surprises we'll have to see when the game releases.

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You are not defenseless in TEW, you get a knife and a handgun relatively early, and can gain more weapons over the course of the game such as shotguns, sniper rifles, crossbows, and more. Combat has seen improvements from the original, including a much wider camera when aiming, now being able to do a quick-turn, and a more extensive weapon upgrade system. In TEW2, you'll find Weapon Parts and High-Grade Weapon Parts, which can be used to both upgrade your weapon and repair broken weapons you find when you locate all the weapon parts. You must choose what to use your weapon parts on, as there's not nearly enough to upgrade all your weapons and repair all weapons you find in the game in a single playthrough (though the game does have New Game+).

However, this is a survival-horror game. You do have limited resources and ammo, and have other options than just fighting. You need to pick and choose your battles, as while there are new options to sacrifice certain resources for others (there's an extended crafting element in the game compared to the original to let you choose what to make), you can and will run out of ammo if you go crazy with shooting monsters up.

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You can 'build' a Sebastian that's more oriented to fighting, however. Like the original TEW, there is an upgrade system for Sebastian himself using Green Gel (and a new Red Gel). You collect it from enemies and around the environment, though in a single playthrough it's impossible to fully upgrade Sebastian, so again you must pick and choose where to use your upgrade gel. Sebastian can upgrade his abilities in five area: Health, Stealth, Combat, Recovery, and Athleticism. Some upgrades are straight forward, such as increased max health, increased stamina, steadier aim... But there's some new and special quirks you can get too. Some quirks you can upgrade include having one-hit kill attacks no longer kill you, just nearly kill you but leave you alive with either a little or a lot of health left. Another quirk helps give Sebastian a small chance to dodge and avoid damage from certain types of attacks. There's also crazier abilities you can get, though they are expensive and to get them you'll need to focus on unlocking them. These abilities include a curb-stomp move to kill enemies on the ground, an ability to slow-down time while you're aiming, and a combo-like ability where your default gun damage is lower but you can start to get a 'combo', every time you shoot an enemy before the combo timer runs out you deliver more and more damage with each shot, increasing the damage output until either you run out of time and the combo ends or you run out of ammo. The crazier abilities are crazy expensive though, and you need to pick and choose what you want to upgrade with gel as you play to fit your playstyle.

Stealth has seen some big improvements since the original game as well, now allowing you to take and move from cover for stealth, a more refined enemy detection system and better use of light/darkness, sounds, and more environmental uses to distract monsters.

Traps have also been expanded, while still using the Crossbow as the basis for special elemental weapons, their purpose and abilities have been increased (for example, you may use an electric bolt in a pool of water to have the expected result or use a ire bolt on oil or grass to spread some chaos), as well as some new types of traps such as being able to set down trip wires or a detonation mine that makes a distinct sound to attract nearby enemies.

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But the enemies and dangers of Union have also seen an increase in nightmarish variety and threat since the original game as well. The main zombie-like enemies of the game are known as "Losts", lost souls to Union, who will not go down easily if their brain isn't taken out (and headshots have to be precise, as you can shoot off part of their faces rather than hitting them squarely in the brain). There are also new crazier types of the main enemy forces, including a type known as Hysterics who are far more aggressive, sporadic, relentless.

The enemy train doesn't stop there though, there's all sorts of weird twisted monstrosities within Union. Some of the biggest monsters can not be killed, but the screen tints to a blue tone when you're around a foe who is unbeatable to let you know not to mess with it (some unstopable forces wander dynamically through the game world). There is a much bigger enemy variety than the original game.

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The game takes place in a mentalscape small American town known as Union. The Evil Within 2 compared to the original game will have more open levels to explore, but the game itself is not an open world game. A more apt comparison is some hybrid of the original Silent Hill and Silent Hill Downpour. The game has a chapter system like the original, and still has linear levels and areas. However, in-between main story chapters you'll go to larger, more explorable levels with optional stuff to do in them. There isn't a whole big 'open world', as much as there's 'provinces' of Union you'll go to. In the original Silent Hill, in-between the main stages you went back to the town itself. The town is never 100% fully explorable, but you reach different segments which fill the in-between from the main locales. This is the easiest way to describe Union, you go to different sections of the town in-between the main locations, which act more like larger levels you can explore. And there are side-questions and optional places to explore, which are handled similarly to Silent Hill Downpour. Instead of receiving quests from NPCs or having to destroy X Losts or whatever, you instead find optional stuff to do more organically by exploring Union, stumbling on oddities and mysteries, and taking part in optional gameplay scenarios that flow with the exploration of the town.

