The History of SEGA

http://uk.retro.ign.com/articles/974/974695p1.html

Holy s*** at Periscope.Good times.

I wonder at what the future holds for SEGA.

The Grassy knoll wrote:I wonder at what the future holds for SEGA.

Further destruction of Sonic's legacy, and no Shenmue 3, I expect.

MCN wrote:

The Grassy knoll wrote:I wonder at what the future holds for SEGA.

Further destruction of Sonic's legacy, and no Shenmue 3, I expect.

I'd have to agree, they have lost their way with some of the franchises.

In my honest opinion Sonic (due to his nature) will only work properly on a 2d plane.

Same with Worms, unfortunately. Which almost wasn't released in America because it was "not 3D enough"

I don't understand why they refuse to make another 2D Sonic game, it'd be miles better than any of the 3D shite they've come out with. I'm pretty sure it'd sell better too.

Thought Sonic Rush was pretty good,though I suppose that proves your point on the 2d issue.

As long as they continue to make games like Virtua Fighter, Yakuza and Valkyria Chronicles I will be happy with SEGA.

suzzopher wrote:As long as they continue to make games like Virtua Fighter, Yakuza and Valkyria Chronicles I will be happy with SEGA.

TBH I would rather they make Arcade games for the console and try and get back to their Dreamcast days with new and innovative titles. Model 1, 2, 3 and Naomi ports along with Dreamcast ports would do me for now!

There will never be another SEGA. While their reign as a first-party has long ended, and the name hardly carries the cachet it once had, the industry owes deep debt to the former giant. An innovator and an unrivaled creative powerhouse, they were perhaps the greatest single developer in gaming history.

strawberry float off. A good 70% of their "glorious history" is fondly looked back on, but objectively uttery tripe.

"Wise fwom your gwave", indeed.

Its weird but in the not too distant future many new gamers won't have experienced any of Segas previous delights and this makes me sad. I have fond memories of playing Daytona in the arcades, the Saturn, then the Dreamcast and all of those lovely games!

That's an outstanding article.

Cheers for bringing it to my attention.

*applauds*

TheTurnipKing wrote:

There will never be another SEGA. While their reign as a first-party has long ended, and the name hardly carries the cachet it once had, the industry owes deep debt to the former giant. An innovator and an unrivaled creative powerhouse, they were perhaps the greatest single developer in gaming history.

strawberry float off. A good 70% of their "glorious history" is fondly looked back on, but objectively uttery tripe.

"Wise fwom your gwave", indeed.

So very wrong, didnt Sega pioneer both 3d racers and fighters? As well as numerous hardware accessories (VMU, analogue pad) FFS if SEGA hadnt have been here the world would have been a much duller and darker place.

glowy69 wrote:

TheTurnipKing wrote:

There will never be another SEGA. While their reign as a first-party has long ended, and the name hardly carries the cachet it once had, the industry owes deep debt to the former giant. An innovator and an unrivaled creative powerhouse, they were perhaps the greatest single developer in gaming history.

**** off. A good 70% of their "glorious history" is fondly looked back on, but objectively uttery tripe.

"Wise fwom your gwave", indeed.

So very wrong, didnt Sega pioneer both 3d racers and fighters? As well as numerous hardware accessories (VMU, analogue pad) FFS if SEGA hadnt have been here the world would have been a much duller and darker place.

Sega brought a lot of joy to the games industry through the arcade and on the home consoles. I wish they were bought out or pumped full of money and could give us the games we really crave rather than having to bring out crappy games plus crappy sonic games every few years. Shenmue 3 is not feasible anymore, but surely they could bring out a limited run of comics or anything detailing how the story finishes. Its far too late to resurrect it now, they would have to rebrand the whole franchise and try to make it appeal to the mass market.

