The Football Thread 2018-19 - This is the end.

the blackout rule is ridiculous in this day and age
"oh no, theres no football on, ill go watch Accrington Stanley instead"
:roll:

Who are they.

Exactly.

No other country has a football pyramid as strong as the Football League. The 3pm rule should remain at least until the European League comes along and kills football off completely, if only to keep up the pretense that the concept of community football clubs should be upheld as a cornerstone of the entire sport.

I know noone actually gives a strawberry float and just wants to watch any old televised gooseberry fool on their sofa.

i completely disagree
nobody who currently watches live football on the terraces is going to stop because of matches on tv - theyre going to stop because a) the football is gooseberry fool, b) the tickets are too expensive, or c) a combination of the two
watching your local team =/ watching european football on tv

Actually I watch my local team (Farnborough FC) every so often but if they started to show games on TV at 3pm my local team would lose out at times.

I go to see my local team almost every home game, but I would like to be able to watch their away matches at 3pm on TV please.

I can't imagine anyone that regularly goes to watch football at any level in the UK choosing to watch a random Bundesliga or Ligue Une game instead.

<]:^D wrote:the blackout rule is ridiculous in this day and age
"oh no, theres no football on, ill go watch Accrington Stanley instead"

It's not that way round though that's the worry is it?

It's meant to be stopping an Accrington Stanley fan staying in and watching Man United v Liverpool instead. You might get season ticket holders at lower league/non-leagie clubs picking and choosing games based on what's on TV. Some of it might be scare-mongering but you can definitely see it happening towards the end of the season when there could be decisive PL games on and some people decide to watch them instead.

To be honest, I have no problem with 3pm games on a Saturday not being shown. There aren't shortages of watchable games across the week and it's largely oversaturated coverage of the same half a dozen teams anyway.

Not every game needs to be televised. As a Boro fan, I get to see half a dozen or so games on TV each year (a little more if we are in the promotion battles). I can accept that, so why can't Chelsea, United, City, Liverpool fans who gets to see upwards of 20-30 matches a year?

For me, if we aren't on TV I accept I will have to listen to the local radio (I pay a subscription fee but that's fine as it's locally made and decent), or I have to get myself there in person. Back when I was in the UK, I got a season ticket so I could see the home games.

For fans that live apart from their teams, why do you demand even more coverage? As I said, these fans tend to support the big clubs who get a massive share of the coverage pie (and cash) already. Missing out on games is part and parcel of being a fan of a big side and living elsewhere. You're already missing out on going to home games every other week, so I don't know why people get uppity about TV coverage. You made the choice to follow one that's a couple of hundred miles away.

I'm not sure why some fans demand games at 3pm. 90% of other fans have to accept their team rarely being on TV.

The less United are on TV at the moment, the better. They always seem to play like utter dogshit when I watch them live. Plus if they were on my wife would eventually get fed up of me being unavailable to her and the kids for 2 hours nearly every Saturday afternoon. That's prime time with the familam man.

The other thing is, there's literally a game on just before the 3pm kick off. And a game on straight after.

So much time is given over to TV football, I find it a bit weird people complain about a set of 90 minute games that aren't on TV. How about that 90 minutes each week is set aside purely for live football, for being in a stadium or a ground. Considering the amount of TV coverage it doesn't seem that bad. We have enough football fans as it is who purely watch the game on TV and don't get to experience it in the flesh.

If you're that desperate to go watch a game, there's surely one near you anyway (though we all know you won't go out and watch one).

Parksey wrote:
<]:^D wrote:the blackout rule is ridiculous in this day and age
"oh no, theres no football on, ill go watch Accrington Stanley instead"

It's not that way round though that's the worry is it?

It's meant to be stopping an Accrington Stanley fan staying in and watching Man United v Liverpool instead. You might get season ticket holders at lower league/non-leagie clubs picking and choosing games based on what's on TV. Some of it might be scare-mongering but you can definitely see it happening towards the end of the season when there could be decisive PL games on and some people decide to watch them instead.

To be honest, I have no problem with 3pm games on a Saturday not being shown. There aren't shortages of watchable games across the week and it's largely oversaturated coverage of the same half a dozen teams anyway.

Not every game needs to be televised. As a Boro fan, I get to see half a dozen or so games on TV each year (a little more if we are in the promotion battles). I can accept that, so why can't Chelsea, United, City, Liverpool fans who gets to see upwards of 20-30 matches a year?

For me, if we aren't on TV I accept I will have to listen to the local radio (I pay a subscription fee but that's fine as it's locally made and decent), or I have to get myself there in person. Back when I was in the UK, I got a season ticket so I could see the home games.