You can also choose to skip all of this and just rush to the next story bit, or take the time to explore these sequences. These are great chances to restock and resupply, but be warned that this isn't a safe space, when exploring you can stumble upon horrors you'll have to overcome and other dangers and oddities.

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One tool that helps you in these segments is your communicator, which is something you use to talk to Juli Kidman with back in the real world but also helps you out in Union. It gives you where 'signals' from traces of Lily are that can point you to the next objective, but it also picks up on nearby sounds and odd waves being given off in Union, which if you choose you may use to try to track down optional stuff to partake in... Though not all waves are safe or friendly.

It's also been said by Shinki Mikami (producer) and the game's director, John Johanas, that the side-quests and Union become a smaller part of the game in the second half when the story really starts kicking off, which is an intentional design decision for pacing. Their presence will lessen over the course of the game as things begin to kick into gear.

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The game is running on a custom engine by Tango Gameworks, which uses some of the skeleton of both idTech 5 & 6 within it. A Frankenstein Engine, of sorts. They put it together to fit their own needs, but have aimed to elevate some issues of the original, including reducing and removing many load times, lowering the amount and time of texture pop-ins with the engine, allowing much easier HD resolutions and 60fps (on PC, console FPS hasn't been confirmed yet), and to have a lusher lighting system for them and to allow much bigger levels.

The game will support PS4 Pro and Xbox One X Enhancement, being able to run at 4K on PC, PS4 Pro, and XOX. It also has HDR support on all platforms.



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We won't know until we know, but the previews from people who played an hour of the game at Gamescom, PAX Prime, & QuakeCon (Chapters 2 & 3 of the game) were quite positive:

PCGamer


Rock, Paper, Shotgun


ShackNews


Rely on Horror


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Windows Central


Blast Away


Games Reactor


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Extended Gameplay Trailer

Race Against Time Trailer

[B]The Evil Within 2 E3 Announcement Trailer


Gruesome Giggling Guardian Gameplay

The Evil Within 2 1-Hour Bethesda Livestream

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PostRe: The Evil Within 2: Evil Harder
by chalkitdown » Tue Jun 13, 2017 7:28 pm

I'm hoping this is more like the first half of the original rather than the action packed batshit-insane second half. Crazy that it's out in just a few months.

And no letterboxing thank strawberry float.

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PostRe: The Evil Within 2: Evil Harder
by Death's Head » Tue Jun 13, 2017 7:53 pm

Nice. When is this bad boy out?

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by chalkitdown » Tue Jun 13, 2017 7:55 pm

Death's Head wrote:Nice. When is this bad boy out?


13th of October.

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PostRe: The Evil Within 2: Evil Harder
by Zellery » Tue Jun 13, 2017 8:10 pm

Looking forward to it.

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PostRe: The Evil Within 2: Evil Harder
by SugarDave » Tue Jun 13, 2017 8:17 pm

Those bullets points almost make it sound like they've taken heavy inspiration from Silent Hill in the way they're approaching the story and characters. I'll be keeping an eye on this.

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PostRe: The Evil Within 2: Evil Harder. Out 13th Oct 2017
by Brerlappin » Wed Jun 14, 2017 5:03 pm

story trailer:

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PostRe: The Evil Within 2: Evil Harder. Out 13th Oct 2017
by Glowy69 » Wed Jun 14, 2017 8:29 pm

The 2nd half of the original was strawberry floating gooseberry fool. The first half was decent. Yes pls.

Fabian Delph is a banana split.

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PostRe: The Evil Within 2: Evil Harder. Out 13th Oct 2017
by Brerlappin » Wed Jun 14, 2017 9:41 pm

Glowy69 wrote:The 2nd half of the original was strawberry floating gooseberry fool. The first half was decent. Yes pls.


You should replay it. The second half is actually pretty good just more action heavy. Also it's actually only about 4 chapters out of 15. If you do NG+ and you're fully tooled up, the last chapters can be pretty damn enjoyable

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by Death's Head » Wed Jun 14, 2017 10:05 pm

Agreed, I enjoyed the whole game, other than some frustrating difficult bits.