TheTurnipKing wrote:

There will never be another SEGA. While their reign as a first-party has long ended, and the name hardly carries the cachet it once had, the industry owes deep debt to the former giant. An innovator and an unrivaled creative powerhouse, they were perhaps the greatest single developer in gaming history.

strawberry float off. A good 70% of their "glorious history" is fondly looked back on, but objectively uttery tripe.

"Wise fwom your gwave", indeed.

Sega are not bad - but a poor man's Nintendo I think. Just look at their respective flagship titles (Sonic and Mario). Mario has so much more depth than Sonic it's not even funny. Most of Sonic can be summarised as holding down a lot, then fighting an insultingly easy boss. You can do the tedious Chaos Emerald quest if you want, but we all know it's a cynical attempt to tack on some depth to a very linear and repetitive game.

And look how they handled the transition to 3D. One a complete disaster, the other a paradigm shift in platform gaming.

And Sega strawberry floated up the F Zero franchise.

consolegaming wrote:

glowy69 wrote:

TheTurnipKing wrote:

There will never be another SEGA. While their reign as a first-party has long ended, and the name hardly carries the cachet it once had, the industry owes deep debt to the former giant. An innovator and an unrivaled creative powerhouse, they were perhaps the greatest single developer in gaming history.

**** off. A good 70% of their "glorious history" is fondly looked back on, but objectively uttery tripe.

"Wise fwom your gwave", indeed.

So very wrong, didnt Sega pioneer both 3d racers and fighters? As well as numerous hardware accessories (VMU, analogue pad) FFS if SEGA hadnt have been here the world would have been a much duller and darker place.

Sega brought a lot of joy to the games industry through the arcade and on the home consoles. I wish they were bought out or pumped full of money and could give us the games we really crave rather than having to bring out crappy games plus crappy sonic games every few years. Shenmue 3 is not feasible anymore, but surely they could bring out a limited run of comics or anything detailing how the story finishes. Its far too late to resurrect it now, they would have to rebrand the whole franchise and try to make it appeal to the mass market.

Indeed? The invention of a memory card with a screen is an absolutely pivotal invention which is still in use today.

Oh, wait. No it's not. Because it was strawberry floating stupid :/

And most of your other comments are plain wrong. (Off the top of my head, Hard Drivin' by Atari significantly predates any of Sega's 3D racing games. Analogue controls were actually pretty common in the arcade market too, not to mention analogue joysticks being widely common for PC sim games, too

I'm not sure about the 3D fighting game claim, but it's seriously arguably whether "being 3D" actually offers any significant advantage in the one on one fighter genre.

In conclusion: SEGA - you suck.

TheTurnipKing wrote:

consolegaming wrote:

glowy69 wrote:

TheTurnipKing wrote:

There will never be another SEGA. While their reign as a first-party has long ended, and the name hardly carries the cachet it once had, the industry owes deep debt to the former giant. An innovator and an unrivaled creative powerhouse, they were perhaps the greatest single developer in gaming history.

**** off. A good 70% of their "glorious history" is fondly looked back on, but objectively uttery tripe.

"Wise fwom your gwave", indeed.

So very wrong, didnt Sega pioneer both 3d racers and fighters? As well as numerous hardware accessories (VMU, analogue pad) FFS if SEGA hadnt have been here the world would have been a much duller and darker place.

Sega brought a lot of joy to the games industry through the arcade and on the home consoles. I wish they were bought out or pumped full of money and could give us the games we really crave rather than having to bring out crappy games plus crappy sonic games every few years. Shenmue 3 is not feasible anymore, but surely they could bring out a limited run of comics or anything detailing how the story finishes. Its far too late to resurrect it now, they would have to rebrand the whole franchise and try to make it appeal to the mass market.

Indeed? The invention of a memory card with a screen is an absolutely pivotal invention which is still in use today.

