The Gaming Drama Thread - Pewdiepie is Racist.

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by jiggles » Mon Sep 11, 2017 2:23 pm

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bear wrote:A few lower profile Youtubers were making the point that this incident will probably hurt their ad revenue even more than Pewdiepies earlier shitehawkery already has. Obviously this is bad.

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Not every Youtuber is an asshole with a couple of million subscribers. It sucks that the actions of someone like Pewdiepie will have more of an effect on smaller YouTubers than it will on himself.

I just don't care about the ad revenue for Youtubers, especially people who are just uploading footage of them playing a game sometime else made.


Well, unfortunately, it is no longer 2003, and this is now the #1 format for games media. As fun as I'm sure it is to ask "who cares?" about streamers or Let's Play videos.

But this is seriously derailing the issue. How out of touch you are with games coverage in 2017 doesn't really have anything to do with PDP being a banana split.

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PostRe: The Gaming Drama Thread - Pewdiepie is Racist.
by Floex » Mon Sep 11, 2017 4:20 pm

Taf, your one man crusade on dense idiots on the BBC news tweet is superb.

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by Tafdolphin » Mon Sep 11, 2017 4:30 pm

Floex wrote:Taf, your one man crusade on dense idiots on the BBC news tweet is superb.


Haha, thanks! Woke up this morning and got proper dug in. I like to think it's the modern form of self flagellation; self inflicted suffering for the greater good.

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PostRe: The Gaming Drama Thread - Pewdiepie is Racist.
by Tineash » Mon Sep 11, 2017 4:47 pm

What a racist banana split.

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PostRe: The Gaming Drama Thread - Pewdiepie is Racist.
by Squinty » Mon Sep 11, 2017 6:41 pm

Floex wrote:Taf, your one man crusade on dense idiots on the BBC news tweet is superb.


I took a look at this. Bravo Taf.

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by Lagamorph » Mon Sep 11, 2017 6:44 pm

Squinty wrote:
Floex wrote:Taf, your one man crusade on dense idiots on the BBC news tweet is superb.


I took a look at this. Bravo Taf.

Anyone got a link? Not sure I have Taf on Twitter.

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PostRe: The Gaming Drama Thread - Pewdiepie is Racist.
by Rog » Mon Sep 11, 2017 7:03 pm

So it's been over 24 hours and reported everywhere. How many subscribers do you think he has lost in that time?

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PostRe: The Gaming Drama Thread - Pewdiepie is Racist.
by Knoyleo » Mon Sep 11, 2017 7:07 pm

jiggles wrote:
Knoyleo wrote:
bear wrote:
Knoyleo wrote:
bear wrote:A few lower profile Youtubers were making the point that this incident will probably hurt their ad revenue even more than Pewdiepies earlier shitehawkery already has. Obviously this is bad.

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Not every Youtuber is an asshole with a couple of million subscribers. It sucks that the actions of someone like Pewdiepie will have more of an effect on smaller YouTubers than it will on himself.

I just don't care about the ad revenue for Youtubers, especially people who are just uploading footage of them playing a game sometime else made.


Well, unfortunately, it is no longer 2003, and this is now the #1 format for games media. As fun as I'm sure it is to ask "who cares?" about streamers or Let's Play videos.

But this is seriously derailing the issue. How out of touch you are with games coverage in 2017 doesn't really have anything to do with PDP being a banana split.

It's not that much of a derailment. Bear was questioning the impact this might have for other youtube users.

I suppose I am out of touch with games "coverage" (if you can call it that,) in 2017. I find it frustrating that when I go to Youtube to find games footage, the top results often aren't official trailers or from reputable gaming websites, but let's plays and stream footage, complete with screaming teenager overreacting to everything that happens. I don't want that. I want footage captured by actual games journalists, not some fanboy who's been given an advance copy of the game to shill the strawberry float out of it without being required to make any declaration that their "FIRST 22 HOURS OF *Big hit game here* I GET TOTALLY DESTROYED AND I LOVE IT" video is actually a 22 hour long paid for advert. Clearly there are millions that do want this, and they have it, but I don't, so I suppose my reaction is to just not care about it.

