John Terry trial thread - Banned for 4 games and 220k fine

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PostRe: John Terry trial thread - Not Guilty/FA inquiry next wee
by Tomous » Fri Jul 13, 2012 6:07 pm

God, how bad must the prosecution have been to lose the case with that defence :lol:

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PostRe: John Terry trial thread - Not Guilty/FA inquiry next wee
by Vermin » Fri Jul 13, 2012 6:08 pm

Eighthours wrote:This is the first time I've ever complained to the BBC. :x

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-18827915

In his written judgement, he (the judge) said that after weighing the evidence it was "highly unlikely" that Mr Terry abused Mr Ferdinand in the manner he was accused of.


The actual judgement text:

Weighing all the evidence together, I think it is highly unlikely that Mr
Ferdinand accused Mr Terry on the pitch of calling him a black banana split.


This is one of the most stupid factual errors I have EVER SEEN in an article, and it changes the whole meaning of the paragraph in a massively misleading way. Actual rage.


Yeah that is shockingly bad. Well spotted.

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PostJohn Terry trial thread - Not Guilty/FA inquiry next week
by Eighthours » Fri Jul 13, 2012 7:16 pm

They changed the story. Victory is mine!

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PostRe: John Terry trial thread - Not Guilty/FA inquiry next wee
by jamcc » Fri Jul 13, 2012 8:42 pm

Has anyone @BigJohnTerry? It's a JT spoof account. It's pretty funny. Some of the birds following him actually send him semi-nekkid photos because of his #TitsOutForTerry campaign. :datass: :nod: I wonder if some of them might be so thick that they don't realise it's not actually JT. :lol:

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PostRe: John Terry trial thread - Not Guilty/FA inquiry next wee
by Suffocate Peon » Fri Jul 13, 2012 10:28 pm

I'm not sure why, but I sort of believed Terry's version of it, and I say not sure why because having watched it again, it's clear that the way he says 'yeah' is not with a confused expression, it's like a gloating 'yeah?? well, you're a...' The reason I believed his version was that he came out with it immediately and stuck to it, and it seemed so un-straightforward to be believable. Plus, the way he says strawberry floating knobhead afterwards supports his version of events. Does this make sense? Shouldn't he be offended and taken aback in the footage? But actually it's also easy to watch it again with his version in mind and see it that way. It's the disdain at which he says it, or not disdain, but disappointment. It's weird that he'd end with strawberry floating knobhead after using a stronger insult. I think he's not been found guilty because it's not 100% conclusive, it's not that he's been found innocent and he's been cleared.

Ashely Cole's head obscures the possible moment of confusion on Terry's face.

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PostRe: John Terry trial thread - Not Guilty/FA inquiry next wee
by Minto » Fri Jul 13, 2012 10:43 pm

From Twitter. John Terry's notes from court:

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PostRe: John Terry trial thread - Not Guilty/FA inquiry next wee
by Somebody Else's Problem » Fri Jul 13, 2012 11:40 pm

Minto wrote:From Twitter. John Terry's notes from court:

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I'm surprised at how good his spelling is.

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PostRe: The John Terry trial thread
by <]:^D » Fri Jul 13, 2012 11:42 pm

mcjihge2 wrote:
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mcjihge2 wrote:The tax payer will pay Terrys court costs.


Only 'appropriate' costs, thankfully.


I would imagine that appropriate costs include all of Terrys legal fees - probably a few £100K

This should never have gone to court. Massive waste of public money. The FA cant really contradict this ruling in their investigation. Bringing the game into disrepute? - who was responsible for that? Terry? Ferdinand? The TV cameras?

Maybe Terry should sue the complainant for defamation of character?


Appropriate costs means what it would have cost to get a public defender - he has to pay the extra salary he paid to Carter-Stevenson himself.

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PostRe: The John Terry trial thread - Not Guilty
by Atreyu » Sat Jul 14, 2012 4:11 pm

Eighthours wrote:
degoose wrote:a bit surprised everyone thinks this is a joke, nobody heard terry swear at ferdinand, even ferdinand didnt hear it and wasnt aware until later that something might have been said. Plus also it was found out that basically ferdinand had been having a dig at Terry in the same match. In all honesty there was no decent proof.

By the way i am not a chelsea fan , actually a spurs fan but also i don't know John Terry so really can't judge him like it seems many of you can without ever meeting him.


I think that JT's history is plenty enough for us to judge his worth as a human being.