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PostRe: The Evil Within 2: Evil Harder. Out 13th Oct 2017
by Glowy69 » Thu Jun 15, 2017 8:38 am

Brerlappin wrote:
Glowy69 wrote:The 2nd half of the original was strawberry floating gooseberry fool. The first half was decent. Yes pls.


You should replay it. The second half is actually pretty good just more action heavy. Also it's actually only about 4 chapters out of 15. If you do NG+ and you're fully tooled up, the last chapters can be pretty damn enjoyable


Think i got to some sort of pit where it fires all monsters at you in waves and i ran out of ammo. Got annoyed and gave up tbh.

Fabian Delph is a banana split.

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by Death's Head » Thu Jun 15, 2017 12:35 pm

Glowy69 wrote:
Brerlappin wrote:
Glowy69 wrote:The 2nd half of the original was strawberry floating gooseberry fool. The first half was decent. Yes pls.


You should replay it. The second half is actually pretty good just more action heavy. Also it's actually only about 4 chapters out of 15. If you do NG+ and you're fully tooled up, the last chapters can be pretty damn enjoyable


Think i got to some sort of pit where it fires all monsters at you in waves and i ran out of ammo. Got annoyed and gave up tbh.

Did you try dropping the difficulty? I remember that bit, it did take quite a few attempts and multiple swear word combos.

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PostRe: The Evil Within 2: Evil Harder. Out 13th Oct 2017
by Cal » Thu Jun 15, 2017 1:52 pm

Another one I'll enjoy watching other people play, I think. I never came even close to finishing the first one. Too stressful. :lol:

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by Saint of Killers » Fri Aug 25, 2017 9:11 am


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by Brerlappin » Wed Sep 20, 2017 1:43 pm

Updated OP with content blatantly stolen from Neogaf

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PostRe: The Evil Within 2: Evil Harder on 13th Oct 2017. First Previews up now
by Brerlappin » Thu Sep 21, 2017 10:28 pm

Early impressions out now

Venturebeat: Horror so well done that you can't look away
(...)It was one of the weirdest boss fights I’ve ever encountered in a game. But it doesn’t surprise me. Whoever comes up with stuff is deranged. And I’m sure that they are very proud of themselves that they can scare me so bad by using all the old tricks in the book.

If you’re squeamish, you better watch out for this one. But if you think you can stomach the gore, The Evil Within 2 will show you just what it takes to do survival horror the right way.
Games Radar - An intriguing blend of The Last of Us and Silent Hill
Fewer boo scares, more insanity - this is a refined, smart evolution of The Evil Within. And even though it still scares the hell out of me, it’s something I’m incredibly excited to play.



Game Revolution - Weaving a Tapestry of Horror
It had me on edge the entire time, representative of the level as a whole. It got me in the spooky fall mood, and has me actually interested in The Evil Within 2 when I wasn't before.
Rock, Paper, Shotgun - How The Evil Within 2 tries to be an open world b-movie
I will accept the game as whole’s apparent absence of wit and over-reliance on Oh No Yet Another Horrible Thing if it really is the case that I can burn through my own private hell for kicks over a lunchtime. I’m not interested in repeatedly screaming at things made of bones and sundered flesh and teeth and spikes all put together in the wrong order, but I am interested in trotting off to a random compass point and surviving whatever horrors lurk behind the next door I choose to open.


Stevivor - The Evil Within 2 Laughing in the face of Resident Evil 7
The original Evil Within was a breath of fresh air in an otherwise stale genre, and The Evil Within 2 looks to be polished beyond that. It’s a must-play for fans of survival horror and another injection of pure Mikami straight into our veins. It can’t come fast enough.



RelyOnHorror
The Evil Within 2 shares a lot in common with the first game, from how it moves, sounds and plays, but a sense of change also permeates the game, and I’m curious to see whether that’s ultimately for the best. In my time with the demo, there wasn’t much for me to complain about. Aside from some occasional performance hitches and my still on-the-fence stance regarding the game’s less-gritty art direction, The Evil Within 2 appeals to my enjoyment of excess gross-out horror similarly to the first game. There’s no denying that The Evil Within 2 feels bigger and more adventurous — is that a good thing for a survival horror game, though? We’ll see.