Oh, wait. No it's not. Because it was ******* stupid :/

And most of your other comments are plain wrong. (Off the top of my head, Hard Drivin' by Atari significantly predates any of Sega's 3D racing games. Analogue controls were actually pretty common in the arcade market too, not to mention analogue joysticks being widely common for PC sim games, too

I'm not sure about the 3D fighting game claim, but it's seriously arguably whether "being 3D" actually offers any significant advantage in the one on one fighter genre.

In conclusion: SEGA - you suck.

Sega brought magic to the games industry and the Dreamcast was like having an arcade machine in your home plus loads of bright, brilliant games like Jet Set Radio and Space Channel 5.

How dare you say they suck, I, like many others miss what they brought to gamers, theres that little something that is lacking nowadays and its Sega at their best. With Nintendo also going off and making less hardcore titles I wonder what is left for us gamers who experienced the PS1 to Dreamcast era.

TheTurnipKing wrote:

consolegaming wrote:

glowy69 wrote:

TheTurnipKing wrote:

There will never be another SEGA. While their reign as a first-party has long ended, and the name hardly carries the cachet it once had, the industry owes deep debt to the former giant. An innovator and an unrivaled creative powerhouse, they were perhaps the greatest single developer in gaming history.

**** off. A good 70% of their "glorious history" is fondly looked back on, but objectively uttery tripe.

"Wise fwom your gwave", indeed.

So very wrong, didnt Sega pioneer both 3d racers and fighters? As well as numerous hardware accessories (VMU, analogue pad) FFS if SEGA hadnt have been here the world would have been a much duller and darker place.

Sega brought a lot of joy to the games industry through the arcade and on the home consoles. I wish they were bought out or pumped full of money and could give us the games we really crave rather than having to bring out crappy games plus crappy sonic games every few years. Shenmue 3 is not feasible anymore, but surely they could bring out a limited run of comics or anything detailing how the story finishes. Its far too late to resurrect it now, they would have to rebrand the whole franchise and try to make it appeal to the mass market.

Indeed? The invention of a memory card with a screen is an absolutely pivotal invention which is still in use today.

Oh, wait. No it's not. Because it was strawberry floating stupid :/

And most of your other comments are plain wrong. (Off the top of my head, Hard Drivin' by Atari significantly predates any of Sega's 3D racing games. Analogue controls were actually pretty common in the arcade market too, not to mention analogue joysticks being widely common for PC sim games, too

I'm not sure about the 3D fighting game claim, but it's seriously arguably whether "being 3D" actually offers any significant advantage in the one on one fighter genre.

In conclusion: SEGA - you suck.

Also, the analogue joypad was released by Nintendo a month before Nights Into Dreams appeared in Japan. Sega did not pioneer that at all. Nice bit of revisionist history, though.

They should bring out 3 Shenmue movies with Tony Jaa as Ryo.

consolegaming wrote:

TheTurnipKing wrote:

consolegaming wrote:

glowy69 wrote:

TheTurnipKing wrote:

There will never be another SEGA. While their reign as a first-party has long ended, and the name hardly carries the cachet it once had, the industry owes deep debt to the former giant. An innovator and an unrivaled creative powerhouse, they were perhaps the greatest single developer in gaming history.

**** off. A good 70% of their "glorious history" is fondly looked back on, but objectively uttery tripe.

"Wise fwom your gwave", indeed.

So very wrong, didnt Sega pioneer both 3d racers and fighters? As well as numerous hardware accessories (VMU, analogue pad) FFS if SEGA hadnt have been here the world would have been a much duller and darker place.

Sega brought a lot of joy to the games industry through the arcade and on the home consoles. I wish they were bought out or pumped full of money and could give us the games we really crave rather than having to bring out crappy games plus crappy sonic games every few years. Shenmue 3 is not feasible anymore, but surely they could bring out a limited run of comics or anything detailing how the story finishes. Its far too late to resurrect it now, they would have to rebrand the whole franchise and try to make it appeal to the mass market.

Indeed? The invention of a memory card with a screen is an absolutely pivotal invention which is still in use today.