For fans that live apart from their teams, why do you demand even more coverage? As I said, these fans tend to support the big clubs who get a massive share of the coverage pie (and cash) already. Missing out on games is part and parcel of being a fan of a big side and living elsewhere. You're already missing out on going to home games every other week, so I don't know why people get uppity about TV coverage. You made the choice to follow one that's a couple of hundred miles away.

I'm not sure why some fans demand games at 3pm. 90% of other fans have to accept their team rarely being on TV.

Most of that is no longer true. The vast majority of Championship (and I think lower football league) matches are now available on Sky as an option with the red button.

I can see why lower league clubs worry about losing fans to the TV, but I think it’s silly that kick offs at 3pm on a Saturday is not allowed.

Soccer Saturday > Any televised game would be

Only the midweek Championship games are available via the red button...

Benzin wrote:Soccer Saturday > Any televised game would be

Only the midweek Championship games are available via the red button...

I don’t have Sky, but I have seen plenty of fans saying it works for Sunday games and has worked for Saturday night games as well.

I wasn’t sure about League One/Two, they really should extend it to those clubs as well.

It's less about it not being allowed, more that the Saturday 3pm kick off is traditional, and about what I said before about having at least one short period a week devoted simply to live football across the country. TV gets the other 90% of the time. So why can't live football get that 90 minutes each week?

Parksey wrote:It's less about it not being allowed, more that the Saturday 3pm kick off is traditional, and about what I said before about having at least one short period a week devoted simply to live football across the country. TV gets the other 90% of the time. So why can't live football get that 90 minutes each week?

Live football does get that time though. Fans still go to games that are on TV and they still go to games if there is another match on TV. People still go to non-league games on a Saturday.

3pm Saturday is the traditional kick off time but there is no real reason why a match can’t be shown on TV.

It costs £22 a ticket to watch my local team in League Two. £22! I've been a few times and each time the quality of football has been appalling.

Can't believe anyone pays for sport. Absolute rip-off.

Parksey wrote:
<]:^D wrote:the blackout rule is ridiculous in this day and age
"oh no, theres no football on, ill go watch Accrington Stanley instead"

It's not that way round though that's the worry is it?

It's meant to be stopping an Accrington Stanley fan staying in and watching Man United v Liverpool instead. You might get season ticket holders at lower league/non-leagie clubs picking and choosing games based on what's on TV. Some of it might be scare-mongering but you can definitely see it happening towards the end of the season when there could be decisive PL games on and some people decide to watch them instead.

To be honest, I have no problem with 3pm games on a Saturday not being shown. There aren't shortages of watchable games across the week and it's largely oversaturated coverage of the same half a dozen teams anyway.

Not every game needs to be televised. As a Boro fan, I get to see half a dozen or so games on TV each year (a little more if we are in the promotion battles). I can accept that, so why can't Chelsea, United, City, Liverpool fans who gets to see upwards of 20-30 matches a year?

For me, if we aren't on TV I accept I will have to listen to the local radio (I pay a subscription fee but that's fine as it's locally made and decent), or I have to get myself there in person. Back when I was in the UK, I got a season ticket so I could see the home games.

For fans that live apart from their teams, why do you demand even more coverage? As I said, these fans tend to support the big clubs who get a massive share of the coverage pie (and cash) already. Missing out on games is part and parcel of being a fan of a big side and living elsewhere. You're already missing out on going to home games every other week, so I don't know why people get uppity about TV coverage. You made the choice to follow one that's a couple of hundred miles away.

I'm not sure why some fans demand games at 3pm. 90% of other fans have to accept their team rarely being on TV.

Games like United v Liverpool will never be on Saturday at 3PM, so they won't clash with the EFL fixtures. Your comment about big team oversaturation would also be reduced if they showed 3PM games as Southampton v Newcastle would be available for those interested, and it would probably be slightly cheaper than equivalent masochistic video streaming sites.

I think we've discussed Middlesbrough before. It's all well and good saying "just buy a season ticket" at a plastic seat showroom too big for the population it serves like the Riverside or DW (which is the size it is for rugby league, not football). It's just not as feasible at the Emirates or Old Trafford. I grew up near Highbury and the Emirates and could only get tickets to a few games a season through both availability and affordability. I've also had a season ticket at a club I didn't support (Wigan), and watched a number of games live as a neutral. Whilst they were all fun, it lacked the attachment of watching your own team.

I don't think the 3PM games should be on TV, but the clubs should be able to manage access to their fixtures through their websites via a subscription fee. That way you'd have to register to watch and you wouldn't be able to channel hop without dropping a lot in subscription fees.

The best left back in Europe (according to Mafro) Shaw has signed a 5 year extension for Manu.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/45904045

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