Polygon
At this point it all feels familiar, even old fashioned. The voice acting is is trifle forced, the characters are a bit silly. And yet The Evil Within 2 manages to create a sense of fear and tension, even when it's raiding the hoary old chest of fright-moments. Mikami understands light, sound and fear.
Daily Start - The Evil Within 2 could be the survival-horror game to usurp Resident Evil and Silent Hill
It’s more like a psychological thriller than an outright horror game, but you know what? That’s OK. Because the game manages to ramp up the tension when it needs to, it manages to dish out just enough resources to make it challenging, without making it easy. It manages to convincingly trick you with camera mechanics and sound design fake-outs enough that you’re always on your toes. It manages to deliver an authentically creepy story with enough intriguing mysteries to keep you invested.

So it’s not an all-out horror game. But it retains all the gameplay tenets that’ll keep players in the genre interested whilst allowing itself the flexibility to experiment.

And that’s why we’ve come away from The Evil Within 2 cautiously optimistic about the final release.



PC World - The Evil Within 2 is an artistic approach to horror
Do I think The Evil Within 2 is going to be a must-play experience? Eh, probably not. In a lot of ways it still feels like a B-game, same as the original. Even with a more polished presentation it’s comfortably niche.

But for those who felt like the first had some good ideas buried under terrible decisions—people like me, in other words—I think The Evil Within 2 is going to be an interesting proposition. A lot of elements have been reworked, and a lot of the clunkiness hammered out in the process. What’s left, at least from my limited hands-on time, is a wonderfully artistic take on horror, and one that can focus on those elements because it’s better at switching off between action and survival as needed. I’m intrigued enough that, as I said, I even reinstalled the original and have been trying to force myself through it before the sequel releases October 13.

Now cross your fingers that the checkpoint system this time around isn’t an utter disaster.


NZGamer
By all accounts, Tango Gameworks have learnt from the first game’s glaring mechanical issues. But they’re also doubling down on the franchise’s unique identity, with horrifying monsters and oppressive environments. We’ll know come October 13 if The Evil Within 2 has pulled it off.

Rolling Stone
Even with the small amount of time I spent inside The Evil Within 2, it's obvious that this is going to be a disturbing, perhaps frightening creation.
Shack News
There seems to be a lot to be scared of with The Evil Within 2. It looks to be hitting all the survival horror notes right, offering up improved combat while also downplaying that element of the game in favor of creating a generally more frightful atmosphere. Whether Sebastian's journey will remain this enjoyable the whole way remains to be seen, but players will soon be able to pick up his investigation for themselves when The Evil Within 2 arrives on PC, Xbox One, and PlayStation on Friday, October 13.
Gamewatcher
It was only a short, sweet burst of The Evil Within 2, but it already seems a much better game (than the original). No idea if it’ll be just as hard to follow, storyline-wise, but in terms of gameplay it’s both creepy and entertaining. Pure action fans expecting Resident Evil 4 or Dead Space might be a little put-off by the stealth and lack of ammo (at least in the part I played), but survival horror fans looking for actual big budget horror? They should be delighted.

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PostRe: The Evil Within 2: Out 13th Oct 2017. Previews out now: "An intriguing blend of The Last of Us and Silent Hill"
by smurphy » Thu Sep 21, 2017 10:33 pm

The first was such an unexpected treat. I consider it more of a sequel to RE4 than any actual RE game. I just hope the new one manages more than 20 fps on PS4.

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by KjGarly » Thu Sep 21, 2017 11:06 pm

smurphy wrote:The first was such an unexpected treat. I consider it more of a sequel to RE4 than any actual RE game. I just hope the new one manages more than 20 fps on PS4.


Isn't the first game fine now if your a Pro owned using Boost Mode?

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PostRe: The Evil Within 2: Out 13th Oct 2017. Previews out now: "An intriguing blend of The Last of Us and Silent Hill"
by Buffalo » Fri Sep 22, 2017 8:58 am

I didn’t follow the plot of the 1st game at all so I’m not hugely up for this. I doubt the story matters in games like this.
I finished the 1st game, all on my own...quite proud of that :shifty:

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PostRe: The Evil Within 2: Out 13th Oct 2017. Previews out now: "An intriguing blend of The Last of Us and Silent Hill"
by smurphy » Fri Sep 22, 2017 6:44 pm

The story wasn't terrible actually, for a Japanese horror game. You can just tell it's going to go Resident Evil levels of batshit though. I don't think they can help themselves.


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