Oh, wait. No it's not. Because it was ******* stupid :/

And most of your other comments are plain wrong. (Off the top of my head, Hard Drivin' by Atari significantly predates any of Sega's 3D racing games. Analogue controls were actually pretty common in the arcade market too, not to mention analogue joysticks being widely common for PC sim games, too

I'm not sure about the 3D fighting game claim, but it's seriously arguably whether "being 3D" actually offers any significant advantage in the one on one fighter genre.

In conclusion: SEGA - you suck.

Sega brought magic to the games industry and the Dreamcast was like having an arcade machine in your home plus loads of bright, brilliant games like Jet Set Radio and Space Channel 5.

How dare you say they suck, I, like many others miss what they brought to gamers, theres that little something that is lacking nowadays and its Sega at their best. With Nintendo also going off and making less hardcore titles I wonder what is left for us gamers who experienced the PS1 to Dreamcast era.

It was like having an arcade machine in your home AFTER the arcades had reached such a woeful state that everyone stopped going to them.

TheTurnipKing wrote:

consolegaming wrote:

TheTurnipKing wrote:

consolegaming wrote:

glowy69 wrote:

TheTurnipKing wrote:

There will never be another SEGA. While their reign as a first-party has long ended, and the name hardly carries the cachet it once had, the industry owes deep debt to the former giant. An innovator and an unrivaled creative powerhouse, they were perhaps the greatest single developer in gaming history.

**** off. A good 70% of their "glorious history" is fondly looked back on, but objectively uttery tripe.

"Wise fwom your gwave", indeed.

So very wrong, didnt Sega pioneer both 3d racers and fighters? As well as numerous hardware accessories (VMU, analogue pad) FFS if SEGA hadnt have been here the world would have been a much duller and darker place.

Sega brought a lot of joy to the games industry through the arcade and on the home consoles. I wish they were bought out or pumped full of money and could give us the games we really crave rather than having to bring out crappy games plus crappy sonic games every few years. Shenmue 3 is not feasible anymore, but surely they could bring out a limited run of comics or anything detailing how the story finishes. Its far too late to resurrect it now, they would have to rebrand the whole franchise and try to make it appeal to the mass market.

Indeed? The invention of a memory card with a screen is an absolutely pivotal invention which is still in use today.

Oh, wait. No it's not. Because it was ******* stupid :/

And most of your other comments are plain wrong. (Off the top of my head, Hard Drivin' by Atari significantly predates any of Sega's 3D racing games. Analogue controls were actually pretty common in the arcade market too, not to mention analogue joysticks being widely common for PC sim games, too

I'm not sure about the 3D fighting game claim, but it's seriously arguably whether "being 3D" actually offers any significant advantage in the one on one fighter genre.

In conclusion: SEGA - you suck.

Sega brought magic to the games industry and the Dreamcast was like having an arcade machine in your home plus loads of bright, brilliant games like Jet Set Radio and Space Channel 5.

How dare you say they suck, I, like many others miss what they brought to gamers, theres that little something that is lacking nowadays and its Sega at their best. With Nintendo also going off and making less hardcore titles I wonder what is left for us gamers who experienced the PS1 to Dreamcast era.

It was like having an arcade machine in your home AFTER the arcades had reached such a woeful state that everyone stopped going to them.

Well I would not say after. I fondly remember playing Virtua Tennis and F355 Challenge complete with 3 screens in the arcades before buying them both on import.

What I loved most about the games in general was that there were so fresh, bright and exciting and had tons of replay value and it came in the bucketloads. First party release after first party release, when you look back at the three years it really shows how much Sega put into it from a hardware and software perspective. For this alone they should be respected. None of their recent games apart from Super Monkey Ball and Yakuza have captured the spirit of old and they need to go back to it. Shenmue aside they could easily get some rereleases and sequels to Crazy Taxi, Jet Set Radio and Daytona USA!