At the same time though, I guess there are probably plenty of kids out there who just enjoy streaming stuff, and if Youtube/Google are going to profit from that, then it's only fair they get a share of it for making that content. Ultimately, I personally reckon a share should also go to the creators of the game in questions, because it's actually their content. I can see why some developers feel ripped off watching streamers make money playing their game, while other watch that footage for free, get to experience their game, and never pay a penny to them. Maybe the stuff that really puts me off is when you get people grifting for "donations" in streams, like they're some charity case, or the ones who post sob stories about how they don't make enough on their ad revenue and views to make a living, as though they're somehow entitled to it just because they've uploaded x hours of footage in a month.

Ultimately, having thought about it, regardless of what I value it at, it would be a real shame if someone who's able to make a bit of side income, or even their main income, out of doing this, loses out because some fuckstick millionaire who happens to work in the same field ruins it for everyone by being a racist dickhead. I felt genuinely bad a while back watching the Joe Goes video about how many of his videos have been demonetised or had monetisation reduced, and all with no specific reason given, and that was as a result of their ad crackdown after the last pewdiediedie fiasco, and ads showing up on ISIS videos. I guess I can't really expect the impact of Youtube's ad policies to just be restricted to people who I personally think don't make deserving enough videos.

That went on far too long. Essentially, I retract my who cares statement.

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PostRe: The Gaming Drama Thread - Pewdiepie is Racist.
by Trelliz » Mon Sep 11, 2017 8:01 pm



Tl;dr version (for the second half mostly) - shitters like pewds will accelerate the withdrawal of advertising for lots of other youtubers and hasten more stringent regulation to strawberry float everything up because of the worst individuals like him.

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PostRe: The Gaming Drama Thread - Pewdiepie is Racist.
by Dual » Tue Sep 12, 2017 8:06 am

I don't understand any of this therefore it is stupid and anyone who has an opinion about it either way is also stupid and a bad person.

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by Jazzem » Tue Sep 12, 2017 12:14 pm

Dig Dug wrote:*losing the point in Overwatch tweet*


:lol:

Amazing responses being made to the unbelievably stupid "everyone loses their cool when gaming" argument that keeps popping up

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by LewisD » Tue Sep 12, 2017 1:38 pm

Rog wrote:So it's been over 24 hours and reported everywhere. How many subscribers do you think he has lost in that time?

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Holy gooseberry fool.... Is that $19k a day?!

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PostRe: The Gaming Drama Thread - Pewdiepie is Racist.
by Tineash » Tue Sep 12, 2017 6:02 pm

Trelliz wrote:

Tl;dr version (for the second half mostly) - shitters like pewds will accelerate the withdrawal of advertising for lots of other youtubers and hasten more stringent regulation to strawberry float everything up because of the worst individuals like him.


I'm going to offer up the Hottest TakeTM: Maybe the biggest problem with the world's most popular Youtuber being a racist dick isn't that it's going to screw up advertising rates?

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by Karl » Tue Sep 12, 2017 6:35 pm

Moggy wrote:


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PostRe: The Gaming Drama Thread - Pewdiepie is Racist.
by Floex » Tue Sep 12, 2017 6:35 pm

makes u tink

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by PaperMacheMario » Tue Sep 12, 2017 6:58 pm

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Holy gooseberry fool. :lol:

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by more heat than light » Tue Sep 12, 2017 7:11 pm

I'd like to see Google and the streaming sites being a bit stricter on this kind of thing. I'm all for freedom of speech and everything, but if this absolute arseclown earns that kind of money, maybe blocking his account for a month might be a good way of showing people that they're not going to tolerate those kind of comments.

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PostRe: The Gaming Drama Thread - Pewdiepie is Racist.
by Pedz » Tue Sep 12, 2017 7:35 pm

more heat than light wrote:I'd like to see Google and the streaming sites being a bit stricter on this kind of thing. I'm all for freedom of speech and everything, but if this absolute arseclown earns that kind of money, maybe blocking his account for a month might be a good way of showing people that they're not going to tolerate those kind of comments.


They won't do that as they'll lose money too.

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