There was the certain little matter of video evidence. I presume that Atreyu can come on and enlighten us about burden of proof and all that. JT was so obviously guilty - I don't think he's a racist, but he was definitely using racist language in an insulting manner.

The judgment itself is worth a read - link here. The thing turns on a basic principle of English criminal law: that the prosecution must prove its case beyond reasonable doubt. It turns out that there was reasonable doubt as to whether Terry had said those words as part of (i) an insult or (ii) questioning whether Ferdinand thought Terry had insulted him... and in that case the only verdict the magistrate thought he could reach was as acquittal.

It's pretty clear from the judgment that without that element of doubt in the evidence Terry would have been guilty of the offence.

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PostRe: John Terry trial thread - Not Guilty/FA inquiry next wee
by Moggy » Sun Jul 15, 2012 11:21 am

Nice to see Rio calming things down. Although calling (or agreeing with somebody calling) Ashley Cole a choc ice is hilarious. :lol:

And I am sure Rio said it sarcastically, so it's all ok.

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PostRe: John Terry trial thread - Not Guilty/FA inquiry next wee
by Jax » Sun Jul 15, 2012 8:02 pm

Yeah and then the choc ice thing is front page news. :lol: Ridiculous.

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PostRe: John Terry trial thread - Terry charged by FA
by Monkey Man » Fri Jul 27, 2012 6:16 pm

The FA has today charged John Terry.

After seeking advice from an external Independent QC, and having considered the evidence and Magistrates' Court decision in the John Terry case, The FA has today charged the Chelsea player following an alleged incident that occurred during the Queens Park Rangers versus Chelsea fixture at Loftus Road on 23 October 2011.

It is alleged that Terry used abusive and/or insulting words and/or behaviour towards Queens Park Rangers’ Anton Ferdinand, contrary to FA rules.

It is further alleged that this included a reference to the ethnic origin and/or colour and/or race of Anton Ferdinand.

This charge is the result of The FA’s long-standing enquiries into this matter, which were placed on hold pending the outcome of the criminal trial, and relates to rules governing football only.

During this period John Terry remains available to play for England.

Terry has until 3 August 2012 to respond.

The FA will make no further comment during this time.


http://www.thefa.com/TheFA/NewsAndFeatu ... arged.aspx

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PostRe: John Terry trial thread - Terry charged by FA
by Cuttooth » Fri Jul 27, 2012 6:19 pm

Photek wrote:
also really the FA should have had balls in the first place and dished out the same treatment and procedure Suarez got.

But Terry's English.

:simper:

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PostRe: John Terry trial thread - Terry charged by FA
by Moggy » Sat Jul 28, 2012 11:07 am

:lol:

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PostRe: John Terry trial thread - Terry charged by FA
by Photek » Sat Jul 28, 2012 11:17 am

Nice to see the FA have the balls to do this! 8 match ban minimum incoming!

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PostRe: John Terry trial thread - FA verdict expected today
by Monkey Man » Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:27 pm

John Terry has left Wembley for the fourth day of his Football Association disciplinary hearing, with a verdict expected by the end of Thursday.

The Chelsea captain is accused of using "abusive and/or insulting words and/or behaviour" towards QPR defender Anton Ferdinand last October.

He was cleared in court of racially abusing Ferdinand in July.

Terry arrived at Wembley at 09:00 BST on Thursday and left shortly before midday.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/19723020

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PostRe: John Terry trial thread - Banned for 4 games and 220k fi
by Monkey Man » Thu Sep 27, 2012 3:12 pm

John Terry banned and fined by FA over Anton Ferdinand incident

Chelsea captain John Terry has been banned for four matches and fined £220,000 following the incident involving QPR defender Anton Ferdinand.

More to follow.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/19723020

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PostRe: John Terry trial thread - Banned for 4 games and 220k fi
by Dblock » Thu Sep 27, 2012 3:14 pm

Good. That'll teach him....oh wait.

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PostRe: John Terry trial thread - Banned for 4 games and 220k fi
by Mini E » Thu Sep 27, 2012 3:16 pm

Not often I agree with Collymore but:

"12 Barton handbags. 8 Suarez racism 4 Terry racism FA. Inept"

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PostRe: John Terry trial thread - Banned for 4 games and 220k fi
by melatonin » Thu Sep 27, 2012 3:17 pm

Mini E wrote:Not often I agree with Collymore but:

"12 Barton handbags. 8 Suarez racism 4 Terry racism FA. Inept"


Reads like the worst version of The Twelve Days of Christmas.

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